My point is that you are still incapable of convincing enough members of the public that your version of global warming is correct. And you have no idea how to make your presentation believable to the voters/public. Sux to be you.
Meanwhile, it’s nice to reminisce about past global warming, Academy Award winning efforts.
*3.The Gulf Stream would be shut down by global warming, causing sharp cooling in northwest Europe.
Gore’s view: “One of the [scenarios] they are most worried about where they have spent a lot of time studying the problem is the North Atlantic, where the Gulf Stream comes up and meets the cold wind coming off the Arctic over Greenland and evaporates the heat out of the Gulf Stream and the stream is carried over to western Europe by the prevailing winds and the earth’s rotation … they call it the Ocean Conveyor. At the end of the last ice age … that pump shut off and the heat transfer stopped and Europe went back into an ice age for another 900 or 1,000 years. Of course that’s not going to happen again, because glaciers of North America are not there. Is there any big chunk of ice anywhere near there? Oh yeah. [points at Greenland]”[20]
Justice Burton’s view: “According to the IPCC, it is very unlikely that the Ocean Conveyor (known technically as the Meridional Overturning Circulation or thermohaline circulation) will shut down in the future, though it is considered likely that thermohaline circulation may slow down.”[19]
Other scientific views: A group of 12 climatologists was surveyed on this question in 2006 by Kirsten Zickfeld of the University of Victoria, Canada. Assuming a temperature rise of 4 °C (7.2 °F) by 2100, eight of them assessed the probability of thermohaline circulation collapse as significantly above zero; three estimated a probability of 40% or higher.*
It is clear also that the doorhinge here can not read the evidence that showed already that the judge was just ignorant too in that case. Normal for a piece of door.
I wouldn’t accept doorhinge’s word on what is the capital of Tennessee, and I don’t have any idea about Justice Burton – I don’t do science by appellate hearings! – but you, I know, know your material: what am I missing? Why would it take so long for the melting ice caps over Greenland to move into sea-level rise? It seems to me it should happen almost immediately.
Is it that the Greenland ice would melt into groundwater first, and only gradually move out, via streams and rivers, to the sea? Or is there some other factor I don’t know of?
(I have Socrates’ advantage over doorhinge: I know where I am ignorant. He fuckin’ doesn’t!)
I only need to show that the whole truth was that the judge in the end let the move continue to be shown with the clarifications and notes made available to students.
And I already posted the evidence that, well, you also lied about how many people are being convinced, a lot indeed.
AFAIK one should not forget that winter still comes, and a lot of snow and ice would still fall into inland regions of Greenland; what is worrisome is that the risk, of seeing even more of an accelerated loss of ice in Greenland affecting the gulf stream and thermobaric circulation, is not “zero” as the judge also claimed that scientists did agree, in reality more research was and is needed to afford to be so cavalier with the risks.
Another worrisome aspect of this is that indeed it was expected for the loss of ice to be gradual, even the IPCC reported that the ocean was going to rise about 3 feet at the end of the century caused by some of that ice melting, but all those conservative calculations were based provided that there was no acceleration on the rate of ice loss. Unfortunately that acceleration has been observed, and it means that then we have to consider higher numbers, like 6 feet by the end of the century. I remember seeing studies that report that we could then see the 3 feet rise by the middle of the century instead of by the end of it.
Trolling is still banned in the pit, right? Colibri? Either this is trolling, or this person is officially too retarded to use a keyboard and has someone else working the buttons.
This post physically hurt me. My table is now missing a head-sized chunk, and I feel woozy, like I suddenly lost about as much IQ as doorhinge ever had to begin with.
You’ve gotter be kidding! The Pit is where trolls make their happy homes, feathering their troll-nests with horse-feathers. The Pit is the trolls’ happy hunting grounds, where they go out trolling for hogwash and bullshit, to wax their trollbards and trollputs, and make anti-candles to darken the illumination. The Pit is the trolls’ natural habitat, a preserve where they can recover their numbers, so sadly depleted after the Enlightenment.
There is a minor outpost habitat in Great Debates, where trolls may enjoy a guarded existence under the rubric of “Witnessing.” But it is in the Pit where they may wallow happily in the mire of their own mucus, yelping their familiar reproductive cry, “Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah?” Millions of dopers are familiar with this hurly-burly breed of cat because of this carefully guarded preserve.
I dunno, there’s something kinda touching in doorhinge’s wide eyed optimism that if the truth were really on the side of one part of the debate, they’d convince everybody of it, even through millions of dollars and the influence of several large industries, media companies, and government officials.
How stupid are you? Have you bumped your head recently? You must really want to give away $100.
(I want to make it clear that I am personally hoping California will soon recieve a sufficiently abundent amount of water to end it’s drought and fill it’s resevoirs. “Dirty, stinking, hippies” should only be a cute catch phrase. )
I’ve already told you that I’m not interested in taking your bet, but don’t let that stop you from asking again. :smack:
Generally-speaking, if you really feel the need to make a bet, you need to challenge someone who actually disagreed with your statement. In this specific case, you need to find someone who does NOT believe that California will receive a higher than average amount of precipitation in the current water year (“water year” being Oct 2015 thru Sept 2016). History indicates that California has recieved copious amounts of percipitation after several years of extremely low levels. It’s cyclic.
EYE have not said that California will not receive precipitation in the current water year. EYE have not said that California will again receive drought-levels of precipitation. EYE have not said that California will fail to reach their average annual level of precipitation. EYE have not said that California will receive catostrophic levels of precipitation in the current water year.
*8. Polar bears were being found drowned after having to swim long distances to find the (melting) ice.
Gore’s view: “That’s not good for creatures like polar bears that depend on the ice. A new scientific study shows that for the first time they’re finding polar bears that have actually drowned, swimming long distances up to 60 miles to find the ice. They did not find that before.”
Justice Burton’s view: “The only scientific study that either side before me can find is one which indicates that four polar bears have recently been found drowned because of a storm. That is not to say that there may not in the future be drowning-related deaths of polar bears if the trend continues.”
Other scientific views: The study in question is a September 2004 paper in Polar Biology which describes the unprecedented discovery of four drowned polar bears in the Beaufort Sea off Alaska.[28] The paper’s lead author “doubts this was simply the result of exhaustion from having to swim further from ice to shore. More likely, weather conditions are becoming more severe in the growing expanses of open water, making swimming more difficult.”*
Bottom line is that Al Gore’s incontinence truth has undermined the work of the man-made-CO2-is-evil zealots. A 96 minute mock-u-mentary with nine errors. Even including the opening sequence and the ending credits, that’s an error every 10 minutes.
