"You know, that's handicapped parking spot!"

I used something similar to this in my hauling days.

Ah, it’s days like this I regret the coming of the kindler, more gentler BBQ Pit. If only I could truly express my contempt for this person in the terms which fully convey my loathing. Of course, afterwords I would have to apologize to nematodes, tapeworms, and the sludge in the gutter outside my residence for the comparison, but in this case it would be worth such a cost.

Eonwe, I can only assume you came here thinking there would be some sort of agreement with your position, as the alternative - you’re a real, actual masochist - is pretty rare in life.

No. There is not agreement with what you did. All your excuses are just that, excuses, and intended to justify horribly selfish and inconsiderate behavior, not to mention the breaking of law. Be glad my spouse was not present when you did that, as he takes special glee in reporting such violations and watching police hand out tickets to offenders.

You broke the law. You were selfish. You were inconsiderate. You were a jerk*. What you did was not OK. It was not justifiable. If I were a less kind person I’d wish the Karma Hammer to hit you over the head, or at least whack you good with a clue-by-four, but I’m trying to be better than that.

  • Which is about the strongest term I can safely use these days on this board but trust me, if I had written what I was actually thinking I would have needed to have fire extinguisher next to the keyboard in case of it spontaneously bursting into flames while I was flaming your worthless ass.

I actually have to do that as part of my current employment. In addition to the loads being heavy and awkwardly shaped, some of them are things like saws which can also cause you significant injury if mishandled. Nonetheless, I manage to avoid parking in handicapped spots.

Hey, maybe you should hire someone for a couple bucks to help you carry that shit, huh? Hell, maybe ask a friend to help you out for free - or don’t you have any? Get a handtruck and some bungee cords. Boo-fucking-hoo poor snugg’ums has to carry heavy shit - hey, other people manage, why can’t you?

No, you’re a bad person because you seek ways to justify your law-breaking behavior, unlike good people who have the grace to be a little ashamed of minor infractions.

I will agree that my examples were a bit more lopsided, as it’s hard to come up with things that are similarly balanced, particularly since it’s a subjective judgment. I was simply trying to give examples of the same sort of reasoning.

To expand the thought experiment, I think you’d get a lot less crap if you backed up your truck into the spot to unload a 300 lbs safe, were only in it for about a minute just to get it out and on the curb and immediately moved the truck to a legal spot. I also think you’d get a lot more crap if you backed up a trailer full of pillows, and took the spot up for 2 hours while you carried them in one at a time and regularly left it unattended for long periods in a place where handicap spots are in high demand.

Or to go back to my driving on the shoulder example, I don’t think anyone would say anything if someone went into it a couple feet to get around the back end of a car to get into a turn lane. But if someone zoomed down the shoulder past 30-40 cars to take an exit, I think most people would say they’re a jerk.

Apparently, where you draw that line isn’t the same place where society does. And at some point beyond whereve that line is drawn, it will eventually get some kind of action out of anyone. Apparently where that woman draws that line is stricter than where most people do, which is why she came off jerkish.

As I’ve said, personally, I wouldn’t have done it and I understand your reasoning for doing it. But if nothing else, I think this thread demonstrates that where you draw that line isn’t in agreement with where most people do, so it shouldn’t be a huge surprise that people aren’t siding with you for being upset for what, relative to where society draws that line, is a lesser offense. It’s just something to consider next time that sort of thing happens.

Oh, I agree. I just don’t see it as bad enough to warrant a pitting. If she yelled at you for being parked in a 20-minute spot for 22 minutes, I’d say it’s pretty far out of line. I just don’t think it’s to that extreme and worth getting upset about.

I say we take him out back and beat the shit out of him. Who’s with me?

You have a good point; a message solely composed of invective isn’t that helpful, though I suppose you can always take the message at least that, presumably, they didn’t approve of what you did, even if they don’t go into why.

As far as not owing a jerk anything; I can understand that. But I would argue that you owe yourself something, and that might be reconsideration if there’s a chance of you hindering yourself in some manner. If nothing else, should all we hyenas be wrong and you right, then you’re in the right and yet people are annoyed with you. Unless you’re enjoying this, probably there are some lessons to be learnt, even if it isn’t on the main topic. :wink:

OK, but I’m not walking any further than 15 feet to do it.

Maybe not in Vermont where you live, but if you did that here, where I live, yes, as a matter of fact it IS considered a crime. It’s murder or rape level crime, but it is a crime nonetheless.

People are less reluctant to call you an asshole on the internet than they are in real life. Additional news: water is wet.

The law does not allow you to use your personal judgement in this case. Whether or not it harms anyone else directly, society has decided that only handicapped people (or people transporting handicapped people) can park in such spots. Period. End of statement. There are no exceptions.

Here’s another idea - next time you feel a need to be a jerk and use a handicapped parking spot as a loading dock, take an actual handicapped person along with you in the car. You might or might not be a jerk in that case, but at least you’d be technically legal, right? Get a granny or a little disabled kid or someone a ride, get them out of the house, hang their tag off your rear-view mirror, park in the damned blue spot, and have at it. Then when some self-righteous stranger says “hey, that’s a handicapped spot!” you can point to the cripple in the passenger seat.

God, I can’t believe I actually outlined that strategy for someone, in public. >sigh<

I think we should all go drive solo in the car pool lane instead. From what I’ve seen, there’s enough room.

I like it! I like it!

I dare you to do this to someone like the OP while you’re on crutches and while you’ve got your temporary placard in your hand.

Oh please do that!

:::: bounces with excitement::::
::::runs to get more popcorn::::

And then post it on-line and tell us where to find it. I have some people I’d like to share that with. Starting with my disabled SO.

However, in such jurisdictions such caregivers are permitted to use disabled spots ONLY when transporting disabled people. So the ratio is really unaffected, as the only time such tags should be used is when the disabled person is in the vehicle or being picked up, same as if the disabled person was driving him/herself.

Sorry, bad example. There was no such law requiring that the cyclist stay in the bike lane at all times and the cop was wrong. The filmmaker did not know that at the time and could have fought the ticket.

progress!

Awesome. Yeah, a dolly might be a good idea. I’m with all the other people who said “But since you do not require the handicapped space due to an illness or physical limitation, err on the side of courtesy and walk a few more feet” Did some of us bully you into a kinder, gentler corner (yep, that there’s irony) or did you decide you’d rather not let meddling stranger ruin your day again?

The downside of a hand truck is that wouldn’t want one banging around in my trunk with my music gear. But a blanket might solve that problem.

I wish. Sadly I am stuck in editing for the next 3 months while I heal the heel. Once I am mobile though, I’m game.

Upthread the op tried to downplay the thought that someone like me would show up with a camera and make him uncomfortable. The quality of news generated by such action can certainly be debated and is probably worthy of it’s own Pit thread, and I can argue both sides.

But I can guarantee that in my 22 years of experience has told me that under these circumstances, if I caught the OP on tape, and he reacted anything like he has on this thread, it’s pure gold on tv.

Whoa, whoa. Six pages of this shit? I skimmed through what I missed. Sue me.

Child, please. There’s a whole thread over there of people admitting, sure, if it’s convenient and no handicapped people are around.

Every time someone parks in front of a fire hydrant because they’re just gonna drop off a couple of Netflix DVDs, or someone parks in a loading zone while their friend runs upstairs and grabs her coat, or whatever, they’re silently calculating the odds of a fire suddenly breaking out and the fire squad arriving needing that fire hydrant, or a moving company showing up, during the 90 seconds your car is going to be there. When you unload heavy items in a parking lot using a handicapped space and dismiss the odds of five handicapped people showing up at just that moment, you’re right. There’s not going to be an amputee convention arrving during those three minutes.

Nope. Just saying he parked in a handicapped space for any reason for any duration equals immediate harping. This is a fact.

To be fair, Blaster Master did say “less crap”. I concur that there is no scenario that would lead to zero crap, but I can hypothetically envision a thread like this involving a lesser quantity of crap overall. Depending on the details, I mean.

The OP broke the letter of the law by parking there (and everybody here has done something similiar sometime, probably for even more minor reasons than the OP had).

The OP was a bit of a dick for pitting the complaining lady (though do note he was actually decent to her in person).

He didnt actually cause anyone in real life any problems. It sounds like the probability he might have possibly done so had things gone poorly was still pretty damn close to zero. His only real crime that I can see is starting the pit thread in first place (lordy save us all from such heinous crimes).

IMO a good fraction of those giving him grief (but not all, some are decently thoughtful/logical posts chastising the OP) are even more entitled, stupid, illogical complaining pricks than the OP ever was.

And I say this as someone who has much sympathy for handicapped folks, knows a few, and as best as I can remember has never for any reason parked in a handicapped spot in first place (even in the damn middle of the night in an empty parking lot with the businesses closed).

But hey, this is the pit where everybody gets to be an ass so carry on.