# You Have \*Consensual\* Sex With A Wealthy And Powerful Person: How Much To Keep Quiet

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 1, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957 "2018-02-01T16:45:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/41 "2018-02-02T13:52:24Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> _weeps_ Alas, Danny, you’re passing out of the collective consciousness.

I remember when Danny Kaye was a household name. But more than half a century has gone by since then.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/42 "2018-02-02T14:14:56Z")

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I’m trying to figure out where I’d have the bad judgement to sleep with someone who would then pay me to keep quiet. I suppose that given that I would have the first part of bad judgement, I might as well follow up with a check - since the other person is offering. And probably a big one - I’d be quite upset by their and my poor judgment, so I’d act irrationally.

I’m possibly just as likely to request everything in writing and turn it over to the press - asking that my name be redacted. I’d be PISSED and hell hath no fury…

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/43 "2018-02-02T14:19:18Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I remember when Danny Kaye was a household name. But more than half a century has gone by since then.

I get Danny Kaye and Donald O’Connor mixed up in my head. But both were geniuses and its a shame that they are leaving the collective consciousness.

And Angela Lansbury was a looker.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/44 "2018-02-02T14:24:33Z")

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If it’s Nancy Pelosi, $10,000 keeps me quiet.

If it’s Kate Middleton, I’m telling EVERYBODY.

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**Author:** ![jonesj2205](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@jonesj2205](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jonesj2205)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/45 "2018-02-02T14:43:03Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> That’s going to depend. If I had consensual sex with Angela Merkel, I’d be discreet.
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> OTOH if it were [Sophie Trudeau](https://shawetcanada.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/sophie.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=720&h=480&crop=1) or K[ate Middleton](https://s-i.huffpost.com/gen/1119433/images/o-KATE-MIDDLETON-NOT-SEXY-facebook.jpg), I’d never shut up!

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> If it’s Nancy Pelosi, $10,000 keeps me quiet.
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> If it’s Kate Middleton, I’m telling EVERYBODY.

Kate might want to avoid Dopers if she is trying to keep it quiet.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/46 "2018-02-02T15:28:56Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> If it’s Nancy Pelosi, $10,000 keeps me quiet.
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> If it’s Kate Middleton, I’m telling EVERYBODY.

If its Nancy Pelosi, she’s gonna end up Nelson Rockefellered and then everyone will know.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/47 "2018-02-02T16:16:36Z")

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> [@B-Rad](#):
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> I am incensed at the offer and refuse the money. I’m a slut, not some filthy whore.

We know what you are, we’re just negotiating the price.

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**Author:** ![Arrendajo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Arrendajo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrendajo)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/48 "2018-02-03T06:13:15Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Up until the call from the lawyer, my price would have been: $0.00. I go to bed with women I like and don’t want to hurt. So if \*she \*had called me up and told me it’s important to her that word not get around about our encounter, then that would have been good enough for me. If she trusted me enough to go to bed with me, then she can trust me not to tell. Under those circumstances, I won’t tell, and I wouldn’t dream of asking for recompense.
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> Once I get the call, she’s treating me like an adversary, rather than someone she liked and at least momentarily trusted enough to sleep with. Now it’s not a relationship of trust. I’ll see what I can get. And since I’m not personally skilled at negotiation, I find a pro to handle my end of the negotiation. Like **TruCelt** , once things have shifted into this arena, I want as much boodle as my representative can talk them out of.

This sums it up for me nicely.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/49 "2018-02-03T06:24:36Z")

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I’d tell you how much Kate Upton paid me to keep quiet, but that would violate our legally binding agreement.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/50 "2018-02-03T15:09:51Z")

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The list of people I would have sex with is very short, and I’d keep it quiet. Hell, I once cashiered a very famous person and didn’t tell anyone… And they let me keep their change for “not saying anything.”

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**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/51 "2018-02-03T22:12:45Z")

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In reality, it wouldn’t be necessary because I’m a guy and everyone would assume I’m lying anyway.

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**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/52 "2018-02-04T08:08:06Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> The list of people I would have sex with is very short, and I’d keep it quiet. Hell, I once cashiered a very famous person and didn’t tell anyone… And they let me keep their change for “not saying anything.”

You were in the military? 😃

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/53 "2018-02-04T08:32:22Z")

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I don’t care about her offer of a non disclosure agreement. She can tell whoever she likes but I’m not paying her anything.

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**Author:** ![drewder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/54 "2018-02-04T16:21:54Z")

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The real question is in 10 years when Gloria Allred tries to convince you to claim it was Rape how much will it take then?

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/55 "2018-02-05T13:25:59Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> The list of people I would have sex with is very short, and I’d keep it quiet. Hell, I once cashiered a very famous person and didn’t tell anyone… And they let me keep their change for “not saying anything.”

Ah yes, in college I “cashiered” more than my share just to make rent and pay for books.

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**Author:** ![Mops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mops/32/16494_2.png) [@Mops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mops)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/56 "2018-02-05T14:56:47Z")

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One question about the legal position:

If it were me who brought up the topic of hush money to Mrs. Bigshot’s lawyer, I’d clearly have a criminal case for blackmail hanging over me.

What about the opposite case, as outlined in the OP - could Mrs. Bigshot possibly get me into trouble for blackmail, citing an implicit or undocumented, oral threat of exposure? (FWIW, every Mrs. Bigshot would be mortally embarassed if I went public).

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/57 "2018-02-05T21:43:50Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> “Well, I _wasn’t_ planning on telling anyone, but now that you’ve stated you expect me to talk and have also demonstrated that you have this pile of bribe money ready to go, how about you just hand that over now no strings attached or I’m hanging up and calling TMZ.”

> [@Mops](#):
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> One question about the legal position:
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> If it were me who brought up the topic of hush money to Mrs. Bigshot’s lawyer, I’d clearly have a criminal case for blackmail hanging over me.
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> What about the opposite case, as outlined in the OP - could Mrs. Bigshot possibly get me into trouble for blackmail, citing an implicit or undocumented, oral threat of exposure? (FWIW, every Mrs. Bigshot would be mortally embarassed if I went public).

They might have a case, maybe…

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**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/58 "2018-02-06T00:05:37Z")

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Maybe I’m missing something here.

If they were so wealthy and powerful, why wouldn’t they just have you killed if they thought you might talk?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/59 "2018-02-06T01:11:11Z")

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Who I sleep with is none of anybody’s business. I tell the lawyer to fuck off.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-consensual-sex-with-a-wealthy-and-powerful-person-how-much-to-keep-quiet/807957/60 "2018-02-06T10:29:06Z")

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I think I would feel so offended by the offer of payment that’s when I’d tell everybody, including the nearest rabbi.

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