# You FORGOT the gun was in your purse?!?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [September 19, 2003, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678 "2003-09-19T21:11:15Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@pencilpusher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pencilpusher)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2003, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/1 "2003-09-19T21:11:15Z")
How the HELL do you FORGET your gun is in your purse?
[Stupid bitch with a gun!](http://9news.com/storyfull.aspx?storyid=18863)
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> DENVER – An on-call employee at Denver International Airport was caught Thursday carrying an automatic handgun through security. The gun was confiscated, but the employee is not facing federal or local charges.
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> Helene Nance said it was an accident. She told 9NEWS she forgot the gun in her purse.
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> Nance is an on-call clerical employee in the Human Resources department at Denver International Airport. She has now become her own human resources investigation after getting arrested on Tuesday for bringing a gun to work. She is also married to a Transportation Safety Administration shift manager at DIA.
How stupid can a person get? Someone want to tell me why this bitch can get away without even a slap on the wrist? I can’t even get thru with a fucking fingernail file without getting a cavity check and she only gets the gun confiscated?!?!? Must be nice. :rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2003, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/2 "2003-09-19T22:19:46Z")
Special kind of stupid.
Wow.
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### Author:  [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2003, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/3 "2003-09-19T22:23:23Z")
Now, forgetting that you have a pocket knife when you go to the store is one thing… forgetting a gun when you’re at an AIRPORT is just… well… I hope she had a WHOLE lot of troublesome thoughts on her mind at the time, 'cuz otherwise, that’s just silly.
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### Author:  [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2003, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/4 "2003-09-19T22:39:01Z")
PP,
1. She’s going to be fined, possibly up to 11k.
2. She’ll probably be fired
3. She was coming to work, not attempting to board a plane. There’s a WORLD of difference. Not the least of which, I will dangerously assume, her extensive criminal background check has been completed by competent law enforcement.
4. As the article clearly points out, there was no intent. Without intent, criminal punishment is difficult at best.
5. You trade your 4th amendment rights for the privlege of turning a 9 hour drive into a 3 hour flight. This is the reality.
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### Author:  [@CaptBushido](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptBushido)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2003, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/5 "2003-09-19T23:01:07Z")
In all fairness, if you have a concealed carry license for several years, it really might just slip your mind.
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### Author:  [@unclviny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unclviny)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2003, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/6 "2003-09-19T23:21:10Z")
I have a concealed carry permit and I carry regularly, “forgetting” you are carrying a gun is impossible (or at the least astoundingly stupid), this ignint bitch deserves what she gets and more, she gives the rest of us (armed citizens) a bad name.
unclviny
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### Author:  [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2003, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/7 "2003-09-20T00:52:19Z")
Didn’t remember that she had a .38 semi-auto in her purse? I think it’s safe to say that just before the gun was placed in her handbag, someone first shot the dots off of her dice.
Idiot!
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### Author:  [@Not\_In\_Anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_In_Anger)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2003, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/8 "2003-09-20T00:59:55Z")
A meek Canadian post. Please don’t shoot me!
When I approach an airport, praying to Jesus for my soul to keep, I obsess over whether my pack of gum is in the right place with my lighter and cigars. I don’t want to hold up the line, let alone be beeped while going through the metal detector.
I worry about the fly on my jeans and the buttons on my parka. A gun, WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?
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### Author:  [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/9 "2003-09-20T01:08:00Z")
A lawyer once left a handgun under the passenger seat of my car.
As I parked my car next to a federal courthouse having a militia trial, reaching for some papers, I saw it under the seat. Doubletake. Then, I realized I had forgotten something and drove home.
Yes, a lawyer. Yes, a handgun. Yes, it was loaded. No, he never mentioned he was putting it there. No, I did not know he ever brought it in my car, or that he owned one. Egads. They had SNIPERS on on the roof of the courthouse.
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### Author:  [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2003, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/10 "2003-09-20T01:10:10Z")
Weird, I stutter when I type. That’s the second time this week.
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### Author:  [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2003, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/11 "2003-09-20T01:34:16Z")
For comparative purposes only, a stewardess in KC was fined $500 recently because she brought an apple onto the plane.
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### Author:  [@Booker57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Booker57)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2003, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/12 "2003-09-20T02:10:37Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Enderw24 \*
> \*\*For comparative purposes only, a stewardess in KC was fined $500 recently because she brought an apple onto the plane. \*\*
i-pod or Mac?
Powerbook maybe?
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### Author:  [@SanibelMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanibelMan)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2003, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/13 "2003-09-20T02:56:56Z")
A fine for an apple? What, were dwarves involved?
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### Author:  [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2003, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/14 "2003-09-20T03:12:57Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Not In Anger \*
> \*\*When I approach an airport, praying to Jesus for my soul to keep, I obsess over whether my pack of gum is in the right place with my lighter and cigars. I don’t want to hold up the line, let alone be beeped while going through the metal detector.
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> I worry about the fly on my jeans and the buttons on my parka. A gun, WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT? \*\*
Yeah, but you’re forgetting the important cue **buttonjockey308** mentioned that you have and this person did not – getting on an aircraft. She was just going to work. In the weeks after 9-11, I from time to time forgot to check my gun in with personnel (weapons are banned by my employer).
Something similar to the OP happened to my mom. She was going to the airport to give her husband his gun, which he had forgotten. A little mixup as to where to meet occurred and sure enough, mom runs her purse though the x-ray with the damn gun in it.
Fortunately, this occurred during a happier (pre-9-11) time, so her husband showed up, the gun was handed over and everyone lived happily ever after.
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### Author:  [@SweetLucy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SweetLucy)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2003, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/15 "2003-09-20T03:14:01Z")
She’s probably getting off easy because hubby is high up on the totem pole in the airport security world :rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/16 "2003-09-20T04:13:57Z")
An apple?
Um, I know that this is the Pit, but, **Enderw24** I’m gonna have to say it.
Cite?!?!
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### Author:  [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2003, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/17 "2003-09-20T04:23:25Z")
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> \*Originally posted by TeaElle \*
> \*\*An apple?
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> Um, I know that this is the Pit, but, **Enderw24** I’m gonna have to say it.
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> Cite?!?! \*\*
No prob.
[http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/6787490.htm](http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/6787490.htm)
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### Author:  [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2003, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/18 "2003-09-20T04:26:52Z")
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> \*Originally posted by CaptBushido \*
> \*\*In all fairness, if you have a concealed carry license for several years, it really might just slip your mind. \*\*
Wow. Just wow. If you DON’T KNOW that you have a gun on you, you have a severe case of the stupids, and therefore have absolutely NO business carrying a concealed weapon. At all.
This broad should get fired, lose her security clearance (if she had one), and have her CCW permit revoked ASAP. Period.
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### Author:  [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2003, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/19 "2003-09-20T04:28:00Z")
And as usual, the above post was me. Talk about a case of the stupids. :rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2003, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-forgot-the-gun-was-in-your-purse/202678/20 "2003-09-20T06:32:14Z")
Well, I have been known to end up in a building where I was really not suppiosed to be armed. Happens rarely because most places I go, being armed is OK and so, although I never forget I’m armed, I sometinmes forget where I’m not supposed to be.
That said, when I see metal dectors or folks with wands, I like to think I would make the connection very easily and quickly and do an about face. Never had to so far.
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