# You knew it had to happen...Woman sues over exposure of JJ's boob

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 5, 2004, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732 "2004-02-05T21:43:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/1 "2004-02-05T21:43:25Z")

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Warning…link contains shot of Janet Jackson’s exposed breast.

[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc\_o\_day/doc\_o\_day.html](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.html)

Although I believe it was inappropriate of Justin rip off Janet’s shirt, exposing her breast, nipple brooch and all…I certainly don’t feel entitled to monetary compensation.

Why can’t we get a loser-pays court system?

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/2 "2004-02-05T21:47:43Z")

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I sincerely hope that she is called to the bench, and then promptly bitchslapped out of the courtroom.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/3 "2004-02-05T21:52:10Z")

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> [@jarbabyj](#):
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> I sincerely hope that she is called to the bench, and then promptly bitchslapped out of the courtroom.

Sadly, I bet some dopey jury will hand them some juicy award.

Class action eh? So the lawyers will get 10 million, and we’ll all get a check for 26 cents.

Cool. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/4 "2004-02-05T21:52:30Z")

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What scares me is that there is some graduate of law school who actually decided to take her case!!

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**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/5 "2004-02-05T21:53:15Z")

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I like how the lawsuit is filed on behalf of “all Americans.” Wow, she’s a hero!

I am very interested to see what the physical injuries she claims are.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/6 "2004-02-05T21:54:42Z")

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What scares me is I’m not surprised at all.

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**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/7 "2004-02-05T21:56:06Z")

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Ya know? Even though she’s a crackpot moron, she IS speaking for all Americans (how nice of her :rolleyes: ). Maybe I can get a piece of that settlement. 😃

It’s not likely it will go to court. If it does, it means that this country will have officially lost its collective mind\*–and I’ll move to Canada.

\*Well, okay the judge will have lost his mind.

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**Author:** ![jeevmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@jeevmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeevmon)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/8 "2004-02-05T22:00:05Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> Warning…link contains shot of Janet Jackson’s exposed breast.
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> [The Smoking Gun: Public Documents, Mug Shots](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.html)
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> Although I believe it was inappropriate of Justin rip off Janet’s shirt, exposing her breast, nipple brooch and all…I certainly don’t feel entitled to monetary compensation.
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> Why can’t we get a loser-pays court system?

Because it would discourage those who have potentially meritorious claims from coming forward, particularly those who may have claims against the big and powerful. Think about a toxic tort kind of case. “OK, Mrs. P, you may well have a claim that your child’s extensive birth defects are the result of ChemicalCo pumping toxic sludge into your drinking water supply. But first, there will be extensive court proceedings, and if the judge finds that the birth defects weren’t ChemicalCo’s fault, you will be on the hook for ChemicalCo’s attorneys’ fees. And they’re going to hire the best and most expensive lawyers in the state. I figure you have a 70% chance of winning, and 30% chance of losing, but if you lose, you could be on the hook for $1 million or more.”

“Loser pays” = the rich and powerful get more license to do what they want, when they want, to whomever they want, knowing that the cost of the lawyers they can afford to hire will be a strong disincentive to anyone filing suit.

Most states and the federal courts have a simple motion to dismiss procedure that takes care of claims like this.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/9 "2004-02-05T22:02:44Z")

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I was thinking of suing Janet Jackson to show 'em both.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/10 "2004-02-05T22:05:33Z")

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Can we set up a countersuit to sue her for speaking for us? I’d like to see MORE nipples on t.v., bertha.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/11 "2004-02-05T22:07:04Z")

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Ya know, some of you 'merkins are really wacky.

I’m just sayin…

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**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/12 "2004-02-05T22:10:25Z")

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I would like to thank, on behalf of the peoples of the world outside the USA, Janet Jackson and the general American public for providing a never ending source of amusement this last week.

It’s also been a fascinating glimpse into the morals of the average US citizen. Start a war on a flimsy pretext; no problem. Flash a breast in a feeble publicity scam; it’s either the end of the world or the most exciting event in the history of mankind ever!!!

Now, it’s all been very amusing, but, please, enough. The show has got to end.

And if I see just _one_ more “I’m outraged, I want to see both titties” “joke” I may really lose the plot.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/13 "2004-02-05T22:13:06Z")

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sorry, futile. :o

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/14 "2004-02-05T22:13:55Z")

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I don’t give a fuck if they throw it out, it doesn’t belong there in the first place. Throwing things out costs money and wastes ties up the court.

The genie is out of the bottle though with all this litigation stuff, and it ain’t ever going back in.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/15 "2004-02-05T22:15:56Z")

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Instead of all this foofaraw, could we just have some sort of redress where Janet rips off Justin’s pants on national TV?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/16 "2004-02-05T22:46:01Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> Warning…link contains shot of Janet Jackson’s exposed breast.

**ivy** , dear, you’re [an hour late](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=238268).

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/17 "2004-02-05T22:52:42Z")

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Whoops, I missed that thread as well.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/18 "2004-02-05T23:05:16Z")

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> [@jeevmon](#):
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> Because it would discourage those who have potentially meritorious claims from coming forward, particularly those who may have claims against the big and powerful. Think about a toxic tort kind of case. “OK, Mrs. P, you may well have a claim that your child’s extensive birth defects are the result of ChemicalCo pumping toxic sludge into your drinking water supply. But first, there will be extensive court proceedings, and if the judge finds that the birth defects weren’t ChemicalCo’s fault, you will be on the hook for ChemicalCo’s attorneys’ fees. And they’re going to hire the best and most expensive lawyers in the state. I figure you have a 70% chance of winning, and 30% chance of losing, but if you lose, you could be on the hook for $1 million or more.”
> 
> “Loser pays” = the rich and powerful get more license to do what they want, when they want, to whomever they want, knowing that the cost of the lawyers they can afford to hire will be a strong disincentive to anyone filing suit.
> 
> Most states and the federal courts have a simple motion to dismiss procedure that takes care of claims like this.

Good. I am not afraid of big corporations in the least, there are enough Federal regulations to keep them in check from the really outrageous stuff. I am absolutely sick and disgusted at how much of my cost of living is determined by the money they must spend defending themselves against bullshit like this, passed along to me as increased costs for goods and services.

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**Author:** ![bobinheber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85e7bf/32.png) [@bobinheber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobinheber)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2004, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/19 "2004-02-05T23:30:44Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> What scares me is that there is some graduate of law school who actually decided to take her case!!

Who’s idea do you think it was to file the suit. All class actions suits first include provisions for paying the lawyers.

They’re the only ones that make anything. You think not----look at the Blockbuster Video settlement or the iOmega zip drive settlement. The lawyers get rich and the “public who got injured” get shit!

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**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-knew-it-had-to-happen-woman-sues-over-exposure-of-jjs-boob/227732/20 "2004-02-06T00:12:31Z")

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Out of curiosity, if this is on behalf of the entirety of the US, where in dog’s name are they gonna find an impartial jurry?

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