# You favorite Net Kook?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 19, 2006, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300 "2006-09-19T18:08:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/1 "2006-09-19T18:08:52Z")

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[The original post was apparently lost in the shutdown, so I’ll try again]

What kind of online looneys have you been personally associated with? Anything  
from rabid self-proclaimed scientific experts to inveterate trolls who keep going on  
and on like the Energizer Bunny, to online stalkers and other weirdos of various  
sorts. Here’s two to get started, both from Usenet tho I hardly hang around  
there anymore:

Koos Nolst Trenite. He was once a member of Scientology, but apparently went  
off the deep end at some point (through their fault or something else), and turned  
into one of those crazed Internet activists, campaigning against any and all things  
Scientologistic, with special emphasis on L. Ron Hubbard, whom he often compared  
to the Devil (with the Devil coming out of it looking good in comparison). Usually  
would post very long-winded messages on Usenet, cross-posted to dozens of  
groups at once. I saw a post last night over at rec.arts.sf.written which appeared  
to be one of his sock puppets (exact same kinds of rantings), so looks like he (or  
one of his disciples) is still at it.

“Roger L. Maynard” (plus various pseudonyms, all with “RLM” as the initials).  
Unrepentant troll in rec.sport.baseball, ranting against anything remotely smacking  
of sabermetrics (Bill James et al.). Been at it for almost 16 years now, and he  
still manages to get more than his quota of fish in his net-people either too  
ignorant or too stupid to refrain from trying to debate him. Current moniker over  
there is “Realto Margarino”…

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/2 "2006-09-19T18:16:08Z")

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[Kurt Stocklmeir](http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=author%3Astocklmeir+group%3A*kibology&safe=off&qt_s=Search), devout naïf physicist of alt.religion.kibology.

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**Author:** ![Papermache\_Prince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f05b48/32.png) [@Papermache\_Prince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Papermache_Prince)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/3 "2006-09-19T18:26:16Z")

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[Ed “Man as Old as Coal” Conrad](http://www.edconrad.com/)Physical evidence currently exists that proves man inhabited the earth while coal was being formed, shaking the very foundations of who we really are and how we really got here. An assortment of human bones and soft organs, transformed to rock-like hardness, has been discovered between anthracite veins in Pennsylvania. Since one of the golden rules of geology is that coal was formed during the Carboniferous – a minimum of 280 million years ago – it means that man has existed multi-millions of years before the … insectivore from whom the evolutionists claim we eventually evolved. However, the scientific establishment has wielded its powerful disdainful influence – deceit, dishonesty, collusion and conspiracy – to prevent evidence of the most important discovery of the 20th century to be documented as fact and, therefore, keep us from learning a monumental truth about ourselves."  
– Ed Conrad’s statement when he first joined the Internet in March 1996Note how Ed refers to himself in the third person.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/4 "2006-09-19T18:35:30Z")

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Steve Lightfoot

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/5 "2006-09-19T21:42:34Z")

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Jack Dean Tyler.

Yes, I’m still keeping his memory alive, truncated though it may be.

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**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/6 "2006-09-19T23:39:03Z")

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I’ve been a fan of [Winston Wu](http://www.geocities.com/wwu777us/My_Rise_to_Christianity_and_Transcendence_From_It.htm) ever since he graced our boards for about two days before being banned.

Bobby Lee and his [fun-filled guide to the ten commandments](http://tencommandments.org/) used to give me a chuckle with all the ranting about atheism and homosexuality until he stopped updating it for some reason. Maybe he tragically choked to death on Nathan Lane’s semen at a Marxist cell meeting or something.

I don’t visit [Ann Coulter’s house of horrors](http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi) much anymore. Is it me or do all her columns sound the same now? Maybe the webmasters started using the Coultermatic Column Generator[sup]TM[/sup] to cover up the fact of her tragically choking to death on Al Franken’s–errr, maybe not.

Can’t let this thread go without mentioning [Phred and his merry band of closet cases](http://www.godhatesfags.com/). Seriously, could they be any gayer? Don’t arrest them, for Christ’s sake. Just put them on a flatbed truck, drive down to New Orleans, and watch them sweep the Mardis Gras float contests.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/7 "2006-09-20T00:26:47Z")

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ALEX CHIU and his immortality device. I love that guy. I have more than once thought about buying his rings just for a laugh. But each time I get down to it, I just can’t bring myself to do it.

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**Author:** ![bob\_loblaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@bob\_loblaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_loblaw)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/8 "2006-09-20T02:14:01Z")

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gene ray, the timecube guy. he’s pretty nutters.

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**Author:** ![MrJackboots](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MrJackboots](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrJackboots)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/9 "2006-09-20T02:15:22Z")

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[Arindam Banerjee](http://www.users.bigpond.com/adda1234/index.htm), who among other things, claims that you can move an object without applying any external force to it. He wandered into rec.games.frp.dnd back when I was still reading it actively, and immediately struck me as the Net.Kook of which all others are merely shadows. He’s very nearly _all_ of them - crackpot physicist, racist, religious nut, self-published-author, and general troll all in one.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/10 "2006-09-20T02:19:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas]  
Steve Lightfoot  
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I saw that guy in person once! King was on the lecture circuit, and spoke in San Francisco. During the Q&A section, this dude stood up, clutching a paper bag full of loose leaf paper, and demanded that King admit that he colluded with Jimmy Carter to kill John Lennon.

This was a long time ago, and unfortunetly, I don’t recall what King’s response was, or even if he had one.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/11 "2006-09-20T02:58:02Z")

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There is a poster known as RedDog (and various socks) who inhabits a handful of the binary newsgroups on usenet. He was apparently one of the founders of the alt.binaries.models newsgroup, and at some point in the past he decided he didn’t like the way the group was being run.

For _at least_ three years now, he’s done everything he can to destroy the newsgroup. His primary tactic is to flood the group with off-topic JPEGs, usually of remarkably unattractive women in various states of undress - material that nobody in that newgroup especially wants to see. I’m talking upwards of 10,000 photos _per day, every day_, for the last three years or more. He’s also fond of using a sock to request specific copyrighted series’ of photos from one Web site or another, and then reporting the subsequent copyright violation, should somebody fall for it, to the relevant Web site owner.

This guy is either independently wealthy, retired, or chronically unemployed, seeing as how he has time to flood the group with tens of thousands of photos on a daily basis. Mind you, he’s committing massive copyright infringements himself through his actions, but has enough technical skill to hide his true IP address so that nobody can report _him_. His posts contain so many different spoofed IP addresses, phony e-mail addresses and variant names (frequently using the names of legitimate posters) that it’s literally impossible to killfile him.

The guy clearly has some sort of mental problem. I can’t think of any other explanation for his single-minded, long-term dedication to such asshattery. I can only imagine the astronomical amount of bandwidth is being devoured by his floods propagating across usenet!

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**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/12 "2006-09-20T03:04:38Z")

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[Ken Pangborn](http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/)

OMG, what a complete and utter whacko. Our resident alt.atheism nutbar for many years (and other newsgroups as well.) I managed (through no fault of my own, other than poking him with a stick once to often in a.a.) to get into a protracted, ever weirder e-mail war with him. Fortunately, at a throw away address. I checked the addy a year after and he was STILL e-mailing me. Whatta weirdo!

Also, the guy who’s name I now forget, who was another of our resident nutbars. Claimed to be a born again Christian, the standard “you’re all going to hell…and let me tell you what fun prizes await you there!” kinda guy.

We discovered him posting in alt.sex-strippers. So I adopted quotes from some of his jucier posts for my rotating .sig. My favorite was about foot jobs! He posted, calling me a deranged harpy, which I then took for my own .sig. Which made him nuts. (Deranged harpy, what fun, I loved it!)

Sadly, he left not long after, just when he’d become fun to play with. They always do.

Cheers,  
G

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/13 "2006-09-20T03:12:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Linty Fresh]  
I’ve been a fan of [Winston Wu](http://www.geocities.com/wwu777us/My_Rise_to_Christianity_and_Transcendence_From_It.htm) ever since he graced our boards for about two days before being banned.  
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Yeah I had some dealings with him. Usually he would seem rather sober-minded, but then he would take umbrage at some real or imagined slight and go off the deep end.

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**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/14 "2006-09-20T04:44:58Z")

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[QUOTE=John DiFool]  
[The original post was apparently lost in the shutdown, so I’ll try again]  
Koos Nolst Trenite. He was once a member of Scientology, but apparently went  
off the deep end at some point (through their fault or something else), and turned  
into one of those crazed Internet activists, campaigning against any and all things  
Scientologistic, with special emphasis on L. Ron Hubbard, whom he often compared  
to the Devil (with the Devil coming out of it looking good in comparison). Usually  
would post very long-winded messages on Usenet, cross-posted to dozens of  
groups at once. I saw a post last night over at rec.arts.sf.written which appeared  
to be one of his sock puppets (exact same kinds of rantings), so looks like he (or  
one of his disciples) is still at it.  
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I forgot to say that I have lurked a.r.s. in the past and come across Koos and his rantings. Very amusing, but somewhat sad.

Cheers,  
G

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/15 "2006-09-20T20:32:14Z")

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Nick Kaffes, who posts as [Kansan1225](http://www.masonicinfo.com/kansan1225.htm) to conspiracy-related newsgroups, especially those concerned with Freemasonry, and who is — to put it mildly – **obsessed** with Heidi Klum. I can declare that at least one of the responses his rantings have received was not the product of his fevered imagination, as said response was submitted by me.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/16 "2006-09-20T22:21:18Z")

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I tried to have a discussion with Robert Merlin Evenson, who runs something called [The Church of Ouzo](http://tycho.i8.com/ouzo/index.html) - he’s a genuine dyed-in-the-woll nutcase who thinks he is the messiah, or something. My debate with him was limited to a disagreement on how to parse a response letter he had received from a guy at something called the Spiritual Counterfeits Project (now defunct, I think). The letter says “_What can I say? Your argument is fascinating, tightly-reasoned for sure, but I have to wonder, is it true? And a further question comes to mind, if it is, so what?_”. Robert has deluded himself into thinking this means “Wow! Everything you said is true!”. Barking mad.

Then there was Glenn Laird, who goes under the screen name _novagaea_. His home page is [here](http://www.geocities.com/glennwlaird/novagaea.html). To sum up, his contention is that the earth’s continents all fit together to form a much smaller sphere than our earth, and that (within human history), the moon popped out of the Earth through the pacific ocean, causing the remaining hollow Earth to inflate like a balloon, spreading the continents apart. by dubious pattern-matching processes, he claims that the Earth’s surface _delaminated_ to make this possible and that various surface features (such as coastlines, or mountain ranges, can be found duplicated all over the place, where the layer underneath the mountains slipped out and went somewhere else on the globe, but retained the contours of the mountains it was originally under.

Finally, Duane Ertle; who posted all sorts of ‘Einstein was soooo wrong’ stuff on a creation/evolution message board; claimed he could ‘collapse a gravity field’ but squeezing a lead block with car jacks, but had fundamental problems even understanding the difference between speed and acceleration. Compared himself to Galileo more than once; scored highly on the crackpot index, as I recall.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/17 "2006-09-20T22:23:02Z")

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Oh, I forgot all about the nutters we’ve had here; **Seethruart** and **Justhink** were fun.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/18 "2006-09-20T22:34:27Z")

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For those who weren’t around-

**SeeThruArt** Believed that NASA faked the moonlanding by using pictures of the moon taken through telescopes. The proof of this was the images of an advanced lunar civilization seen next to Armstrong and the other astronauts.

**Justthink** Was constantly talking about suicide booths and the need for suicide booths in society. He was banned under suspicion of being a bot. His posts were generally confusing and nigh incomprehensible.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2006, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/19 "2006-09-20T23:37:37Z")

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> **[Usenet personality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes_Plutonium)**
>
> A Usenet personality was a particular kind of Internet celebrity, being an individual who gained a certain level of notoriety from posting on Usenet, a global network of computer users with a vast array of topics for discussion. The platform is usually anonymous, although users can get celebrity status, usually by being deemed different from other posters in some way.
> Since its inception, Usenet newsgroups have attracted a wide variety of people posting all manner of fact, fiction, theories, opi...

Good lord, nobody remembers Archie-Poo?

Or, what was his name with the Turkey-bot? Sergic Adar?

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-favorite-net-kook/373300/20 "2006-09-21T00:13:52Z")

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Was that the suspected bot which responded angrily to a turkey recipe, mistaking it for an  
anti-Turkey (the country) rant?

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