You might need that one day.....hoarding.

I’d like to point out here that donating books to the library DOESN’T necessarily mean that the library will have that copy, or any copy of that book, if you want to read it again. At my public library, all donated books are sold. Even the ones that are on the “buy for the collection” list get sold and then bought from somewhere else. And, of course, libraries cull their collections, too.

Don’t count on being able to find a book at a used book store, either. If it’s a classic that’s frequently assigned for classes, yeah, the book store might buy it if they get it in. But if it’s an old favorite of yours, the store might have a policy of not buying nonclassic older books.

I don’t mind keeping odds and ends if there’s a chance we’ll use them - hell, I’ve found the odd useful screw or coil of wire or other hardware item when I needed it! But really - THREE ripsaws? There’s the rusty one, the one with the loose handle, and the one we bought because the other two are useless. So can I throw those two away? No!

The two boxes of VHS tapes in the garage, many of them shows we taped off the TV? Nope, can’t possibly toss those - we might not be able to get them on DVD! The boxes of kids’ toys that the actual grown kids don’t want? No - there might be things in there that they’ll want when they have kids!

My take on it is that if we can’t find a particular item because we just have too much stuff to go through, then it’s the same thing as not having that item. It would make more sense to just clear out the junk and start fresh rather than keep everything “just in case” when you consider that the sheer mass of items keeps us from finding anything at all.

But we’re lucky enough to have a pretty big house and a garage we don’t park in, so it’s worth keeping boxes of junk just to maintain domestic tranquility. If we ever have to downsize, that’s when the fireworks will start.

What happens to all the unused and unloved ERASER NUMBS? :confused:

No.

I don’t understand why people feel that throwing something out is an accomplishment.

This.

We also have a garage (we don’t need it for the car) but to find anything in there is a nightmare. There’s three whipper-snippers (only one works) two lawn-mowers (again, only one goes) and various other bits of machinery that is only useful for the metal-recyclers. My SO bought a whole shitload of handtools last October at a community garage sale, and they still sit propped up against the house where he’d put them after taking them out of the car. They have never been used and are slowly rusting away, but to suggest perhaps we might get rid of them? Oh, the humanity! :rolleyes:

Because hoarders think that keeping things to the extent that you’re near-literally buried in never-used items is a virtue.

Rosencrantz is, thankfully, finally available on DVD as of a few years ago.

JSexton, I have the original Star Wars Trilogy on VHS as well. I watched Return of the Jedi with my eleven year old nephew, and he noticed, right at the end, that it was an older Anakin “ghost” that appeared. And he noticed the different music, and that some of the galactic celebration scenes weren’t in the tape.

I don’t know if he’s watched Star Wars, and knows about the “Han shot first” issue.

Yes, that’s what happens if you fail to dispose of everything that is not an immediate necessity.

But if you have the space, and if the item is somewhere that you can find it, the marginal cost of keeping it is very low, and the irritation of having to go buy something (an hour minimum) against the satisfaction of having the item to hand when required right now tips the balance in favour of keeping it.

Absolutely - OP should dump it secretly, otherwise the hoardster is going to conjurer up some reason to need it once he knows it’s gone.

My motto is ‘If it’s that importan we can get another one’, provided it is, indeed, something that can be readily purchased and isn’t inordinately expensive. That still leaves a lot of boxes full of ‘personal’ stuff, though.

On the flip side, MrTao had to throw out literally DECADES worth of various porn magazines this weekend. Even in a place where it never, ever rains, storage units just don’t really protect paper very well. :stuck_out_tongue:

On the sadder side is all the comics were toast, too. :frowning:

Ever watch the show Hoarders? Seriously, sometimes, it IS.

Oh yeah, that would be the perfect solution, especially if the OP doesn’t want to continue the relationship.

I think the thing is that some people identify with their possessions so much, that the threat of losing some thing (however useless) is perceived as an actual threat upon themselves and their very being. I certainly think that is the case with my SO…the hole-punch represents to him a time in his life when he was active in study and employment, and now in his retirement (when such things as hole-punches are just a waste of space) he still connects to those previous times.

And, y’know, that’s ok and all, but it sometimes gets to the point where EVERY SINGLE THING is claimed to represent some past memory or glory. And that’s where I think it becomes a pathology rather than just holding onto something useful, valuable or with true sentimental worth.

(He’s gone away for a few days…I might just dump the hole-punch somewhere).

:smiley:

I remember my uncle, he filled a house with his hoarding then bought the house next door and filled that as well. Then he moved in with his mom (my grandma) and filled her house.
Sad.

My uncle filled his house, bought a mobile home, filled it, and bought one more mobile home - it’s uninhabitable now, too. Uncle John now lives a nomadic life, bunking at this buddy’s or that one’s for a few days, popping up at Mom’s house as long as she can stand him, or my house on occasion, repeat cycle. He also buys vehicles, fills them with his “treasures” and bargains and a zillion free newspapers, and then parks them at his house(s). The last time I drove by, I counted 14 cars and trucks, plus two travel trailers, a horse trailer, and a Winnebago. All full of crap.

It’s very sad in theory. In practice, knowing that he refuses to acknowledge the problem, nor to accept any help (practical or psychiatric,) it’s a gigantic pain in the ass. He’s in his 70s now, and it will fall on my mom, my brother, and me to deal with the Mountain o’ Random Crap in the foreseeable future. I hope we can borrow a dump truck from my other uncle when that time comes.

That said, my whole family, including hubby and I, have hoarding tendencies. Tony and I are trying to get better. Especially once we realized that we will be the primary heirs of all the crap our parents have accumulated through the years. I’m better about getting rid of the sentimental stuff - things aren’t sacred just because my granny once breathed on them, so pick out the truly meaningful items - but I’m terrible about the potentially useful stuff. And books. And kitchen stuff. And shoes. Purses too. :slight_smile:

For some people, like me, minimalism is a downright practical lifestyle choice. I move a lot, I can only afford to rent, and I’ve never had a space of my very own. When I move, I can only rely on myself because I’m single, my mother is disabled, my father is estranged, and my sister lives 2000 miles away. When a person needs to be highly-mobile and intensely self-reliant, stuff without an immediate practical use becomes a liability. Therefore, I live a relatively spartan life. All of my entire life’s belongings and furniture (except my car) fit comfortably into a room that’s less than 150 square feet in size. I don’t have anywhere to put a bunch of random gewgaws, so I’m not tempted to shop for them in the first place. And because I live on a relatively tight budget, money saved is more valuable than the unnecessary stuff it could purchase. It’s also easier (psychologically) to refrain from accumulating unnecessary shit in the first place than it is to battle with throwing it out later. So, by continuously minimizing my possessions, I’m also making life easier for my future self.

Obviously, most people do not live in the dangerous and disgustingly abysmal conditions showcased in squalor-pornography like A&E’s Hoarders. But squalor doesn’t develop overnight, or even over a year. It develops through many years of reluctance to throw away minor, unimportant, irrelevant, totally unused, forgotten items. The problem is not with one particular 3-hole punch, it’s about how the reluctance to throw away something SO unimportant reflects a greater inability to dispatch with the unnecessary. Later in life, it could become a real problem–by which time the hoarder is too set in their ways and potentially too mobility-impaired to fix it.

Honestly, sentimental attachment to inanimate objects is fine–in moderation. If a person has proven they cannot exercise moderation, then they need to cultivate a limiting factor besides the number of cubic feet in their home. Therapy is the optimal solution, but many hoarders are therapy-resistant. So a relative who stops them from buying frivolities or throws out things behind their back may be the only thing keeping them from becoming a squalor-case. Hoarding is expensive (both fiscally and psychologically) and, left unchecked, it can cause public health hazards. Hoarding can also ruin relationships with partners and children, because the person chooses things over people. And when a hoarder dies, their surviving relatives will be faced with the prospect of spending dozens of man-hours or thousands of dollars on the cleanup.

From a utilitarian perspective, there are lots of practical reasons why throwing away the 3-hole punch is good. There are only a couple reasons why keeping it is ok. It doesn’t provide utility and hasn’t for years. It’s taking up space. It’s cheap to replace, on the rare chance it becomes necessary later. It’d be different if it had extrinsic value–is it a collector’s piece? Is it a family heirloom? Is it physically irreplaceable? If not, let it go.

Relevant pithicism: “The things you own… end up owning you.” -Tyler Durden, Fight Club

If I’m a hoarder it’s the very lowest level . I’m definitely a saver of things. Throughout the last 15 years, in two different marriages we were always “going to get a house next year” so I’ve saved items that I wanted to have in my three bedroom house with a finished basement, a garage, and attic storage.

Now, on my own, I’ve come to realize I will not be buying a house any time soon. I need to/can keep only the stuff that fits in my 2 bedroom, tiny closet having apartment.

I’ve lined one wall of the living room with bookcases. That is all the space I’m allowed to fill with books. That was hard for me at first, but between the library, ebooks, used book stores, and Book Mooch I am never going to run out of things to read.

And I use a hole punch daily at work…

Yes, I have hoarder tendencies. But I don’t usually buy stuff at random (except books sometimes), and I do dispose of things from time to time.

[rant]But what annoys me with some of the posts here (and elsewhere) is the constant use of phrases like “throw it away”, “toss it out”, and “chuck it”. Those all suggest that if I don’t need it, the landfill is its proper place.

That paper punch from the OP is not apparently trash - it’s just something the OP doesn’t want. Sell it, donate it, recycle it, give it away. Find it a new home instead of wasting it. [/rant]

(There! I feel better!)