# You know, we should chat about global warming **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 21, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365 "2015-10-21T16:32:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![inscrutable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a88e4f/32.png) [@inscrutable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inscrutable)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/221 "2015-11-05T22:45:06Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > That’s because you’re a moron and an asshole. > > I assure you I and many of my scientific colleagues find it extremely depressing to understand the dimensions of the problem in the face of the monumental and actual willful ignorance that prevents meaningful action to prevent it or even slow it very much. You can have my carbon when you pry it from my cold, dead… ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/222 "2015-11-05T23:22:33Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Oh my! Parmesan had been associated with Al Gore. Little wonder that she’s depressed. > > _(Camille) Parmesan has a pretty serious stake in the field. In 2007, she shared a Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore for her work as a lead author of the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)._ You’re not smart enough to engage effectively on this topic. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/223 "2015-11-06T01:10:28Z")
When the sun burns out in a few billion years, will we still be worrying about climate change? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/224 "2015-11-06T01:24:03Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > When the sun burns out in a few billion years, will we still be worrying about climate change? I will be. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/225 "2015-11-06T03:41:43Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Oh my! Parmesan had been associated with Al Gore. Little wonder that she’s depressed. Another moron and asshole heard from. I don’t doubt the usual fuckwits will make their appearance. > [@](#): > > _(Camille) Parmesan has a pretty serious stake in the field. In 2007, she shared a Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore for her work as a lead author of the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)._ If this is somehow intended to cast doubt on her motives, it’s even more cretinous than your usual remarks. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/226 "2015-11-06T17:00:06Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > …(Camille) Parmesan has a pretty serious stake in the field. In 2007, she shared a Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore for her work as a lead author of the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). > > If this is somehow intended to cast doubt on her motives, it’s even more cretinous than your usual remarks. (post shortened, underline added) Wow! It’s a shame you couldn’t be bothered to read the article in question. I actually read the article linked to in post #216? I’m surprised that you hadn’t. Otherwise, you might have noticed that it’s a quote from the 2nd paragraph of that same article. Or are you calling Madeleine Thomas cretinous? \*Climate depression is for real. Just ask a scientist -By Madeleine Thomas Two years ago, Camille Parmesan, a professor at Plymouth University and the University of Texas at Austin, became so “professionally depressed” that she questioned abandoning her research in climate change entirely. Parmesan has a pretty serious stake in the field. In 2007, she shared a Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore for her work as a lead author of the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). In 2009, The Atlantic named her one of 27 “Brave Thinkers” for her work on the impacts of climate change on species around the globe.\* ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/227 "2015-11-06T17:01:40Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I will be. You don’t look a day over a million and a half. What’s your secret? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/228 "2015-11-06T17:06:09Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > …The IPCC was the work by volunteer scientists reviewing all the published science to that date. It just so happened that a lot of those reviewers also were experts on the field, but it is clear that you are the kind of person that will avoid to consult the experts if you have a prostate problem or will consult and vote for a quack like Carson. Did you read the article? Climate scientists are depressed because the public doesn’t seem to find their work believable. If anyone ever has any questions about prostate problems, I can’t imagine them not thinking of you, first. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/229 "2015-11-06T17:14:52Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > God is a Mets fan? Apparently not. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/230 "2015-11-06T17:33:17Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > You don’t look a day over a million and a half. What’s your secret? Nanites. And clean living. Mostly the nanites though. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/231 "2015-11-06T17:40:43Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Did you read the article? Climate scientists are depressed because the public doesn’t seem to find their work believable. In reality it is most of the Republican public, the scientist clearly has only encountered the “public” that is in the form of Republican congress critters or misguided Republican conservatives. > **[Rep. Lamar Smith Accused Scientists of “Altering” Data. Did They?](https://slate.com/technology/2015/11/climate-data-lamar-smith-and-adjusting-scientific-data.html)** > > Rep. Lamar Smith accuses NOAA of altering data. He doesn't understand how science works. > [@doorhinge](#): > > If anyone ever has any questions about prostate problems, I can’t imagine them not thinking of you, first. As a scientist has told you already, you are “a moron and asshole” so yeah, you are the one with the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/232 "2015-11-06T19:12:59Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Wow! It’s a shame you couldn’t be bothered to read the article in question. I actually read the article linked to in post #216? I’m surprised that you hadn’t. I read the article. What I don’t understand is what point you were trying to make in quoting it. You haven’t tried to explain that. But imaging your posts have a point is pointless. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/233 "2015-11-06T20:50:09Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > In reality it is most of the Republican public, the scientist clearly has only encountered the “public” that is in the form of Republican congress critters or misguided Republican conservatives. > > [http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad\_astronmy/2015/11/05/climate\_data\_lamar\_smith\_and\_adjusting\_scientific\_data.html](http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronmy/2015/11/05/climate_data_lamar_smith_and_adjusting_scientific_data.html) > As a scientist has told you already, you are “a moron and asshole” so yeah, you are the one with the problem. Are you also one of those depressed climate scientists? Why oh why don’t people simple believe what you tell them? Why don’t people do what you want them to do? This could be the question of the ages. Unless, of course, people have heard all sides of the issue and have made up their own minds? Is that even possible? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/234 "2015-11-06T20:54:42Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Unless, of course, people have heard all sides of the issue and have made up their own minds? Is that even possible? :eek: Are you actually pretending that you have read the technical papers and reports on the issue and made your decision on that basis? You don’t have enough a mind to make up. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/235 "2015-11-06T20:56:37Z")
For historical reference > [@doorhinge](#): > > Oh my! Parmesan had been associated with Al Gore. Little wonder that she’s depressed. > > _(Camille) Parmesan has a pretty serious stake in the field. In 2007, she shared a Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore for her work as a lead author of the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)._ > [@Colibri](#): > > I read the article. What I don’t understand is what point you were trying to make in quoting it. You haven’t tried to explain that. (post shortened) It’s simple, Camille Parmesan has been associated with Al Gore. I can’t imagine anything more depressing than that. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/236 "2015-11-06T21:00:57Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Are you actually pretending that you have read the technical papers and reports on the issue and made your decision on that basis? > > You don’t have enough a mind to make up. Oh My, aren’t you bitter, today. The IPCC has had 28+ years to convince people that their way is the only way. It appears that they’ve failed. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/237 "2015-11-06T21:25:31Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I can’t imagine anything more depressing than that. Imagining being you is far more depressing. > [@doorhinge](#): > > Oh My, aren’t you bitter, today. The IPCC has had 28+ years to convince people that their way is the only way. It appears that they’ve failed. [No they haven’t.](http://environment.yale.edu/climate-communication/article/american-opinions-on-global-warming-a-yale-gallup-clearvision-poll) Even in the US, where Republicans and the political interests associated with fossil fuels have tried very hard to sow confusion on the issue, a large majority of people believe that climate change is happening (71%), that it’s caused at least in part by humans (69%), and that it’s an urgent threat requiring immediate and drastic action (62%). Most world governments were convinced years ago. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/238 "2015-11-06T21:47:59Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > For historical reference > > (post shortened) > > It’s simple, Camille Parmesan has been associated with Al Gore. I can’t imagine anything more depressing than that. For posterity, using Al Gore with no context about anything he has said, like if he was the bogey man, is a move made by deniers who try to inject politics into the issue. > **[Is Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth accurate?](https://skepticalscience.com/al-gore-inconvenient-truth-errors.htm)** > > \While there are minor errors in An Inconvenient Truth, the main truths presented - evidence to show mankind is causing global warming and its various impacts is consistent with peer reviewed science.\ > [@](#): > > Note: the vilification of Al Gore is best understood in the context of personalisation. When opponents attack something abstract - like science - the public may not associate with the argument. By giving a name and a face and a set of behavioural characteristics - being a rich politician, for example - it is easy to create a fictional enemy through inference and association. Al Gore is a successful politician who presented a film, his training and experience suitable to the task. To invoke Gore is a way to obfuscate about climate science, for which Gore has neither responsibility, claim nor blame. The way you referred to Gore is really just like a Godwin, just a symptom that guys like you do not have any ideas left, so the personification and political cards are played, regardless if it was noted \*\*for years already \*\*that the ones that do play those cards nowadays are just branding themselves as partisan, no science, **useless** idiots for the fossil fuel industry. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/239 "2015-11-06T22:17:58Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > For posterity, using Al Gore with no context about anything he has said, like if he was the bogey man, is a move made by deniers who try to inject politics into the issue. Exactly. This demonstrates more clearly than anything else that **doorhinge’s** opinions are politically based rather than on any evaluation of the evidence. It’s like imagining that insulting Darwin somehow scores a point against evolution. The weird thing is that he seems to believe that he’s come to his opinions independently rather than having them dictated to him by politicians. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/240 "2015-11-06T22:59:06Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > This demonstrates more clearly than anything else that doorhinge’s opinions are politically based rather than on any evaluation of the evidence. And that his bubble is so air-tight that he assumes the general public agrees with him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365.md?page=13)