Do you by any chance drive a BMW, because I think with a BMW you get to be self righteous about how important your are. YMMV.
I tend to get those glares right up until I haul the kidlet out of the back seat.
Granted, around here, they tend to be close to the mid-parking-lot cart corrals and not up front–the intent being that you don’t have to carry the kid as far after putting the cart where it goes.
I think you two were talking about how baffling it is that someone can actually feel morally superior for driving 50 mph rather than 60 mph.
Come on. Did you see the series of posts that lead to that snippit. A pretty extreme scenario of maximum benefit, bordering on need, was posited. Shot From Guns said, “well, then you’re a retard.” Given the seriousness with which she was treating what was begun as a legitimate attempt at conversation and understanding by Blaster Master, I quipped something snarky back at her.
If you want to take that seriously, feel free, but if you need me to spell it out I will: the quoted portion above was sarcasm. I “dug in my heels” there because even in the extreme hypothetical I (or whomever) was being called a retard. Someone was digging in their heels, and it wasn’t me.
Wow, I doubt it means anything to the OP but when I read that post I did a double take on the name. Really? I didn’t see that coming at all.
FWIW my husband has been a musician for lo these 15 years or so; 5 or more shows a week. He got himself some lighter gear and a handtruck and just parks and carts. And he’s close to double your age if I remember right. I don’t care how you rationalize it, you are wrong and the lady that reprimanded you isn’t the jerk in this story. I’m sad to see this thread.
Trolling.

Never? Man, you don’t know what you’re missing. If you ever get a chance to drive a fast car on a lonely road, remember that Nzinga gave you permission to go a bit nuts just once.
Really it’s more about me being a wuss about these things (and not moral superiority ). I’m just not so much in hurry that I want to risk a $200 ticket. I’m the one who can always find a cop on those lonely roads. But I do appreciate the permission…

So, ok, I am a liar? Please explain to me how my story has changed. The one “change” to my story, which happened four or five pages ago, was that I didn’t mean to argue that I was right to park in the spot.
The two that I remember off hand is the fact that you could have parked legally (and morally) 15 feet further down, and that suddenly you didn’t really have to walk all that far.
Neither can you say for sure that a meteor isn’t going to hit the Earth tomorrow and take out Topeka. But I bet you feel pretty comfortable assuming so.
It is far more likely that someone will need the handicapped spot you are selfishly planted in, particularly in some areas. I don’t know what it’s like in Vermont, but I have trouble believing that those spots go unused all that often.
I have said explicitly “If someone came and asked I would move.”
And I’ll tell you explicitly that they shouldn’t have to and probably wouldn’t have done so.
And, clearly you can’t be bothered to read the thread; this took place by a music building on a college campus. No one was there to go shopping. Once again, making up details that have nothing to do with the OP to prove what a jerk I am. Or does me pointing that out mean that I’m changing my story or back-pedaling?
Probably back-pedaling. When you say that you make a practice of doing this all over town, it is always in places where no handicapped person would have business to conduct? :dubious:

So…you did something you know is illegal and utterly schmuckish (I mean, dude, 15 extra fucking feet? Really?), and you’re pissed that someone assumed you were just oblivious instead of a schmuck?
Thank you for that completely original post. No one else has posted anything even remotely like this in this thread yet.
Somedays I really love this place. Today is not one of those days.

Wow, I doubt it means anything to the OP but when I read that post I did a double take on the name. Really? I didn’t see that coming at all.
FWIW my husband has been a musician for lo these 15 years or so; 5 or more shows a week. He got himself some lighter gear and a handtruck and just parks and carts. And he’s close to double your age if I remember right. I don’t care how you rationalize it, you are wrong and the lady that reprimanded you isn’t the jerk in this story. I’m sad to see this thread.
Hey Zette! It does mean something (and, I still have some of his tunes on my computer!). You’re right. I acted sub-optimally. Which I’ve said before, and will say a few more times before this post is through.
Ok, I think I’m basically done with this. I don’t have the energy anymore.
Here’s the low-down (all "you"s that follow are generic).
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Events went down as described in the OP, by the music building on a college campus in the off-season. Regardless of what anyone in this thread would like to believe; said handicapped spots get parked in or blocked in (effectively the same thing) by vehicles loading and unloading into the theater/music building, which I will refuse to believe that, when done swiftly, is wrong.
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Folks here scream bloody murder.
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I get my hackles up, and defend my nefarious practice. The statement, “I’ve loaded in from “taxis only” spots, fire lanes, “handicapped” spots, on street corners, and double parked in traffic if I’m not going to be away from the car for more than 60 seconds,” is indeed true. The fact of the matter is that for the most part the times I use handicapped spots in the manner listed in the OP is in situations like the OP; private lots of campuses, dance studios, and the like in off hours.
Why I didn’t clarify when people continued to go crazy? Because people were going crazy. Since I was already fighting the hypothetical to an insane degree, it clearly didn’t matter the circumstances, and I decided I’d rather work on getting the details of the specific story in the OP correct. Scream “back peddler!” if you want to. If you all weren’t so busy accusing me of theft, beating up old people, and the like, I might have had the energy to correct that bit of unclear information.
So, I find myself in a stupid battle defending my honor against a bunch of dickwads who clearly don’t know what makes a ‘bad’ person. Who clearly have all done nothing but good to their fellow man. Because your insistence that I am a horrible person is one of the most perspective-free loads of hogwash I have ever seen. And, I decided that instead of slinking away to let this just die, I would stand up to the disgusting behavior and lack of rational thought in this thread, and not let folks walk away feeling good about themselves quite so easily. Fucking bullies.
And, here’s the thing. As I’ve said countless times in this thread; YOU ARE RIGHT! WHAT I DID WAS NOT A GOOD THING! But you’re all too busy jerking yourselves off over telling me how horrible I am that you can’t let that sink in. You refuse to view it in any shade of gray, refuse to put it in perspective with other selfish or bad acts that could be done. I mean, really? How can you all live in a world where such a small act is so bad that it inspires you to say to people what you’ve said to me? You’re all jerks, and you don’t even realize it. You think that because you’re standing up for a “good cause” that somehow it doesn’t count?
So, there you go. Thanks to those who, even if they had harsh words, were able make their points in a reasonable fashion. This thread could have ended 7 pages ago with me sheepishly concerning that you were right, but your point got hijacked by a bunch of asses.

Trolling.
Troll harder, dammit.
So, disappointed that this thread hasn’t made it to 10 pages: Yes/no?

But you’re all too busy jerking yourselves off over telling me how horrible I am that you can’t let that sink in.
All right, side issue.
I’ve heard this kind of thing a lot. Whenever the majority of posters agree on something and try to convince a much smaller minority on some issue - and when this is done persistently, the charge goes up. There’s a gang bang or a circle jerk or we’re all jerking off or whatever. Some kind of sexual immage is brought up. I think there’s even a rule against it in Great Debates.
Why isn’t this a standard logical fallacy? Or is it? If there isn’t I’m coining the term right now. Argument ad priapism.

This thread could have ended 7 pages ago with me sheepishly concerning that you were right, but your point got hijacked by a bunch of asses.
Oh, so it’s our fault?
Seriously dude, it’s the Dope, it’s what we do. Sure it’s a pile-on - that’s entertaining! Who doesn’t love a reverse pitting? If you would have sheepishly admitted you were wrong 7 pages ago none of this would have happened. But you just had to go and make the “wrong, wrong, wrong” post, didn’tcha…
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I think you two were talking about how baffling it is that someone can actually feel morally superior for driving 50 mph rather than 60 mph.
Do handicapped people ever drive the speed limit? I’m thinking replace the handicapped logo on their license plates with the orange slow moving vehicle triangle.

All right, side issue.
I’ve heard this kind of thing a lot. Whenever the majority of posters agree on something and try to convince a much smaller minority on some issue - and when this is done persistently, the charge goes up. There’s a gang bang or a circle jerk or we’re all jerking off or whatever. Some kind of sexual immage is brought up. I think there’s even a rule against it in Great Debates.
Why isn’t this a standard logical fallacy? Or is it? If there isn’t I’m coining the term right now. Argument ad priapism.
I like that, but I’d say “argument ad priapum,” “argument to the [engorged] penis” or else “to the god Priapus.”
And I’m pleased to be one of the hypersenitive asses who derailed the thread with my unreasonable comments about the OP.

But you’re all too busy jerking yourselves off over telling me how horrible I am that you can’t let that sink in.
Nitpick: jerking each other off.
Dopers never park in the handicapped spots, even momentarily. They always tip more than 20%. Their children never cry in public. They never drop so much as a toenail clipping on the ground, but only into the designated litter receptacle.
We’re perfect.
Regards,
Shodan

Nitpick: jerking each other off.
Dopers never park in the handicapped spots, even momentarily. They always tip more than 20%. Their children never cry in public. They never drop so much as a toenail clipping on the ground, but only into the designated litter receptacle.
We’re perfect.
No shit. Can you imagine what would have happened if he had called that lady fat!?

I like that, but I’d say “argument ad priapum,” “argument to the [engorged] penis” or else “to the god Priapus.”
Hm. I was thinking of the medical condition because the argument seems to be “You guys have a hard on where you shouldn’t”. But your latin is better and it sounds classier so:
Argumentum ad priapum: A subset of argumentum ad hominem where one attempts to negatively characterise one’s opponent by stating or implying that he or she is not debating logically or in good faith, but rather due to an overeager enthusiasm bordering on or linked to sexual arousal.

And Hitler always used his turn signals when merging.
Hitler never drove, he never had a driver’s license.
Consequently, Hitler could have never parked in a handicapped space.
Therefore, you are worse than Hitler.