# You fucking, crazy, lying, piece of shit, brother **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 30, 2008, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-crazy-lying-piece-of-shit-brother/458211 "2008-07-30T06:03:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2008, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-crazy-lying-piece-of-shit-brother/458211/21 "2008-08-01T05:22:01Z")
[QUOTE=katpohl] First let me say my heart goes out to your family ,it’s damn near humanly impossible to deal with a person is bipolar and won’t get help . My son is bipolar, now he is in weekly counseling and takes his meds like he should , but, reading this thread and the linked thread was almost like reading the way our families life was before the counseling and meds. [/quote] I’m so sorry to hear about what you went through. > [@](#): > > She will have to just lock her door and shut the curtains and let the police haul him in . > If he was to be hauled into jail and no one was to bail him out he would be put > into the hospital by court order for a 10 day evaluation . > Thats what it took for my son .He was ‘homeless’ about > 2 weeks when he tried pulling some of his shit in a convenience store > the clerk called the cops and whammo Jace was dealing with people that > wouldn’t be duped by his BS. That started him on the road to his getting the help he needed. > If you can get your mother away from him for a month and really put him out on the streets, he will screw up and he will be hauled in and then the family can > start to ‘pull some strings’ to get him the help he needs. It wonderful that it worked out for your son. Mental issues are not easy, and it sounds like you went through hell before your son get his act together. That’s really good, though that he got on medication and is staying with his program. Unfortunately, my mother won’t do this. She was giving him $350 a month, so although he “lived on the streets,” he wasn’t desperately homeless, which he would have need to have been in order to make the fundamental changes that your son was able to. He supported not only one car, but an Audi as well. As we kept telling my mom, as long as she was giving him money, he had no need to make tough choices, and daydreaming in the park is the easy way out. After she gave him the $7,000 she did stop giving him the monthly allowance. He was in jail for a while, and didn’t mind it at all. In fact, he was offered a deal to plead guilty to a lesser crime and get out immediately, and he wouldn’t take it at first. Three squares a day. Finally, his cellmates made enough fun of him that he took it and got out. Jail doesn’t bother him. Prison may, though, but he’s avoided that so far. > [@](#): > > It’s a tough heart breaking situation until he levels out with the meds but well worth it in the long run. The biggest hurdle is ,he’s over 18 > and no one except himself or a judge can commit him that first time . But if he commits himself he can walk out anytime he gets the notion to. He’s been in several times over the years, but doesn’t like it. He prefers the streets, albeit when my mother was helping out. He’s taken medication, but only when he really hits bottom. It “takes the edge off,” as he says, which probably means reducing the highs. With the current situation, his friend will actually pay him back, bit by bit, which will probably allow him to stay on the streets for quite a while yet. At this stage, I don’t care anymore, I just wish he would stay away from my mother, or that my mother will discover her long-lost spine, and put limits on him. She did say that she’s not going to bail him out now. > [@](#): > > Where your brother says he can build an airplane engine, > My son swore he was going to be president of the good ole usa before his 30th b-day Obviously didn’t do his research, or he would have realized it would at least take it until after his 35th birthday. 😉 Again, I’m glad that it’s worked out well for your son, you and your family. My mom won’t take the tough steps and won’t talk to my sister or me about it, so I don’t know if there’s anything more to do. Attempting to get my mom to look at reality wasn’t helping and only making her feel more pressure, so we pretend that the elephant isn’t there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-crazy-lying-piece-of-shit-brother/458211.md?page=1)