# You foolish, ignorant girl. You make me feel old. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 9, 2004, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722 "2004-01-09T21:38:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/1 "2004-01-09T21:38:58Z")
The doorbell rings. It is two fresh-faced young people, eager to enlighten me about the exciting candidacy of Lyndon LaRouche, and the Youth Movement devoted to him. Now, I did not know until these fresh-faced folk showed up at my door that Mr. LaRouche was running for president. This fact alone leads me to conclude that his chances of actually being elected are reminiscent of the proverbial snowball’s in hell. (Disclaimer: I knew the name, but nothing about the man. I have since Googled a bit. I wish I’d been able to do so before meeting these young folks, the conversation would have been completely different, running more along the lines of me bursting into hysterical laughter and shutting the door in their faces. As it was, I was operating from an ignorance which led me to give him, and them, the benefit of the doubt.) I engaged in conversation with these kids, willing to give their idealism some attention. But I told them the truth: I will be voting for someone I believe is electable, and even if he were Christ himself, LaRouche wouldn’t be that person. I listened, I praised their commitment and idealism, but I made the mistake of trying to educate them a little bit, since they seemed to be under the impression that if LaRouche could magially find himself in the White House, he could single handedly remake America. Big mistake. Before I knew what happened, the young lady who had been doing all the talking started telling me about all the conspiracies at work in this country, starting with its founding and right up to yesterday, mocking me as someone who “believed Oswald killed Kennedy”. Now, whether or not there is any measure of truth to any such ideas… \* you don’t try to win hearts and minds by telling people the craziest shit you have in your head. \* I tried to tell her this. I kept saying to her, trying to get her attention: “Do you want to be effective?” I kept asking and asking, and she wouldn’t hear me, she just kept going. Finally I was practically yelling at her: “DO YOU WANT TO BE EFFECTIVE, OR DO YOU WANT TO HEAR YOURSELF TALK?” But she was “Telling the truth” - great. If, by telling the truth, you shut down the attention of everyone you are trying to reach, what the fuck have you accomplished, apart fromt eh ego-stroke of basking in your own righteousness, you stupid twit? There’s a REASON that Mormons don’t start The Discussions by explaining tp you that you and your husband will be to gods of your own planet, ya know? They are smart enough to know that you don’t begin with the craziest shit you believe, you work your way up to it. Sigh. It would be more disturbing if these kids were out stumping for someone viable. As it is, having learned something about LL, their belief systems and tactics make sense. I feel old anyway. To have such passion, such belief in your own truth, belief that you really can blow it all up and start over. Those were the days. PS: To my many admirers who will come along and tell me about my own deficiencies in the “Do you wanna be effective” area, which I know you will do because you have before, I will point out what I have pointed out before: there is a huge difference between me venting in the Pit and knocking on doors stumping for candidates and causes. Sometimes I intend to persuade, and sometimes I intend to rant. If I were knocking on doors for a candidate, I wouldn’t be usinig it as an opportunity to rant. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/2 "2004-01-09T21:46:22Z")
The real tragedy of all is, I thought Lyndon LaRouche was dead. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/3 "2004-01-09T21:54:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Chastain86 \* > \*\*The real tragedy of all is, I thought Lyndon LaRouche was dead. 😃 \*\* I thought the real tragedy of it was that he wasn’t dead. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/4 "2004-01-09T22:05:44Z")
I see them from time to time around here. I’ve yet to understand what they hope to gain from campaigning for U.S. President in Montreal. ---
**Author:** ![deb2world](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@deb2world](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deb2world)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/5 "2004-01-09T22:11:52Z")
I thought he was still in prison. Isn’t he still in prison? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/6 "2004-01-09T22:21:20Z")
“You’re all in prison.” Oh, wait, that was Charles Manson. (Big difference…) ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/7 "2004-01-09T22:23:04Z")
I think he runs regularly. Like my toilet. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/8 "2004-01-09T22:45:39Z")
This is something like his 8th or 9th run, I think. And according to my little visitors, there is a conspiracy to illegally keep him from running. Seems to be failing. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/9 "2004-01-09T22:48:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Stoid \* > \*\* It would be more disturbing if these kids were out stumping for someone viable. As it is, having learned something about LL, their belief systems and tactics make sense. \*\* Well, there you have it. You wouldn’t really expect an LL supporter to have mastered the intricacies of rational thought. I’m amazed the guy is still at it. I recall his campaign for the Radical Wingnut Party (or whatever it was) back in 1976. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/10 "2004-01-09T22:59:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \* > \*\*I see them from time to time around here. I’ve yet to understand what they hope to gain from campaigning for U.S. President in Montreal. \*\* What-people seriously do this? ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/11 "2004-01-09T23:09:33Z")
Here’s his web page, btw: [http://larouchein2004.net/](http://larouchein2004.net/) I was a bit surpised not to see it on “Geocities”… You have to admire a candidate interesting enough to have a campaign pamphlet called “Children of Satan II: The Beast-Men”. ---
**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/12 "2004-01-09T23:45:28Z")
There’s often a few LaRouchites harassing passers-by in front of the student union at George Mason University. Why they picked _my_ alma mater to infest is beyond me. Maybe American U gave 'em the boot. ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/13 "2004-01-10T00:10:16Z")
I pretty much just assumed he was running again. glad to see I was right. I’ve never seen so much extreme leftist and extreme right wing paranoia combined in one person before. It’s quite something to behold. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/14 "2004-01-10T00:35:06Z")
Don’t worry. There is a solution. larouchein2008 is so far unclaimed in any of the major domains. We can stop this travesty here and now! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/15 "2004-01-10T00:45:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*What-people seriously do this? \*\* Yep. I flirted with them briefly in the early nineties and even went to a meeting or two, right here in town. Some of their technological goals struck me as laudable, but everything else about them was pure squirrel. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/16 "2004-01-10T01:04:29Z")
But why in _Canada_ if he was running for US president? Did he have followers running for office there? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/17 "2004-01-10T01:10:00Z")
**Revtim** , you’re trying to apply rational thought to Lyndon Larouche…think about that… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![big\_yellow\_kingswood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@big\_yellow\_kingswood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/big_yellow_kingswood)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/18 "2004-01-10T01:32:27Z")
I’ve never heard of this guy before, and I’m quite interested in US politics. I feel I’ve been missing something entertaining. I tried reading [this page](http://larouchein2004.net/pages/biography.htm) and I think I found three sentences that made sense to me. Apart from the fact that grammar is obviously not his strong point, do I just know a lot less economics/history than I think or is he completely full of shit? I also note that his dad was a"internationally known technological consultant to Footwear Manufacturers". Fame was really _something_ in those days. ---
**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/19 "2004-01-10T01:38:25Z")
[/hijack] > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Stoid \* > There’s a REASON that Mormons don’t start The Discussions by explaining tp you that you and your husband will be to gods of your own planet, ya know? Yeah, and a good reason is that we don’t believe that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722/20 "2004-01-10T01:40:05Z")
Is he still accusing the Queen of England of being a drug-trafficing, upright, bipedal, lizard-thingy? Do you think he’d regard the above sentance as being too technical? 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-foolish-ignorant-girl-you-make-me-feel-old/223722.md?page=2)