# You have GOT to be Kidding Me **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [November 25, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057 "2018-11-25T15:23:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/1 "2018-11-25T15:23:44Z")
> [@Are you happy that Trump is President?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-happy-that-trump-is-president/825028/36): > > **Warning Issued** > > Warning for being a jerk. > > Your last item on the list has no place in this forum. As a joke, it’s trolling and propagating racist and transphobic imagery. > [@Are you happy that Trump is President?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-happy-that-trump-is-president/825028/21): > > Cut my taxes. > > Accepted Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. > > Unemployment (including minority unemployment) at historic lows. > > Forging a new relationship with North Korea. > > Two awesome SCOTUS appointments (and countless other federal judicial appointments). > > Stopping the madness on Climate Change hysteria. > > Pulled out of the Trans Pacific Partnership. > > Eliminated the Individual Mandate. > > Enacted Right-to-Try legislation. > > Stock market boom. > > Renegotiation of NAFTA to the USA’s benefit. > > Sending troops to the southern border to combat invasion by illegals. > > Giving America a First Lady who doesn’t have a penis. > [@Are you happy that Trump is President?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-you-happy-that-trump-is-president/825028/23): > > Well, admittedly, the last one was a joke. Wow. Transphobic imagery and trolling, huh? Funny how in an IMHO thread, already replete with typically emotionally-charged liberal attacks on the POTUS, conservatives, et al. mod steps in to issue warning for this? Wow, just wow. The only rule I found concerning jokes, in fact, the only place the word “joke” appears in the rules is regarding personal insults. Two rules later, we see accusations of trolling are forbidden. I get called a troll after about half all the posts I’ve ever made on this forum! I submit Mr. Denizen is the one who really deserves a warning for falsely accusing Mr. Mortiss a troll. It’s funny how rules, laws, etc. often get interpreted. A bit solipsistic methinks. :rolleyes: This is the epitome of SDMB censorship. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/2 "2018-11-25T16:02:20Z")
If you get called a troll outside the Pit just report it. As for the post in question, it was definitely out of line. I would have called misogynist since I think it was a jab at Hillary, not Michelle. But it was rather cryptic so who knows? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/3 "2018-11-25T16:05:04Z")
Mods get to use the T word wherever they see trolling occur. ETA: Michelle is the one I’ve heard certain people call a man in a dress, even though I think she is gorgeous. I haven’t heard anyone say Hillary is really a man. Anyone, I think the modding was great in this case. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/4 "2018-11-25T16:17:32Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > MI haven’t heard anyone say Hillary is really a man. I thought the reference to a 1st lady with a penis was for Bill. This is a perfect example of the mindset - overlooking the blatantly obvious in search of an excuse for censorship. Bad mod! ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/5 "2018-11-25T16:20:48Z")
I know that they have two letters in common, but joke and jerk are not the same th7ng. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/6 "2018-11-25T16:22:09Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Mods get to use the T word wherever they see trolling occur. Of course using the troll characterization is a perfect entry to censor the material. It has to actually BE trolling. Not the case here, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/7 "2018-11-25T16:23:38Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > I know that they have two letters in common, but joke and jerk are not the same th7ng. And all conservative truth is defined to be jerkish behavior. This particular “truth” is subjective, and the forum is IMHO. Don’t start another debate here. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/8 "2018-11-25T16:31:16Z")
Cop on. I’m not American or involved in your petty us versus them politics, and even I could see exactly where the origins of that supposed “joke” lay. It wasn’t trolling, it was racist and deserved action to be taken. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/9 "2018-11-25T16:32:40Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > It wasn’t trolling, it was racist and deserved action to be taken. cite? Where do you see racist? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/10 "2018-11-25T16:48:44Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > I thought the reference to a 1st lady with a penis was for Bill. This is a perfect example of the mindset - overlooking the blatantly obvious in search of an excuse for censorship. Bad mod! Emphasis added. “First Lady”. Like I said, it was cryptic. Best not to post cryptic shit and then later complain that no one understands it. Of course, the guy who actually posted it isn’t complaining. Just you. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/11 "2018-11-25T17:09:07Z")
From the guy who made the post in question: > [@Tim R. Mortiss](#): > > That’s fair enough. It was kind of jerkish. My apologies. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/12 "2018-11-25T17:11:29Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Emphasis added. “First Lady”. > > Like I said, it was cryptic. Best not to post cryptic shit and then later complain that no one understands it. Of course, the guy who actually posted it isn’t complaining. Just you. I’m taking you off my ignore list for this thread. You have to be pre-disposed to a hostile response to think like that. Going from first lady with a penis referring to HILLARY vis-a-vis her as POTUS straight to Michelle or transgender ANYTHING is not jumping to conclusions. It is launching into orbit in search of a conclusion for censorship. Read the words. Look at yourselves. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/13 "2018-11-25T17:12:30Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > From the guy who made the post in question: And you know why? Just take a wild-assed guess. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/14 "2018-11-25T17:14:19Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > And you know why? Just take a wild-assed guess. Because he was sincerely apologizing? ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/15 "2018-11-25T17:19:03Z")
Nope, try again. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/16 "2018-11-25T17:20:42Z")
Maybe the alleged troll will chime in. Or ITD will appear to attempting to justify his action. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/17 "2018-11-25T17:21:42Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Because he was sincerely apologizing? You’d really like to believe that, wouldn’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/18 "2018-11-25T17:23:01Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > You’d really like to believe that, wouldn’t you? Yep. You wouldn’t? ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/19 "2018-11-25T17:29:31Z")
I’ll let the primary actors speak for themselves hereafter. My “opinion” is irrelevant. Not being a narcisstic bastard posting to puff my intellectual chest compels me to refrain. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057/20 "2018-11-25T18:00:43Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > … Mr. Denizen … OK :smack: > [@BeenJammin](#): > > I thought the reference to a 1st lady with a penis was for Bill. … Mr. Mortiss didn’t contend this in his apology. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-have-got-to-be-kidding-me/825057.md?page=2)