# You know what I hate? How the word empowerment lost its original use and context

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 28, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678 "2018-01-28T21:44:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/1 "2018-01-28T21:44:31Z")

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Thanks to the rise of SJW culture, empowerment doesn’t really apply anymore to people who are bullied for instance or socially akward. Empowerment now only applies to certain demographics regardless if you’re marginalized or not.

Now taking nude selfies is considered empowerment, commiting crimes is considered empowerment, bitching and whining is considered empowerment.

Wtf?  
It has become the buzzword version of motivation now and is just sad.

> **[From shopping to naked selfies: how 'empowerment' lost its meaning](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/19/from-shopping-to-naked-selfies-how-empowerment-lost-its-meaning-feminism)**
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> The catch-all term has come to denote a watered-down feminism, popular with celebrities and advertisers alike. How did this authentic appeal from the marginalised become so abused?

Thnx rise of cultural Marxism. Is only a matter of time before punching a wall is considered bullying.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/2 "2018-01-28T21:47:07Z")

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However compared to motivation, the word was even rare to use back in the day. Still, it has been watered down.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/3 "2018-01-28T22:00:52Z")

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Oh, piss off, you whiny fucking snowflake.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/4 "2018-01-28T22:08:25Z")

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Shouldn’t you be outside with your hypermasculine black buddies playing stickball or Chubby Bunny or something, instead of sitting inside on a Sunday and boring the living shit out of a bunch of people you’ve never met with your half-brained observations?

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/5 "2018-01-28T22:10:40Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Shouldn’t you be outside with your hypermasculine black buddies playing stickball or Chubby Bunny or something, instead of sitting inside on a Sunday and boring the living shit out of a bunch of people you’ve never met with your half-brained observations?

I am actually going on a walk, thnx.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/6 "2018-01-28T22:12:26Z")

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Isn’t it time for your nap?

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/7 "2018-01-28T22:13:59Z")

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> Thanks to the rise of SJW culture

I see no need to read further :dubious: we already know the post is BS

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/8 "2018-01-28T22:14:20Z")

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To expand, rather than simply vent my frustration with the OP.

You, OP, are letting yourself be manipulated by the hypocrites.

Nobody of any kind of influence says ‘crime’ is empowering, you bloody moron, and the (frankly, idiotic) article you posted doesn’t even claim it.

But, speaking of meaningless buzzwords: ‘SJW’ and ‘cultural marxism’ are completely empty worship words, used by people trying to hypocritically manufacture victimization for themselves.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/9 "2018-01-28T22:18:20Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> To expand, rather than simply vent my frustration with the OP.
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> You, OP, are letting yourself be manipulated by the hypocrites.
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> Nobody of any kind of influence says ‘crime’ is empowering, you bloody moron, and the (frankly, idiotic) article you posted doesn’t even claim it.
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> But, speaking of meaningless buzzwords: ‘SJW’ and ‘cultural marxism’ are completely empty worship words, used by people trying to hypocritically manufacture victimization for themselves.

I agree this is mostly internet stuff. I am just tired of watering down of the word. That speaks a lot of volume for the rise of identity politics in our culture.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/10 "2018-01-28T22:19:54Z")

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Luciano, since you have brought this to the pit…even taking into account your age, your not being raised in this culture, and your self-proclaimed autism, you _still_ come off like a moronic twit with an emotional and intellectual age in the single digits.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/11 "2018-01-28T22:25:03Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Luciano, since you have brought this to the pit…even taking into account your age, your not being raised in this culture, and your self-proclaimed autism, you _still_ come off like a moronic twit with an emotional and intellectual age in the single digits.

Fine, as long I can still use the word “empowerment” for myself. I am all cool.

education, strife, overcoming obstacles, and work.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/12 "2018-01-28T22:27:53Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Isn’t it time for your nap?

And diaper change?

Haven’t we seen this exact same troll recently? Get some new material, bub.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/13 "2018-01-28T22:31:00Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> And diaper change?
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> Haven’t we seen this exact same troll recently? Get some new material, bub.

Before you all come me a troll. First off I want to say I am trying to fight my own ignorance for once  
2nd, is ok guys. I been pretty marginalized and shilled through my personal life already. Surely this will do me any better.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/14 "2018-01-28T22:31:40Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> Fine, as long I can still use the word “empowerment” for myself. I am all cool.

That isn’t how you spell “embarrassment.”

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/15 "2018-01-28T22:33:03Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> That isn’t how you spell “embarrassment.”

Yep, just as expected.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/16 "2018-01-28T22:35:43Z")

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For GOSH sake’s, this is more about the rise of identity politics getting into everything.  
Let me tell you all something. I been studying sociology for the last 2 years, this has let me understand the social world from a better perspective.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/17 "2018-01-28T22:37:25Z")

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I don’t know what the fuck you’re smoking, but you really need to pass that shit around. please.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/18 "2018-01-28T22:37:38Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> 2nd, is ok guys. I been pretty marginalized and shilled through my personal life already. Surely this will do me any better.

If you don’t get off the MRA/MGTOW/Incel bandwagon you seem to be getting on, you are looking at how you will be treated for the rest of your life. But not because you are facing jerks, but because you are becoming a jerk.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/19 "2018-01-28T22:40:00Z")

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There are a lot of words that SJWism has ruined the meaning of. “Racism”, “Sexism”, “Misogyny”, “Rape”, “Sexual Assault”, etc., etc.

Nothing is ever bad enough on its own to the SJW crowd, so everything has to be exaggerated to the greatest possible extent so as to make it 'teh. worst. thing. evar!".

So tiresome and silly…and ultimately counter-productive.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-what-i-hate-how-the-word-empowerment-lost-its-original-use-and-context/807678/20 "2018-01-28T22:41:27Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> If you don’t get off the MRA/MGTOW/Icel bandwagon you seem to be getting on, you are looking at how you will be treated for the rest of your life. But not because you are facing jerks, but because you are becoming a jerk.

Well first off, I never ever thought stuff like mysogny or racism was ok. I have however accepted for instance the biological differences between men and women

I also don’t buy into political labels, as they seen to be getting watered down as well with the rise of identity politics.

I if anything call myself a classical liberal. And I also believe in free speech.

And I also do understand that competition and marginilazation are big elements of human nature.

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