# You dumbasses ever heard of "historical re-enactment" or what? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 12, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845 "2010-10-12T01:04:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/141 "2010-10-14T15:09:59Z")
> [@Doughbag](#): > > > [@gonzomax](#): > > > > Prince Harry got lambasted for dressing up like Hitler . Can you figure out why? > > He made a stupid uneducated rebelious statement joke - it was not ment to re-enact, it was meant to shock … and well, it did not go down well at all for him. > … but his choice for wearing a Nazi uniform it was not for re-enactment purposes > > [BBC NEWS | UK | Harry says sorry for Nazi costume](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4170083.stm) > [News, sport, celebrities and gossip | The Sun](http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article101247.ece) His choice of wearing an SS costume was not a very good choice specially for a guy with political aspirations. Can you figure out why? ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/142 "2010-10-14T15:27:32Z")
I’m just popping in to say that all adult costume wearers are emotionally retarded social rejects, no matter their excuse. Renaissance Faire Dorks, furries, war reenactors, Klingons, all of them. Losers. And mostly virgins. ---
**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/143 "2010-10-14T15:29:31Z")
Please stop equating Wiking with Mengele or campguards. The Waffen-ss were first and foremost fighting soldiers. To the people who joined up, at the time, the difference between Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS was more akin to the difference between Army and Marines. They did not join to murder Jews, they joined to fight the communists, for a new united Europe, for adventure. And that is what the vast majority of Waffen-ss soldiers did, fight in the war. No, not all of the waffen-ss were elite fighting men, parts were involved in atrocities, some units were expressly raised for “anti- partisan” duties and filled with dreck, like Dirlewanger. Wiking was a highly regarded fighting division. However, a division is a LOT of people and undoubtedly some bad stuff was done by members of this division. I don’t know the details of what happened with the bakery section, maybe they just got stopped because the Einsatzgruppe needed trucks, maybe they joined in with glee. They were just a small section. As for wanting to re-enact Waffen-ss. If you’re into military stuff, uniforms, guns, the german army of WWII really is the tits. Have you ever seen the stuff? Not only is most of it technically waaaaay superior to what the western allies had, it looks fabulous too. Just take the design of the MP-40… The Waffen-ss uniforms too really look great, especially those camouflage patterns. The American army is just now starting to look like them. These are NOT the stereotype black/brown Nazi uniforms, these are combat uniforms. So yes, ever since I was a kid reading about WWII, I’ve been wanting to lay my hands on some of that cool stuff. And that’s mainly it, finally a chance to wear that gear you wished you could have had when you were a kid. Nothing Neo-Nazi about it and now that I’ve seen enough camouflage dots and steel helmets, I’m happy to do Fallschirmjäger. But to be sure, this side of the re-enactment hobby certainly does also attract characters of a more shady political nature and clubs need to be very careful who they invite into their ranks. Most clubs are. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/144 "2010-10-14T15:38:29Z")
> [@bup](#): > > I’m just popping in to say that all adult costume wearers are emotionally retarded social rejects, no matter their excuse. > > Renaissance Faire Dorks, furries, war reenactors, Klingons, all of them. Losers. And mostly virgins. What about when you play Bedouin Sheik and the Lost Harem Girl with the little missus .. does that count? Well, probably not the virgin part anyway, I’d guess. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/145 "2010-10-14T15:40:01Z")
> [@Latro](#): > > Please stop equating Wiking with Mengele or campguards. He was a medic with the Wiking for a year or two until he was wounded. This was already explained upthread. It’s 100% relevant. > [@](#): > > They did not join to murder Jews, they joined to fight the communists, for a new united Europe, for adventure. Yes, the new, united, Jew and Gypsy-less Europe. The unit was organized ethnically, wasn’t it? And in any case they did massacre Jews. I don’t really care if that was their primary motive or a fringe benefit. The people they murdered are just as dead. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/146 "2010-10-14T16:16:48Z")
> [@bup](#): > > I’m just popping in to say that all adult costume wearers are emotionally retarded social rejects, no matter their excuse. > > Renaissance Faire Dorks, furries, war reenactors, Klingons, all of them. Losers. And mostly virgins. Yeah! Plus, they always get so mad when you \*tell \*them that! ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/147 "2010-10-14T16:26:08Z")
> [@Latro](#): > > As for wanting to re-enact Waffen-ss. > If you’re into military stuff, uniforms, guns, the german army of WWII really is the tits. > Have you ever seen the stuff? Not only is most of it technically waaaaay superior to what the western allies had, it looks fabulous too. Just take the design of the MP-40… > The Waffen-ss uniforms too really look great, especially those camouflage patterns. The American army is just now starting to look like them. These are NOT the stereotype black/brown Nazi uniforms, these are combat uniforms. > So yes, ever since I was a kid reading about WWII, I’ve been wanting to lay my hands on some of that cool stuff. And that’s mainly it, finally a chance to wear that gear you wished you could have had when you were a kid. Nothing Neo-Nazi about it and now that I’ve seen enough camouflage dots and steel helmets, I’m happy to do Fallschirmjäger. I will take your word, but in a million years I will never understand the desire to want to wear this stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/148 "2010-10-14T16:49:49Z")
> [@bup](#): > > I’m just popping in to say that all adult costume wearers are emotionally retarded social rejects, no matter their excuse. > > Renaissance Faire Dorks, furries, war reenactors, Klingons, all of them. Losers. And mostly virgins. I would cut some slack for the females. There’s no cultural sanction against women dressing up in fanciful attire. Bring on the [Slave Leias](http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&biw=1225&bih=700&q=slave+leias)! ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/149 "2010-10-14T17:20:31Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > > [@Doughbag](#): > > > > It’s part of history and people do re-enact - that dude, might made a poor choice in picking a SS Nazi, but lets pretend we have a new blockbuster movie about the Europeen WW2 without any Nazi’s. > > I think this is the first time I’ve seen a strawman wearing a Nazi uniform. > > This might make me unique on the board: I’ve played Josef Mengele onstage, so in a roundabout fashion I do have experience in dressing like a Nazi for no pay. (This was in a high school production of _Playing for Time_ by Arthur Miller. It’s based on a true story but it’s not a historical reenactment by any stretch.) I did my fair share of research for the part. At no time was I left awestruck by his valor or the way he defended Germany and fought for freedom. That’s all bullshit. He was an astonishingly sick and amoral man. Nothing he did had any scientific value - not even in theory. He was the equivalent of a child who kills animals for fun. The difference was that he was a grown man with medical training, and instead of tormenting a few housepets, he had access to an unlimited supply of people who he didn’t recognize as human beings, and had permission to do whatever he wanted with them. He killed thousands of people directly and through neglect (and I’m ignoring the people he sent to the gas chambers because he wasn’t interested in experimenting on them), and did it without a shred of compassion. He was motivated by insane racial theories and callous curiosity - “I wonder what would happen if I sewed a pair of twins together or vivisected this person?” - and that was about it. > > See if you can spot the subtle differences between what me and Rich Iott’s Wiking wannabe friends. Well, what exactly is the difference between you and him? I’ve got no clue, apperantly it is dressing up and at some stage, both of you where wearing a NAZI uniform. However, the main difference is, that you are writing on the dope and the other person get’s quoted [HERE](http://www.examiner.com/us-headlines-in-national/rich-iott-releases-statement-regarding-wiking-nazi-photo-photos-videos) Both of you state the same dislike of the NAZI regime, so what is your point? And, NO, I’ve got no problem with you dressing up as Mengele - and yes, I understand, that you know, that he was a sick fuck. > [@gonzomax](#): > > > [@Doughbag](#): > > > > He made a stupid uneducated rebelious statement joke - it was not ment to re-enact, it was meant to shock … and well, it did not go down well at all for him. > > … but his choice for wearing a Nazi uniform it was not for re-enactment purposes > > > > [BBC NEWS | UK | Harry says sorry for Nazi costume](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4170083.stm) > > [News, sport, celebrities and gossip | The Sun](http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article101247.ece) > > His choice of wearing an SS costume was not a very good choice specially for a guy with political aspirations. Can you figure out why? Yes, sure - BAD CHOICE - but what is your point? Prince Harry dressing up for a private party vs someone dressing up for some stupid re-enactment? One is a stupid kid, who is royal and might wants to go into politics, the other one has weird hobbies, like re-enactment and is a politicians. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/150 "2010-10-14T17:23:15Z")
> [@Doughbag](#): > > One is a stupid kid, who is royal and might want **s** to go into politics, the other one has weird hobbies, like re-enactment and is a politician **s**. Just because this thread is about an “SS costume” doesn’t mean you have to make that the theme of your post. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/151 "2010-10-14T17:25:37Z")
> [@Doughbag](#): > > Well, what exactly is the difference between you and him? I’ve got no clue, apperantly it is dressing up and at some stage, both of you where wearing a NAZI uniform. However, the main difference is, that you are writing on the dope and the other person get’s quoted [HERE](http://www.examiner.com/us-headlines-in-national/rich-iott-releases-statement-regarding-wiking-nazi-photo-photos-videos) > Both of you state the same dislike of the NAZI regime, so what is your point? I think the point is that if it’s just to re-enact a piece of history, they are equal in their moral worth or blame. It does come down to what your are glorifying and what you are condemning. **Marleyt23** clearly was not glorifying Mengele, but it seems open to doubt has to how much Iott was glorifying and not condemning the SS. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/152 "2010-10-14T21:43:59Z")
> [@Latro](#): > > Probably not. > **villa** just has a poor grasp on things. > > Yet is proud to sit in judgment Fuck off you apologist asshole. I’ll sit in judgment on the SS, and on those who seek to whitewash their crimes. The people who do that and the people who deny the Holocaust and the people who are outright Neo-Nazis have an alarmingly high crossover rate. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/153 "2010-10-14T21:56:13Z")
> [@Latro](#): > > Please stop equating Wiking with Mengele or campguards. > The Waffen-ss were first and foremost fighting soldiers. > To the people who joined up, at the time, the difference between Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS was more akin to the difference between Army and Marines. > They did not join to murder Jews, they joined to fight the communists, for a new united Europe, for adventure. > And that is what the vast majority of Waffen-ss soldiers did, fight in the war. The SS were a criminal organization. Its volunteer members were criminal. That’s the judgment of a court of law. Though I have strange suspicions you have issues with the jurisdiction of that court, and find its rulings unacceptable. > [@Latro](#): > > No, not all of the waffen-ss were elite fighting men, parts were involved in atrocities, some units were expressly raised for “anti- partisan” duties and filled with dreck, like Dirlewanger. But all the volunteer SS men were criminals. Again, not my determination - a legal one. > [@Latro](#): > > Wiking was a highly regarded fighting division. Indeed it was. As were many German units. Odd that the other non-criminal highly regarded fighting divisions don’t get the same interest from re-enactors, and Neo-Nazis wannabes fapping in their mothers’ basements over pictures of human skin lampshades. > [@Latro](#): > > However, a division is a LOT of people and undoubtedly some bad stuff was done by members of this division. I don’t know the details of what happened with the bakery section, maybe they just got stopped because the Einsatzgruppe needed trucks, maybe they joined in with glee. They were just a small section. The entire organization was declared criminal. And Wiking in particular was made up of those from countries invaded by the Nazis, who had every reason to hate the Nazis, but whose racial superiority and desire to kill seemed to outweigh any qualms about committing treason. > [@Latro](#): > > As for wanting to re-enact Waffen-ss. > If you’re into military stuff, uniforms, guns, the german army of WWII really is the tits. > Have you ever seen the stuff? Not only is most of it technically waaaaay superior to what the western allies had, it looks fabulous too. Just take the design of the MP-40… > The Waffen-ss uniforms too really look great, especially those camouflage patterns. The American army is just now starting to look like them. These are NOT the stereotype black/brown Nazi uniforms, these are combat uniforms. > So yes, ever since I was a kid reading about WWII, I’ve been wanting to lay my hands on some of that cool stuff. And that’s mainly it, finally a chance to wear that gear you wished you could have had when you were a kid. Nothing Neo-Nazi about it and now that I’ve seen enough camouflage dots and steel helmets, I’m happy to do Fallschirmjäger. > But to be sure, this side of the re-enactment hobby certainly does also attract characters of a more shady political nature and clubs need to be very careful who they invite into their ranks. > Most clubs are. The German armed forces had some equipment better than the western allies, and some that wasn’t. The utter worship of anything Nazi produced is simply foolish. I’ve heard multiple times how wonderful the Tiger and King Tiger were - but they were incapable of being mass produced, and required so many bespoke parts that it was incredibly difficult to cannibalize them if any part went wrong. Therefore they couldn’t be kept running sufficiently. No one is claiming that loving the MP-40 is suspect in any way. I’m a huge Luger fan & have a kick ass pair of German artillery binoculars my Grandfather liberated. But not every unit carrying MP-40’s was criminal. Wiking was. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/154 "2010-10-15T01:48:32Z")
> [@Latro](#): > > No, not all of the waffen-ss were elite fighting men, parts were involved in atrocities, some units were expressly raised for “anti- partisan” duties and filled with dreck, like Dirlewanger. > > Wiking was a highly regarded fighting division. > However, a division is a LOT of people and undoubtedly some bad stuff was done by members of this division. The problem is the elite SS divisions committed a lot of major atrocities. No, not every member of the elite divisions committed a war crime, but a quick breakdown of some of them: 1st SS Panzer Division Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler - Wormhoudt May 27/28, 1940, 100 British POWs murdered with hand grenades and machine guns - Malmedy massacre, December 1944, 72 American POWs murdered. 2nd SS Panzer Division Das Reich - Tulle, Central France, June 8, 1944, 97 French civilians hung in retaliation for partisan attacks - Oradour-sur-Glane, June 10, 1944 Village razed and 190 men, 247 women, and 205 children shot or burned alive in retaliation for the kidnapping of an SS Major by French partisans 3rd SS Panzer Division Totenkopf - May 26,1940 - Le Paradis, 97 prisoners from the Royal Norfolk Regiment machine gunned - Various atrocities against Jews and others during the Polish campaign. Totenkopf (Death’s Head) actually _was_ raised from concentration camp guards 5th SS Panzer Division Wiking - already mentioned in this thread 12 SS Panzer Division Hitlerjugend - April 2, 1944 - Ascq, 86 French civilians murdered in retaliation for sabotage to a rail line. - June/July 1944 -Normandy, in 31 different incidents 134 Canadians, 3 British and 1 American prisoners are murdered The only SS Panzer Divisions not on this list are 9th Hohenstaufen and 10th Frundsberg. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/155 "2010-10-15T02:01:48Z")
Come on **Dissonance** - those actions were all to protect their families from Communism. You see, Communism is Jewish, so the actions against the Jews are obvious. The French partisans (even the non-communist ones) were communist, so that’s part of the same fight. The British and Americans are run by the Jews, who as we have already determined are the source of communism, so I think that covers everything… Why do you have to besmirch the memories of the SS men, who were, after all, on leave when these “atrocities” didn’t happen to people who deserved them anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/156 "2010-10-15T02:14:35Z")
Iott’s reenactor website characterizes these SS criminals as “Valient”. Iott says on CNN that he refuses to judge them. The website says that they are not supporting Nazism, but it doesn’t detail the war crimes committed by the wiking: it sticks to the sorts of contortions presented by **Latro**. Whatever Iott was playing at, it wasn’t history. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/157 "2010-10-15T07:38:20Z")
> [@bup](#): > > I’m just popping in to say that all adult costume wearers are emotionally retarded social rejects, no matter their excuse. > > Renaissance Faire Dorks, furries, war reenactors, Klingons, all of them. Losers. And mostly virgins. Obvious Troll is obvious.:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/158 "2010-10-15T07:47:33Z")
There’s a huge difference in a gown and tiara playing princess and claiming that the SS were defending their homeland. Is it not true that Germany invaded Poland, and Sudetenland to reclaim them for the thrd Reich, or is the history i’ve history i’ve been reading seriously wrong? Defending their homeland; defending it from what, exactly, other people living in Europe? Scary Belgium, insane Luxembourg and terrifying Holland? ---
**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/159 "2010-10-15T08:19:25Z")
> [@villa](#): > > The SS were a criminal organization. Its volunteer members were criminal. That’s the judgment of a court of law. Though I have strange suspicions you have issues with the jurisdiction of that court, and find its rulings unacceptable. > > But all the volunteer SS men were criminals. Again, not my determination - a legal one. > > Indeed it was. As were many German units. Odd that the other non-criminal highly regarded fighting divisions don’t get the same interest from re-enactors, and Neo-Nazis wannabes fapping in their mothers’ basements over pictures of human skin lampshades… > > etc etc… Listen, you little snot. You are loudly spouting an “opinion” on a subject you know nothing about. Your remarks clearly show that you’re grasp on WWII is that of a 3rd grader. Yet you blithely pass judgement. I am not “whitewashing” anything, I’m challeging you childish view that anyone in an ss-uniform was either a campguard or a Mengele. Maybe you should start reading up on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845/160 "2010-10-15T09:43:55Z")
So, **Latro** , where should we start “reading up”? Which books? Which websites? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-dumbasses-ever-heard-of-historical-re-enactment-or-what/556845.md?page=9)