# You like the show, but hate the lead

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 12, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-like-the-show-but-hate-the-lead/793401 "2017-08-12T02:44:36Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-like-the-show-but-hate-the-lead/793401/21 "2017-08-14T17:16:14Z")

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While I think “hate” is too strong of a word in both my examples …

I liked Malcolm in the Middle, but wasn’t particularly fond of Frankie Muniz. I also liked watching Fear Factor, even though the host, Joe Rogan, got on my nerves.

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**Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-like-the-show-but-hate-the-lead/793401/22 "2017-08-14T17:37:04Z")

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> [@KatTP](#):
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> I liked **how I met your mother.** Really hated Teb Mosby.

Yes

> [@Telperion](#):
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> The later seasons of \*\*Scrubs \*\*had the same problem. Show was awesome, but JD sucked.

Yes

As for **Brooklyn 99** , I wasn’t going to watch it when I first saw it was an Andy Samberg show but I tuned in and it’s one of my favorites. He is great in the role and the supporting cast is top notch!

I wasn’t going to watch _Full Frontal with Samantha Bee_ because I didn’t care for her on _The Daily Show_ but I gave it a shot and it turns out her show is absolutely amazing!

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**Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-like-the-show-but-hate-the-lead/793401/23 "2017-08-14T18:14:15Z")

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[quote=“Annie-Xmas, post:20, topic:793401”]

2 1/2 Men anyone? Proof that anyone can star in a TV show with the right supporting cast.

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I just watched a couple of episodes of 2 1/2 Men yesterday. The first time in years and I was surprised at how funny Sheen is on the show. The show would be nothing without him.

And I did watch when Kutcher took over and the show totally sucked with him instead of Sheen.

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**Post date:** [August 14, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-like-the-show-but-hate-the-lead/793401/24 "2017-08-14T23:54:10Z")

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I liked Grey’s Anatomy but didn’t like Meredith.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-like-the-show-but-hate-the-lead/793401/25 "2017-08-15T02:57:57Z")

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> [@KatTP](#):
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> I liked how I met your mother. Really hated Teb Mosby.

This the first show that came to mind.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-like-the-show-but-hate-the-lead/793401/26 "2017-08-15T03:25:00Z")

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The show doesn’t exactly have a single lead but Tricia Helfer (Number Six) in Battlestar Galactica. She performed well as an actress, but her characters are overused and often more annoying than anything. I guess the writers felt obligated to give her lots of screen time because she’s very attractive and the main figure in a lot of promotional media. But it’s often well in excess of what the plot demands IMHO. Easily one of the show’s weakest points.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-like-the-show-but-hate-the-lead/793401/27 "2017-08-16T17:35:06Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> I can’t stand Andy Samberg, so I avoided Brooklyn Nine-Nine for years. However, the presence of Terry Crews and Andre Braugher got the better of me, and then I fell in love with Stephanie Beatriz. So, despite Samberg but because of Crews, “Diaz,” and the Captain, I watch it. Do you have shows like that?

So is the lead actor or the lead character the problem? I have no problem with Lauren Graham but really didn’t care for Lorelai Gilmore - I watched the show for most everyone else.

I’ll risk being labeled a blasphemer and say I wasn’t a big fan of the Buffy character on BTVS - Hannigan’s Willow was my favorite. But SMG was a great actress, and I still can’t believe nothing else she’s done has caught on.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-like-the-show-but-hate-the-lead/793401/28 "2017-08-16T17:42:09Z")

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> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#):
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> Colin Baker on **Doctor Who**.

Doctor Who probably needs its own category entirely, which it can share with James Bond.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-like-the-show-but-hate-the-lead/793401/29 "2017-08-16T18:14:17Z")

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I like The Office, but don’t really like Michael Scott.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-like-the-show-but-hate-the-lead/793401/30 "2017-08-16T18:20:37Z")

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Though I’m about one season behind, I like _Gotham_ despite the sorely miscast Ben McKenzie as Jim Gordon. How he got that role I’ll never know.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-like-the-show-but-hate-the-lead/793401/31 "2017-08-16T20:40:27Z")

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> [@TreacherousCretin](#):
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> Loved the first few seasons of “Roseanne” but have never been able to stomach the woman herself. She was the weakest link in the onscreen cast.

As actors most of them weren’t great except Laurie Mercalf and John Goodman. Rosanne did get better as an actor as it went along but was never great. I can’t stand her and never liked her stand up but the show was great and as the character she worked well in it.

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