# You fucking rich little TWERP. (Kinda weak rant) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 25, 2004, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304 "2004-03-25T06:37:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/41 "2004-03-25T23:30:25Z")
Lib, perhaps you should take a nap? I frankly am not understanding where you are coming from on this one. caphis, I agree with LeftHand of Dorkness on this one, in that **if** you can find some way to make an equitable deal with this guy, where both of you feel like you got what you wanted, you should go for it. Whether it’s an interest-free loan (get agreement spelled out on paper so there’s no ambiguity), or you trade him with a bunch of home-cooked meals or a painting of his family or something like that, then go for it. I’d also like to point out that you really don’t want to go down the road of “what is really _justifiable_ spending.” Don’t do that. Because as others have mentioned before, you’re never going to please everyone, and your standards of what is acceptable spending and what is wasteful will not be viewed that way by everyone. You can’t win when you start with that. > [@caphis](#): > > I’m saying that careless spending of money **disgusts me** because I can see better ways to help others with the same money. I understand what you mean, but see, it’s not your call to make. It’s not your money this guy is spending on clothes. You don’t get to decide. I’ve been on both sides of this issue. Once I had inherited some money and I spent some of it on new clothes. I had just lost a lot of weight and got clothes that fit me. It was something that I’d promised myself I’d do when I lost that weight. And I got a _lot_ of clothes. It was great. (Not that I got expensive clothes—just different styles of jeans at Sears and Pennys, but still—it was _great._) But some petty, bitter friends of mine didn’t see it that way. I was being “wasteful” with my money. Other people could use that money I was pissing away on clothes for something more _important_, see? So my friends bitched bitched bitched at me for how I was spending my money. I still remember how crappy that felt, for them to do that to me. > [@](#): > > Sure, I binge every now and then and see an $8 movie or I may have nice things. But I work my ass off. And if I had such money to blow on shit (are you saying that $12,000 for an outfit is justifiable?), I personally would choke at the thought of someone spending that much on clothes, but it’s **not my call to make, and it isn’t your call either.** Please don’t fall into that trap. It’s none of your business. Don’t be petty. You cannot control how this guy spends money and how he spends money has _NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU._ > [@](#): > > I wouldn’t be buying anymore “luxury” items than I have now. I’d instead give that $12,000 to 12 people who were actually impoverished and hope it helps them out. That’s great for you. Do that when you make your own money. But don’t second-guess how he should spend _his_. It’s odious. Do you want people to do that to you? Do you want someone hovering over your shoulder, telling you that the $8 movie you “treated” yourself to was not “justified”? Wouldn’t you find that _extremely_ irritating if someone did that to you? Obnoxious? Yeah. That’s because it _is_ obnoxious. So don’t do that. Don’t even _start_ to do that. I almost choked once when my sister talked casually about plunking down $500 for a ring. Just a ring. A piece of jewelery. I could not fathom it. That’s a lot of money to me, and if it were _me_ and I had $500 to piss away, I’d put it towards a new G5 Macintosh computer, or perhaps something for the pottery studio. But a freakin’ _ring?_ How frivolous is _that?_ But then I realized that it was not my call to make, and the ring was important to _her_, and unless I wanted to be a petty bitch (like my friends who bitched about my new wardrobe), I’d never utter one critical word to my sister and I would be happy for her. If you don’t want someone begrudging you your small indulgences (or large ones, as the case may be), if you don’t want someone questioning every penny you spend, don’t do that to someone else. It’s true that this guy is clueless, but time will sort that all out. I don’t think he means badly—he just doesn’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![Brad\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Brad\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brad_the_Impaler)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2004, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/42 "2004-03-25T23:45:18Z")
> [@Abbie Carmichael](#): > > **So then he does what he thinks is a nice gesture and says “I’ll pay your $2200 for you if you want, no questions asked”… I declined. I said “thanks, but no thanks”.** > > Are you nuts? Seriously … are you? > > 2200 bucks is pocket change to him, and could save you lots of misery. He’s your friend, albeit annoying, and you’d probably do the same for him if you were the rich one and he needed the money. > > Why are you insisting on being a martyr? Why would that make him a martyr? I have had people offer to pay $5 for me to register here, but said no, because it isn’t their place to pay for me. I think it shows guts not to take it, or at least a pair of his socks, which could take care of a couple of hundred bucks if you sell 'em. 🙂 (Not that I hold any grudge against anyone who did accept someone’s gift of straight dope. If I had some extra money, I’d gadly sponsor people, I just don’t feel right being on the receiving side. I’m NOT trying to hijack this into that debate. ) ---
**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/43 "2004-03-26T02:57:51Z")
**Why would that make him a martyr? I have had people offer to pay $5 for me to register here, but said no, because it isn’t their place to pay for me. I think it shows guts not to take it, or at least a pair of his socks, which could take care of a couple of hundred bucks if you sell 'em.** It doesn’t give you guts. It just shows you’re not all that bright. (And I don’t mean that in a mean way.) The idea of doing a mitzvah for someone is that it’s not their place to do it for you to begin with. If it was their place to do it, then it’s not a mitzvah. You don’t get brownie points/good karma for doing stuff you’re SUPPOSED to do. It’s the stuff that you go out of your way to do that’s impressive. Why is it people are so willing to take their friends’ time, which can never be replaced, but not their money? They’ll call and dump on a friend for 3 hours about a serious problem they’re dealing with, but they’re too self-righteous to accept financial help from a friend who has more money than they know what to do with? You are going to have very few chances in life where someone is willing to really help you out. When your chance comes and you don’t take it, that’s fine, but you’re no hero. You’re just shooting yourself in the foot. ---
**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/44 "2004-03-26T03:58:09Z")
Lib, lay off the bitch juice. ---
**Author:** ![caphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19adc/32.png) [@caphis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caphis)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/45 "2004-03-26T08:03:22Z")
**Libertarian** , I’ll go ahead and accept your non-response as an apology for your apparently not-well-thought-out attack against my person. An actual apology would’ve been nicer, but there’s only so much pride you can get out of someone, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/46 "2004-03-26T09:01:33Z")
Take the money! ---
**Author:** ![caphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19adc/32.png) [@caphis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caphis)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/47 "2004-03-26T09:13:15Z")
> [@Really Not All That Bright](#): > > Take the money! Probably will! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/48 "2004-03-26T10:39:30Z")
Of course you will. It’s what you coveted all along. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/49 "2004-03-26T11:27:55Z")
This thread should eat some cake and calm the fuck down. ---
**Author:** ![Creative\_Munster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Creative\_Munster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Creative_Munster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/50 "2004-03-26T13:20:07Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > Of course you will. It’s what you coveted all along. Christ, seeing how you are able to read minds, it’s no surprise that you might be in the same financial situation as the OP’s friend. Being able to discern the thoughts of others has to be an enormous advantage in business dealings. ---
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/51 "2004-03-26T13:33:22Z")
> [@caphis](#): > > I wouldn’t be buying anymore “luxury” items than I have now. I’d instead give that $12,000 to 12 people who were actually impoverished and hope it helps them out. RIIIGHT, that is why you have a 12,000 dollar car right? You could easily have bought a 100 dollar junker and gave that other 11,900 dollars to people that didn’t even have 100 dollar junkers. :rolleyes: I hate people like you that assume that people with money are obligated to give it away to “needy” people. You are a true hipocrit caphis, a wanker and a putz. Get off your high horse and admit that Libertarian is right and you are merely envious of somebody else’s fortunes. Fucking Commie ---
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/52 "2004-03-26T13:39:28Z")
> [@Creative\_Munster](#): > > Christ, seeing how you are able to read minds, it’s no surprise that you might be in the same financial situation as the OP’s friend. Being able to discern the thoughts of others has to be an enormous advantage in business dealings. It doesn’t take mind reading to tell when somebody has an axe to grind, and this person obviously covets money, why else would he have so expensive of a car, yet complain about somebody else spending lots of money on something else. (obviously he can’t afford it, and knowing somebody that can, hates him for that luxary) For the record, I MAKE 600 dollars a month, and owe nothing on my car, have no issues with money or other people having it, and don’t feel obligated to recieve money from them, or feel obligated to give to others that are worse off than myself. caphis: That rich bastard spends HIS money on clothes that cost as much as my car, wah, wah, he should give it to people that are needy- (translation: that lucky bastard, he should give me some money, because I am obviously so needy, the nerve of that bastard, spending HIS OWN FUCKING money on stuff FOR HIMFUCKING SELF, when he could easily give it away) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/53 "2004-03-26T13:46:15Z")
**Caphis** , some folks ain’t worth your time. Anyone, for example, who gets outraged over your slights against someone who isn’t outraged themselves, isn’t worth your time. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/54 "2004-03-26T14:33:25Z")
Oh, I’m not outraged against caphis’ slights against his friend. I think caphis is just an idiot that has ignorant ideas about personal wealth and obligation towards those that do not have it. Even as a rather strong liberal, I cringe at these morons concepts of wealth distribution and obligation inherent in spending ones own money on ones own self. (or spending ones own money on ones own kids in this case) Guess what pal, there is nothing wrong with a family spending 12,000 dollars on clothes if they have that kind of money. They are not morally responsible for the drug addicts or lazy fucks who would rather watch TV than work another job or go to school to get a higher paying job. You want more money, marry into it, build up your own fortune or cross your fingers and hope you win a lottery. In my opinion, the only lottery I hope you win is Shirley Jacksons. ---
**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/55 "2004-03-26T14:44:40Z")
> [@Epimetheus](#): > > In my opinion, the only lottery I hope you win is Shirley Jacksons. Ok, so now **Caphis** should be stoned to death? That’s pretty harsh, don’t you think? Instead of continuing to stew and bitch about his friend, he actually opened up a meaningful dialog about the issue and cleared the air, which is more than a lot of people would do. So now there’s all this hostility toward him for trying to be honest with his friend? I don’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/56 "2004-03-26T14:47:35Z")
Not only is that harsh, that’s against the rules – or haven’t you read the sticky at the top of the forum, **Epimetheus**? Daniel ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/57 "2004-03-26T14:54:48Z")
**caphis** , I applaud you for your maturity in handling this situation. You were able to realize that your friend is not malicious, just clueless, and you’ve probably made a positive, lasting impact on his life. I would take what **yosemitebabe** says to heart. She speaks truth and wisdom. We could all judge each other for our purchases. One person’s necessity will always be another person’s luxury. As long as your friend is living within his means and not influencing your spending habits, leave him be. Also be thankful that you have such a financially blessed friend. It may come in handy one day. ---
**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/58 "2004-03-26T14:55:04Z")
**Guess what pal, there is nothing wrong with a family spending 12,000 dollars on clothes** I’m pretty po’ at the moment, being in college and all … However if we are talking about a entire wardrobe worth $12k, I’m not sure that’s all THAT extravagant. I know a lawyer in town who wears suits that cost a grand or two. I bought a dress yesterday, a pair of capri pants and a simple shirt. 100 bucks. For 2 outfits. At an “average” store. If you add up the cost of undies, shoes, and every item of clothing you wear, yes 12k is still a lot but it’s not THAT far out there. If I wanted to chuck all my clothes and start all over from scratch and not have to wear the same thing two days in a row, I’d need about $5k, and I don’t have expensive tastes. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/59 "2004-03-26T14:57:23Z")
Thank God for Value Village! ---
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304/60 "2004-03-26T18:39:30Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Not only is that harsh, that’s against the rules – or haven’t you read the sticky at the top of the forum, **Epimetheus**? > > Daniel Well, you can certainly interpret my statement that way, I wouldn’t say that is how it was intended though. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-fucking-rich-little-twerp-kinda-weak-rant/236304.md?page=4)