# You know, we should chat about global warming **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 21, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365 "2015-10-21T16:32:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/141 "2015-10-23T23:39:42Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > I’m a newb here so I haven’t really become completely familiar with everyone’s name but from your total lack of anything even remotely containing substance you might be the first to grace my ignore list. > > I bet that really hurts huh? A supposed “troll” putting your boring ass on ignore… Oh darn. What a shame. What_ever_ shall I do? You’re right, sweetcheeks, I avoid substance in the BBQ Pit. Seeing as how that’s its entire nature and purpose and all. And yet, I’ve still provided at least as much substance as you so far, George Liquor. Funny, that. ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/142 "2015-10-23T23:41:15Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Red herring, it is the preponderance of evidence that it is making the scientists make more money than the quacks, if you were correct on this then one would think that medical scientists that make more money are wrong and the chiropractic quacks are right. > > The point of looking at the funding of the deniers is to also note that the ones getting funding to seed FUD are also people that are not experts in the field (so they can be bought at cheaper prices) but that abuse science to make fear, uncertainty and doubt. Funding that although it is not as big as real science it is nevertheless enough money to allow the trolls and the ones that follow them to be more effective than they would be. So you can’t point out where the deniers are in it for more money than the believers? Shocked I tell you, shocked… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/143 "2015-10-23T23:44:39Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > So you can’t point out where the deniers are in it for more money than the believers? > > Shocked I tell you, shocked… :rolleyes: I actually did agree that generally speaking the deniers do not get more money than science, but fell happy to show all your idiocy at not noticing that. The point was that it does not help your position on wilfully ignoring the evidence and the science. ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/144 "2015-10-23T23:44:46Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Oh darn. What a shame. What_ever_ shall I do? > > You’re right, sweetcheeks, I avoid substance in the BBQ Pit. Seeing as how that’s its entire nature and purpose and all. And yet, I’ve still provided at least as much substance as you so far, George Liquor. Funny, that. Cool story, bro… ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/145 "2015-10-23T23:48:09Z")
Hey, guess what piece of shit thread is no longer visible to me on the main Pit page? 🙂 No offense, Smeghead, this one started out fun, but I hope it goes the way of the other one. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/146 "2015-10-23T23:49:04Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Panama huh? > > I was gonna write up a witty retort to your boring drivel but it seems your life sucks enough. > > Carry on, boy… Actually **Colibri** is also one of the few scientists that post on the SDMB that is still doing some work on the field, he just so happens to be in Panama now. Keep reminding all about your ignorance levels boy. ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/147 "2015-10-23T23:50:29Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I actually did agree that generally speaking the deniers do not get more money than science. k thx… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/148 "2015-10-23T23:51:39Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > k thx… k we confirmed you are a moron, so thanks for that. I also mentioned before that indeed chiropractors also do not get more money than real doctors, so I guess you are not smart enough to realize what that means, that quacks get less money than doctors does not mean that they are correct. The point you made was indeed only on your head. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/149 "2015-10-23T23:52:25Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > … but I hope it goes the way of the other one. The troll or the thread? ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/150 "2015-10-23T23:55:26Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Actually **Colibri** is also one of the few scientists that post on the SDMB that is still doing some work on the field, he just so happens to be in Panama now. > > Keep reminding all about your ignorance levels boy. Alright, you got me there. I was ignorant of his situation and I apologize for that. I might not agree with his science but I bet it would be a blast to visit of country like Panama to get paid to study there. I’m a little jelly right now… ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/151 "2015-10-24T00:03:28Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > k we confirmed you are a moron, so thanks for that. I also mentioned before that indeed chiropractors also do not get more money than real doctors, so I guess you are not smart enough to realize what that means, that quacks get less money than doctors does not mean that they are correct. The point you made was indeed only on your head. I visit a chiropractor 3 times a week. He might be a quack to you but I walk out of there feeling like a million bucks every time. My doctor on the other hand always wants to give me a handful of pills. Nice guy but fuck that shit… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/152 "2015-10-24T00:04:25Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Alright, you got me there. > > I was ignorant of his situation and I apologize for that. > > I might not agree with his science but I bet it would be a blast to visit of country like Panama to get paid to study there. > > I’m a little jelly right now… Oh well don’t feel too bad, but why do you hate Ornithology? \* 🙂 - Before you reply you should know that ornithologists also are noticing the changes and the problems many bird species are encountering with the climate changes. [http://climate.audubon.org/](http://climate.audubon.org/) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/153 "2015-10-24T00:05:16Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > The troll or the thread? The thread. That other thing will take care of itself. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/154 "2015-10-24T00:05:29Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > I visit a chiropractor 3 times a week. He might be a quack to you but I walk out of there feeling like a million bucks every time. > > My doctor on the other hand always wants to give me a handful of pills. Nice guy but fuck that shit… Oh well, just more evidence of you being a [crank magnet](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Crank_magnetism). [Not my problem if you want to offer it](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chiropractor). ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/155 "2015-10-24T00:10:20Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Oh well don’t feel too bad, but why do you hate Ornithology? \* 🙂 > > - Before you reply you should know that ornithologists also are noticing the changes and the problems many bird species are encountering with the climate changes. > > [http://climate.audubon.org/](http://climate.audubon.org/) Thx for the info. I was gonna Google ornithologist but you thankfully saved me the hassle. I gotta ask though, how do they know it’s man made? The dinosaurs seemed to suffer a great deal towards the end of their reign but I doubt it was man made… ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/156 "2015-10-24T00:12:31Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Oh well, just more evidence of you being a [crank magnet](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Crank_magnetism). [Not my problem if you want to offer it](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chiropractor). Wow, that website isn’t biased or anything :smack: ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/157 "2015-10-24T00:20:16Z")
I just realized you probably can’t afford to go to a chiropractor regularly. Obamacare doesn’t cover that??? Wow, I’d ask for a refund on that Hope & Change™ if I were you… It’s actually pretty sweet 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![canned\_mayhem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@canned\_mayhem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/canned_mayhem)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/158 "2015-10-24T00:24:12Z")
I bet Obama sees a chiropractor more than I do and it’s most likely on the tax payers dime. Does that hurt your feels? ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/159 "2015-10-24T00:35:38Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Panama huh? > > I was gonna write up a witty retort to your boring drivel but it seems your life sucks enough. > > Carry on, boy… Weird … I’m guessing you never got past J Street then? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365/160 "2015-10-24T00:38:13Z")
> [@canned\_mayhem](#): > > Thx for the info. I was gonna Google ornithologist but you thankfully saved me the hassle. > > I gotta ask though, how do they know it’s man made? The dinosaurs seemed to suffer a great deal towards the end of their reign but I doubt it was man made… [Always a pleasure to reply](https://youtu.be/lPgZfhnCAdI?t=308). (like the pleasure one has when using a laser pointer with a cat) It is because paleo climatologists and oceanographers also investigated the issue, the CO2 is the same stuff we are releasing in the atmosphere and in prehistoric times the high amount of CO2 caused the temperature to be high and oceans were at much higher levels than now. Whereas natural or human released the result is the same. [https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/2014/06/20/how-do-co2-levels-relate-to-ice-ages-and-sea-level/](https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/2014/06/20/how-do-co2-levels-relate-to-ice-ages-and-sea-level/) > [@](#): > > By contrast, as humans burn fossil fuels, we are creating a new driver of snow and ice melt and accompanying sea-level rise. This time, additional CO2 entering the atmosphere is coming from sources of carbon that had previously been sequestered in fuels such as oil and gas. We know from basic physics that CO2 traps heat. The phenomenon is perhaps best demonstrated by Earth’s neighbor Venus. If we lived on Venus, the computer you’re reading this post on now would be melting. That’s because Venus has 100,000 times the amount of CO2 in its atmosphere as Earth does and its average temperature of 462° C (863° F) is high enough to melt lead. > > Thus, while in the past sea-level rise as a result of melting glaciers and thermal expansion was driven by changes in Earth’s orbit and amplified by oceanic CO2 released after initial warming, today anthropogenic CO2 is directly driving this melting and sea-level rise. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-we-should-chat-about-global-warming/735365.md?page=9)