# You don't support the troops?  Well FUCK YOU then.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 27, 2003, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-support-the-troops-well-fuck-you-then/164635 "2003-03-27T22:58:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2003, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-support-the-troops-well-fuck-you-then/164635/61 "2003-03-30T12:57:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by nswgru1 \*  
> \*\*Amen **Debaser**
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> And for all you fucksticks wishing for large US casualties why don’t you fucking do us all a favor and put your shit for brains ass where your big fucking piehole mouth is and help causing some of those massive casualties you wish for.
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> NSWGRU1 \*\*

You got any reasonable thing to say or can I take it this post is indicative of your intelligence level and debating skills?

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2003, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-support-the-troops-well-fuck-you-then/164635/62 "2003-03-30T22:05:11Z")

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Actually, I’m curious how people can justify wishing for casualties in order to prevent future wars but are not willing to suffer casualties to overthrow a dictator like Sadam.

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2003, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-support-the-troops-well-fuck-you-then/164635/63 "2003-03-30T23:53:27Z")

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msmith537, I \*\* was \*\* one of those people.

I took my own advice and spent the last couple of days not watching news and not participating in any Irak related thread. In fact I don’t know right now what is happening in Irak (but if you want me to spoil “Barchester Tower” to you, I’ll be glad to do so).

I am a voracius reader and if I don’t have anything else to do I read till my eyes can’t take it anymore, today was one of those magic days. All day I’ve been reading the above mentioned book, boy I was so happy that I was almost ashamed of myself. I took a break of my reading and started doing my second favourite activity (no it is not sex, that I do so infrequently that I don’t count it as an activity) it is zapping. They were showing once again the images of captured american soldiers. And for the first time I \*\* really \*\* looked at them.

One of the POWS was a black, rather fat woman, and she was terrified. Funny I didn’t notice it the first time I watched the images, at that time all I could think was " it’s her fault, she is the invader". This time it was different.

So today I am not very proud of [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=172222&perpage=20&pagenumber=2) don’t take me wrong I am still against this war or any other unnecessary war, I don’t want anybody to die not an Irakie, not an american, not a civilian and not a soldier.

I am pacifist and I want peace and fuck everyone that can justify the murdering of innocent people. If Bush can get Saddam cleanly he can do so with my blessing, otherwise the price is just to great.

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**Author:** ![jacksen9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce73a5/32.png) [@jacksen9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jacksen9)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2003, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-support-the-troops-well-fuck-you-then/164635/64 "2003-03-31T00:57:53Z")

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Estilicon,  
I apologize for my rude remarks in this thread. Sorry.  
Peace,  
jacksen9

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**Author:** ![Wabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wabbit)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2003, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-support-the-troops-well-fuck-you-then/164635/65 "2003-03-31T01:55:33Z")

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I’ll tell you what–I’ll respect the Republican Guard as soon as I see proof that they’re doing as much as they can to avoid civilian casualties. Oh wait, they’re not. Guess that makes you an idiot **Sterra** and co.

I’m not pro Bush–the guy has got to be one of the most moronic Presidents we’ve had in recent memory–but that doesn’t mean that I think he’s worse than Saddam. Bush is an arrogant, sheltered idiot; Saddam is a psychopath and quite frankly the human race doesn’t deserve either of them. But if I had to chose one of them to lead my country it’d have to be Bush. Who would you choose?

And I have a lot of emphathy for our troops. They’ve been sent in harms way by incompetent civilian leadership and now the only way out for all of us is through Baghdad. They’re the only ones that can get us out of this mess; I just hope they don’t have to pay too stiff a price to do it.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2003, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-support-the-troops-well-fuck-you-then/164635/66 "2003-03-31T17:32:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wabbit \*  
> **But if I had to chose one of them to lead my country it’d have to be Bush. Who would you choose?**

To simply exist in a universe where such a set of alternatives is truly forced upon me would be such a surreal nightmare that I would either slip into a state of cognitive-dissonance-induced catatonia or make a wish and magically transform them both into lavender-scented balloon animals that would float away to some place where we could all be free of them both.

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2003, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dont-support-the-troops-well-fuck-you-then/164635/67 "2003-03-31T18:54:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CrazyCatLady \*  
> It’s just that sometimes it takes a lot of corpses for people to back up and ask, “Are we really sure this is a good idea?” If the back up and reconsider point came, oh say, _before_ we deployed troops, it would be absolutely fabulous by me. Unfortunately, it only seems to come when we’ve had really heavy losses. Life sucks that way sometimes.

I believe in popular terminology this is called “giving up”, “retreating”, or “surrendering”.

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> Oh, and **Debaser** , can you please explain the difference between a Marine and an Iraqi soldie? I have shit for brains and can’t see the difference between two men who have agreed to risk their lives to make sure a country gets run the way they think it ought to be run. Oh, wait, our way is the right way. Never mind.

Obviously if you ignore color and fabric composition most t-shirts are exactly the same, too. “You see what you want to see”, I suppose.

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