# You Know What's Gonna Be Awkward? Jimmy Carter's Funeral.

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 20, 2020, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-whats-gonna-be-awkward-jimmy-carters-funeral/854176 "2020-05-20T12:59:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> No, I think it’d still be a surprise even if we assume the reverse.

“Always go to other people’s funerals, otherwise they won’t come to yours.”

-Lawrence Peter Berra.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
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> [@Colibri](#):
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> “Always go to other people’s funerals, otherwise they won’t come to yours.”
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> -Lawrence Peter Berra.

This joke also appeared in an old Pogo comic. I wonder who used it first?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
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> [@Colibri](#):
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> “Always go to other people’s funerals, otherwise they won’t come to yours.”
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> -Lawrence Peter Berra.

> [@Senegoid](#):
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> This joke also appeared in an old Pogo comic. I wonder who used it first?

[Quote Investigator.]  
([Always Go To Other People’s Funerals — Otherwise, They Won’t Come To Yours – Quote Investigator®](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/09/27/funeral/))

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> Quote Investigator: In 1987 William Safire who was the language columnist of “The New York Times” asked Yogi Berra about this statement, and Berra denied that he ever made it. 1 Indeed, the jest was circulating before Berra was born.
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> The earliest evidence known to QI was printed in a novel titled “The Youth of the Period” by J. F. Shaw Kennedy in 1876. The publisher was based in London.

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-whats-gonna-be-awkward-jimmy-carters-funeral/854176/84 "2020-05-29T11:22:39Z")

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I don’t see Carter banning Trump but he probably won’t want him to be the main speaker. Or he may not speak at all.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-whats-gonna-be-awkward-jimmy-carters-funeral/854176/85 "2020-05-29T14:54:25Z")

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[quote=“running\_coach, post:83, topic:854176”]

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> ([Always Go To Other People’s Funerals — Otherwise, They Won’t Come To Yours – Quote Investigator®](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/09/27/funeral/))

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> Quote Investigator: In 1987 William Safire who was the language columnist of “The New York Times” asked Yogi Berra about this statement, and Berra denied that he ever made it.

> [@Yogi Berra](#):
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> I really didn’t say everything I said.

We’re getting kind of [meta](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/12/30/yogi-didnt-say/) here.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-whats-gonna-be-awkward-jimmy-carters-funeral/854176/86 "2020-05-30T21:59:32Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> FDR got a state funeral, and some papers were discovered a few weeks later where he expressed his wishes, but apparently hadn’t told Eleanor or his kids. He had only wanted a small service and a simple burial, and that’s not what happened.

Lenin’s wife wanted him cremated; we all know how _that_ turned out.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-whats-gonna-be-awkward-jimmy-carters-funeral/854176/87 "2020-05-30T22:28:19Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Who remembers the funeral of Ronald Reagan, in June of 2004?
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> Geez, what an over-the-top flamboyant week-long extensively scripted and rehearsed cross-country pageant that was, occupying an entire week. I watched the whole thing on TV, that being a time in my life when I really had nothing else to do.
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> Who was supposed to be the beneficiary of all that?

Nancy

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> We’re getting kind of [meta](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/12/30/yogi-didnt-say/) here.

Like quotes by Mark Twain and Ben Franklin, any quote by Yogi should be followed by (attributed).🙂

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-whats-gonna-be-awkward-jimmy-carters-funeral/854176/89 "2021-07-08T16:27:40Z")

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Bumped.

A nice article on the Carters and the secrets to their long and happy marriage: [Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter Share Secrets to 75-year Marriage](https://www.voanews.com/usa/jimmy-and-rosalynn-carter-share-secrets-75-year-marriage)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-whats-gonna-be-awkward-jimmy-carters-funeral/854176/90 "2021-07-08T16:33:39Z")

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Well, one secret to a 75-year marriage is obviously to live a really long time.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
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> “We try to make sure we never go to sleep at night angry at each other,” Carter explains, showing his characteristic grin. “We get angry often, but we try to get over it before we go to sleep.”

I got news for you Jimmy. Rosalynn did not “get over it” for days, sometimes weeks.

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Lenin’s wife wanted him cremated; we all know how _that_ turned out.

If they cremate him, Prince Charming will never be able to kiss him and bring him back to life.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-whats-gonna-be-awkward-jimmy-carters-funeral/854176/93 "2021-07-08T18:20:13Z")

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Saw this thread and thought maybe Jimmy had died. Glad that’s not the case (today).

RE: Trump attending the funeral. Do they give ‘Day Passes’ from prison? (wishful thinking)

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-whats-gonna-be-awkward-jimmy-carters-funeral/854176/94 "2021-07-08T18:28:47Z")

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We also don’t have to worry about the sitting president hypothetical posited in the OP, at least for another 3 1/2 years.

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How about “never”? Would never work for you? Yeah… me, too.

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> at least for another 3 1/2 years.

I heard talk about August.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-whats-gonna-be-awkward-jimmy-carters-funeral/854176/97 "2021-07-08T19:25:35Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I got news for you Jimmy. Rosalynn did not “get over it” for days, sometimes weeks

Sorry, what?

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> [@Orville\_mogul](#):
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> Sorry, what?

Are you now or have you ever been married?

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-whats-gonna-be-awkward-jimmy-carters-funeral/854176/99 "2021-07-08T19:35:43Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> They would have to be made of stone to not make President Trump sweat in silence on his pew.

I haven’t read the whole thread (although I’m about to), but I suspect that both Barack Obama and Joe Biden are pretty decent people, and won’t use a funeral, any funeral, to “make President Trump sweat.”

Also, if you want to see Obama speak at a funeral, check this out:

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9IGyidtfGI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9IGyidtfGI)

In my opinion, for whatever that’s worth, this is one of the greatest speeches ever given by an American president. Or anybody, for that matter.

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**Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-know-whats-gonna-be-awkward-jimmy-carters-funeral/854176/100 "2021-07-09T03:35:23Z")

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Not every marriage is the same, not every spouse is the same. So unless you have been personally told this information by Mrs. Carter, you are talking through your hat.

In the 29 years we have lived together, there has been anger and angry words, but the problem never went unresolved for even 24 hours, usually much less.

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