# You idiots buzzed WHAT in NYC? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 28, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585 "2009-04-28T03:26:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/81 "2009-04-28T20:54:29Z")
Look, man, I’m the first one to wag a finger at America for its sudden decision to decry terrorism because it finally reached these shores- but that doesn’t mean you should be crowing about September 11. That’s just fucked up. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/82 "2009-04-28T20:55:18Z")
Right, this isn’t the original survey, but it will do as a cite for your stupid standards: [http://direct.bl.uk/bld/PlaceOrder.do?UIN=220595181&ETOC=RN&from=searchengine](http://direct.bl.uk/bld/PlaceOrder.do?UIN=220595181&ETOC=RN&from=searchengine) ---
**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/83 "2009-04-28T20:55:42Z")
> [@Angry Lurker](#): > > Where the fuck were you when you were financing the killing of hundreds of my countrymen and a couple of members of my family? Who the fuck are you to suggest that I had any part in that, or supported it in any way? This thread isn’t about that, and no one has suggested that you haven’t been terrorized at some point. This thread is about an activity that just happened in NYC and frightened the folks there. You don’t need to hijack this thread with your woes. > [@](#): > > Was there anything that special about it? Only in the undeniable drama of the event and the magnitude of the people killed on that day by the actions of a small number of folks. You admit the undeniable drama of the event and magnitude of people killed, but refuse to accept that it may have been quite unsettling to a lot of people to see what appears to be the exact same situation unfolding before their very eyes? ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/84 "2009-04-28T20:58:35Z")
> [@Angry Lurker](#): > > Where the fuck were you when you were financing the killing of hundreds of my countrymen and a couple of members of my family? I can’t speak for **atomicbadgerrace** , but I was in the bathroom. Funding international terrorism always gives me the runs. > [@](#): > > Right, this isn’t the original survey, but it will do as a cite for your stupid standards: [http://direct.bl.uk/bld/PlaceOrder.d...m=searchengine](http://direct.bl.uk/bld/PlaceOrder.d...m=searchengine) Nope, that’s an opinion piece. Try again. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/85 "2009-04-28T20:59:56Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Look, man, I’m the first one to wag a finger at America for its sudden decision to decry terrorism because it finally reached these shores- but that doesn’t mean you should be crowing about September 11. That’s just fucked up. I’m not at all doing that, and if that is the impression anyone has got I can only apologise unreservedly. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/86 "2009-04-28T21:01:39Z")
> [@Sauron](#): > > Nope, that’s an opinion piece. Try again. Bite me. I really cannot be bothered. I know I am right. If anyone here really cares they can do the research and thus find it for themselves. ---
**Author:** ![LilShieste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@LilShieste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilShieste)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/87 "2009-04-28T21:02:34Z")
> [@Angry Lurker](#): > > I really cannot be bothered. I know I am right. If anyone here really cares they can do the research and thus find it for themselves. Wow. You’re really not going to like it here. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/88 "2009-04-28T21:02:49Z")
> [@Angry Lurker](#): > > Bite me. > > I really cannot be bothered. I know I am right. If anyone here really cares they can do the research and thus find it for themselves. We have got to introduce you to **Starving Artist**. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/89 "2009-04-28T21:09:50Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **Angry Lurker** : > the country is disintegrating under a tide of political correctness, chavs, crime and a brain drain… > [@](#): > > You are joking, right? I think he was referring to the thousands of US engineers, scientists, and creative people who have resettled in other countries. Heck, that would be at least as fact-based as his other rantings. ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/90 "2009-04-28T21:11:35Z")
> [@Angry Lurker](#): > > I know I am right. I know you are wrong. This is fun! Will you call me a name now, or do we jump straight to hitting each other? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/91 "2009-04-28T21:13:41Z")
I have been lurking since the days of the grapist and that wally (?) who faked his death. I know how the SDMB works. And I know damn well that no reasonable people will think less of me for not wasting hours of my time trying to find a cite that for all I know is not on the internet. The only ones that would lack either a job or a life, and fuck them, it’s not as though they are going anywhere anyway. I know what I saw. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/92 "2009-04-28T21:16:05Z")
> [@Angry Lurker](#): > > Ok **Sauron** , this has to be the easiest cite in the world, [here’s an interesting google](http://www.google.com/search?q=americans+scared+survey&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8) and you’ll find it there somewhere no doubt. I don’t really see much reason to backup what is entirely obvious to practically anyone. I think it is probably linked with your country’s excessively religious nature, but that’s just a guess. America has the best chocolate. Here’s a [google](http://www.google.com/search?q=america+best+chocolate&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a) search of the terms returning nearly 13 million results. I’m sure someone more interweb savvy than myself can find the relevant article, but it’s so immediately obvious, I don’t think it’s worth my time to look into. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/93 "2009-04-28T21:20:12Z")
> [@Angry Lurker](#): > > I have been lurking since the days of the grapist and that wally (?) who faked his death. > > I know how the SDMB works. > > And I know damn well that no reasonable people will think less of me for not wasting hours of my time trying to find a cite that for all I know is not on the internet. The only ones that would lack either a job or a life, and fuck them, it’s not as though they are going anywhere anyway. > > I know what I saw. [Doyle Lonnegan]Not only are you a troll, you’re a gutless troll as well.[/Doyle Lonnegan] ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/94 "2009-04-28T21:26:39Z")
> [@Angry Lurker](#): > > Where the fuck were you when you were financing the killing of hundreds of my countrymen and a couple of members of my family? Please state for the record your particular country, as you have no location field and I can’t be arsed to look it up myself in your past postings. It’s just that the US has funded so many conflicts over so many years that I need to have more specifics before I can tell you my precise space-time coordinates at the time bombs were going off in your neighborhood. You know, if you had come here and said X event in my country caused people in Y city to have flashbacks to the genuine terrorist attacks at Z time I wouldn’t have said jack, because terrorism is, well, _terrifying_ regardless of where and when it happens. On the other hand, you come in here and gibber something about Americans being the most fearful people on earth but yet they shouldn’t be afraid because of something that resembles a real deadly event a mere 8 years ago? No, I don’t have any respect for you. > [@](#): > > Was there anything that special about it? Only in the undeniable drama of the event and the magnitude of the people killed on that day by the actions of a small number of folks. Yes, and for a brief time on Monday it looked like there might be a repeat. As people did calm down by evening and nothing Really Bad happened to anyone we can all just say “false alarm” and get on with our lives. Except, apparently, for people outside of the country who seem to enjoy pissing on Americans for no more reason than they’re Americans (Or New Yorkers. Or just Not As Good As MY People. Whatever) > [@](#): > > But you wanna think about what Madam fucking Albright and her millions of children is an acceptable price quotation. WHAT are you nattering on about? Seriously, if you have _specific_ events in mind about a _specific_ country spit it out - these guessing games are tedious at best. ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/95 "2009-04-28T21:28:28Z")
> [@Angry Lurker](#): > > I have been lurking since the days of the grapist and that wally (?) who faked his death. Congratulations! I’ve been a member here since March of 1999. > [@](#): > > I know what I saw. Perhaps you don’t understand fully how this works. In that case, let me spell it out for you: _ **I** _ don’t know what you saw. You’ve made the claim (somewhat fantastical, in my opinion) that a survey showed Americans to be “the most frightened people on earth.” It’s my belief that a) this survey doesn’t exist, and you were just trying to make a point; or b) that such a survey DOES exist, but it doesn’t show what you remember it showing; or c) that the survey DOES exist, DOES show what you remember, but was done by an obviously biased group. In short (and in case it’s not obvious), I’m either calling you a liar, or mentally deficient, or hopelessly naive. In fact, I’m happy calling you all three, which is what I’ll believe if you continue on this particular path you’ve selected. The only thing you have to do to shoot me down and shut me up is come up with the blindingly obvious survey that you saw very recently. I’ll apologize at that point, if it’s clear the survey is legit. Otherwise, I’ll be forced to point and laugh at you, as I’m doing now. ---
**Author:** ![hopesperson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@hopesperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hopesperson)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/96 "2009-04-28T21:35:42Z")
> [@Angry Lurker](#): > > I’m not at all doing that, and if that is the impression anyone has got I can only apologise unreservedly. If you really don’t want people to get the impression that you’re an asshole, you might do well to stop acting like one. I don’t think the Canadians are going to like you very much at all. ---
**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/97 "2009-04-28T21:38:45Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > America has the best chocolate. Here’s a [google](http://www.google.com/search?q=america+best+chocolate&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a) search of the terms returning nearly 13 million results. I’m sure someone more interweb savvy than myself can find the relevant article, but it’s so immediately obvious, I don’t think it’s worth my time to look into. Aside from Hersey’s, your chocolate sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/98 "2009-04-28T21:46:29Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Why don’t you tell me then? Who is and isn’t armed in NYC? And who among them is armed legally or illegally? New York City so heavily restricts the legal purchase and posession of firearms by the general public as to result in a de facto ban on private, legal, gun posession. That leaves… 1. Police and other law enforcement. 2. Politicians are generally not armed, their bodyguards (often NYPD) generally are. There are some, although relatively few, very high profile people (business executives, celebrities) who also have armed bodyguards. 3. Thugs, gang members, drug dealers, common criminals, organized crime members, and the occasional whack job. Anybody you think I’m missing? (p.s. \*legal \*gun posession isn’t the topic here, not to mention irrelevant in this case, so leave it out.) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/99 "2009-04-28T21:48:31Z")
Right, you annoying wankers with a ludicrous sense of entitlement. Put these in your pipe and smoke them: [http://pewglobal.org/reports/pdf/165.pdf](http://pewglobal.org/reports/pdf/165.pdf) [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-united-states-of-anxiety-survey-reveals-a-jittery-nation-overcome-with-selfdoubt-579358.html](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-united-states-of-anxiety-survey-reveals-a-jittery-nation-overcome-with-selfdoubt-579358.html) I have spent twenty minutes finding these. It would be unfair of me to ask you to donate 20 minutes worth of my salary, but if you would donate 20 minutes worth of your time or equivalent salary to a worthy charity (at this point may I suggest [www.nspcc.org.uk](http://www.nspcc.org.uk) if you’re stuck - there are some horrible cases these guys have to deal with) then I would be most appreciative 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585/100 "2009-04-28T21:50:21Z")
It’s very simple. If you don’t want to take the time to back up your assertions, you don’t have to make them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-idiots-buzzed-what-in-nyc/494585.md?page=6)