# You liberals better get f\*\*king! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 22, 2006, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783 "2006-08-22T18:59:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/21 "2006-08-23T17:44:57Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > We’re not “abstaining” tardo. **Diogenes** , personal insults are not allowed outside the Pit. Please do not do this again. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_griffin-kentzel/32/14787_2.png) [@Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Griffin-Kentzel)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/22 "2006-08-23T18:00:24Z")
Well, all I can say is that **DrMatrix** and I will keep trying. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/23 "2006-08-23T18:18:24Z")
> [@SkipMagic](#): > > **Diogenes** , personal insults are not allowed outside the Pit. Please do not do this again. While I don’t question your call on this, I think **Bear Nenno** ’s personal trash talk merits a warning, too. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/24 "2006-08-23T18:27:31Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > It’s actually fairly predictable that a large percentage of new voters will have ideologies diametrically opposed to their parents. If anything, this is good news for liberals. Actually, **Dio** , if you’d had read the article: > [@](#): > > Given that about 80% of people with an identifiable party preference grow up to vote the same way as their parents, I’m doing my part to raise my kidlets to be good little libertarian-conservatives. I’m sure you’re diong your part to raise your kidlets to be good little liberals. ---
**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/25 "2006-08-23T18:35:48Z")
> [@Larry Borgia](#): > > Yeah, but that was a stupid-smart gap, not a lib-con gap. C’mon, given the “liberals think conservatives are stoopid” meme, the joke was obvious enough that _somebody_ was required to do it. > [@](#): > > And even then the premise is stupid. \ Whatever. Anyhoo, Kornbluth was still a better writer than you or I will ever be. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/26 "2006-08-23T19:16:30Z")
> [@Sunrazor](#): > > Actually, Razorette and I have two sons. Fine young men. \They’re intelligent and in the process of becoming well-educated, and neither is hobbled by complex superstition systems, Sounds to me like they are more likely to be libertarian to conservative types. You did say they can think for themselves, right? ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/27 "2006-08-23T19:21:26Z")
> [@Weirddave](#): > > Sounds to me like they are more likely to be libertarian to conservative types. You did say they can think for themselves, right? Damn it, who ate my smilie? There was supposed to be a 😛 at the end of this. ---
**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/28 "2006-08-23T19:22:21Z")
> [@AskNott](#): > > While I don’t question your call on this, I think **Bear Nenno** ’s personal trash talk merits a warning, too. I saw Bear’s comments as attacking an entire group of people, not a personal insult. It was provocative and inflammatory, yes, but no worse than many other “group-directed” insults tossed about on these boards without repercussion. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/29 "2006-08-23T19:33:41Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Actually, **Dio** , if you’d had read the article: > > I’m doing my part to raise my kidlets to be good little libertarian-conservatives. I’m sure you’re diong your part to raise your kidlets to be good little liberals. I’m doing my best not to impose any political ideology on them at all. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/30 "2006-08-23T19:37:09Z")
> [@SkipMagic](#): > > **Diogenes** , personal insults are not allowed outside the Pit. Please do not do this again. Sorry. When I posted that, I thought I was in the Pit for some reason. Sloppy browsing. My bad. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/31 "2006-08-23T20:47:32Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > I’m doing my best not to impose any political ideology on them at all. It comes through, believe me. They’re like sponges. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/32 "2006-08-24T22:27:58Z")
> [@Hunter Hawk](#): > > C’mon, given the “liberals think conservatives are stoopid” meme, the joke was obvious enough that _somebody_ was required to do it. > \ Whatever. Anyhoo, Kornbluth was still a better writer than you or I will ever be. Yeah, the story was entertaining. And “stupid” was too strong a word for the premise. However, the story implied that intelligence is correlated with income level, something I don’t think is true. ---
**Author:** ![SlowMindThinking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@SlowMindThinking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlowMindThinking)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/33 "2006-08-24T22:51:55Z")
> [@Larry Borgia](#): > > Yeah, the story was entertaining. And “stupid” was too strong a word for the premise. However, the story implied that intelligence is correlated with income level, something I don’t think is true. Actually, one defense of doing something silly like claiming a single number, called the IQ, is a measure of your intelligence is that it is the best predictor of income level - even within a family. (I’m not defending that position, it is just one that has been tossed out at me.) Come to think of it, I’m more conservative than most Dopers, and I one the “most of” thread a while back for most kids. I probably still end up as liberal on most polls, though. ---
**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/34 "2006-08-25T01:24:25Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > I’m doing my best not to impose any political ideology on them at all. I admire the sentiment in one respect, but it’s just impossible. You can’t possibly present the situation without leaning to one side. And overall, that’s ok. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/35 "2006-08-25T03:54:00Z")
What’s that old saying… What’s a conservative? A liberal who has kids! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/36 "2006-08-25T03:57:25Z")
> [@Phase42](#): > > What’s that old saying… What’s a conservative? A liberal who has kids! Didn’t work for me. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/37 "2006-08-25T13:47:13Z")
Y’know, I’m fairly liberal and everything; I won’t vote for conservatives or Republicans or whatever - my choice, of course. And I expect everyone else to do the same, whether they’re conservative, liberal or whatever. Why does this simple choice have to permeate your other life choices? Why does the minutest factoid that allegedly correlates with some political ideology or other have to turn into a nasty partisan bickerfest? I already know part of the answer, that humans are wired to be evangelical about their choices/opinions as some silly form of validation, but why can we not step back, recognize this for what it is, and move on? Being distracted by this kind of bullshit is precisely what the people who depend on our inaction to survive want. Don’t give it to them. (yeah, I know; _Them_, ooooh!) ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/38 "2006-08-25T13:59:14Z")
Hmmm. My Dad went from conservative (voted for Goldwater) to the most liberal of Dems today. My mother has always been a liberal. I am liberal, Husband is a moderate GOP–but all 3 kids are liberal. (see, replaced us + one). I think it has more to do with SES–aren’t more highly educated people more likely to use birth control, marry later and have fewer, if any, kids? (gross generalization here re liberals being wealthier overall). Also, those oh so red states–mostly Bible belt, no? So perhaps there is limited access to abortion clinics, birth control and maybe even cultural pressures? I’m just speculating. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/39 "2006-08-25T14:03:51Z")
> [@Sunrazor](#): > > I have a suspicion that, when food gets hard to find, gasoline is a thing of the past and sunscreen SPF numbers are three digits, there will be a lot more environmental liberals than there are now. Well, actually, you’ll probably have a lot more ethnic and racial division as people start choosing up sides to compete for scarce resources. Liberalism, environmental or otherwise, will be a luxury many if not most people will decide they can’t afford. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783/40 "2006-08-25T15:15:39Z")
> [@Phase42](#): > > What’s that old saying… What’s a conservative? A liberal who has kids! The way I heard it, it’s a liberal who’s been mugged. 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-liberals-better-get-f-king/369783.md?page=3)