# You miserable poseurs and pretenders!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 11, 2002, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967 "2002-04-11T03:26:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/41 "2002-04-11T18:12:47Z")

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> Make a margarita with a Cantera Tequila and Courvoissier (Cantera’s a decent 100% aged blue agave Mexican tequila) and make another with Jose Cuervo, and Joaquin’s Triple sec.
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> It is not easy to tell which is which because of the overpowering taste of the lime. In fact, your limes are going to be the key factor in the quality of your margarita, not how much you paid for the tequila.

Not true. Particuarly if you’re making one margarita with tequila and **cognac** , as you appear to be doing. (I think what you wanted was “Cointreau”.) 😉 If the lime is overpowering, you are adding too much, IMHO. You’re supposed to taste the tequila, triple sec and lime in approximately equal balance.

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**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/42 "2002-04-11T18:33:04Z")

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oh my god! whose music is that? its… its… THE FREAKIN MARGARITA CONTROVERSY’S music! oh, the humanity!

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/43 "2002-04-11T19:02:42Z")

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I live thirty miles from the Rolling Rock brewery in Latrobe PA (oh shit, have I given out too much personal info?)

Anyway, you all can have it. I can go there and get it cheap and fresh and to me, it still tastes disgusting. I’d rather have a Tetley’s. Because it tastes better. Because that quaint little Rolling Rock in the green bottle with the 33 on the back tastes … like I’m licking sweat off of someone’s ass.

I despise Rolling Rock because, well, after the multitude of years of exposure I’ve had to it, I have yet to get a bottle that doesn’t taste like dung.

If it’s hot, and I’m trying to cool off, please give me a Corona with a lime in it or a plain ol’ Tetley’s.

What’s really funny is that many of the people I know where I live, having grown up near the Rolling Rock brewery and had case after case of the stuff around us forever just don’t get why people like it. I’ve been places and seen it described as a ‘fine beer made in the quaint little town of Latrobe’ and I wonder - do they like it because it’s currently vogue to dig things that are ‘quaint’ and from ‘cute little towns’?

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**Author:** ![hudley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@hudley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hudley)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/44 "2002-04-11T20:23:19Z")

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Catsix, the funny thing about your post is that in Mexico, no one will touch a Corona! It’s the cheapest, weakest beer made there(except for Pacifico) and is considered only worthy of the yuppie gringos that drink it. Any beer that comes in a clear bottle is made for presentation, not for flavor. Sunlight is what makes beer skunky, so that clear bottle is a death sentence. I like Corona ok, if there isn’t a Tecate, a Modelo, Bohemia (really good) Negra Modelo, or a Dos Equis handy. Back in my college days in the 80s you could pick up a case at the border for $5 bucks or so.

I’m not knocking your taste in beer, to each his own. Me, sometimes I get a hankering for a particular beer for no reason, even RR. Of course once I drink it I remember why it has been so long since the last one!

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**Author:** ![cercaria](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/87869e/32.png) [@cercaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cercaria)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/45 "2002-04-11T20:42:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Scylla \*  
> **Lobster is cheap. Eat them now. Twenty years from now they’ll be too expensive to eat or a protected species.**

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> \*Originally posted by JavaMaven1 \*  
> \*\*Same goes for Chilean Sea Bass.  
> Same goes for Swordfish.  
> Same goes for Ahi Tuna.  
> We are overfishing our oceans and depleting them by our quest for these items. Enjoy them now before they go onto endangered lists. \*\*

OR, how about simply doing without NOW instead of pushing the populations closer and closer to qualifying for endangered status? Maybe I’m being naive, but it just seems safer for the species if people would stop chowing down on them now instead of waiting until the creatures are in danger of becoming extinct.

I guess that’s just a pipe dream, though, since restaurants will keep serving the things until people stop asking for it and/or the goverment makes them. ☹

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/46 "2002-04-11T20:44:04Z")

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> Me, sometimes I get a hankering for a particular beer for no reason, even RR. Of course once I drink it I remember why it has been so long since the last one!

This is very true. I **still** have the horrible Corona hankering that I had this morning.

I know it is not good beer. I can go to my bodega and get excellent Negre Modelo instead.

And I don’t always want strong beer, either. I usually go for anything dark and heavy, but today the sun is out, it’s a little warm, and I feel like something damned near water.

As for Rolling Rock, I don’t give a shit where it’s made. I drink it if I want alcoholic sprite. Well, alcoholic sprite that is more palatable than the _real_ yuppie losers like Smirnoff Ice. Ugh. I think Skyy makes one of those now, too.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/47 "2002-04-11T20:44:51Z")

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Several Chicago restaurants have voluntarily taken Chilean Sea Bass of the menu until populations recover.

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**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/48 "2002-04-11T20:49:18Z")

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> _originally posted by catsix_  
> What’s really funny is that many of the people I know where I live, having grown up near the Rolling Rock brewery and had case after case of the stuff around us forever just don’t get why people like it. I’ve been places and seen it described as a  
> ‘fine beer made in the quaint little town of Latrobe’ and I wonder - do they like it because it’s currently vogue to dig things that are ‘quaint’ and from ‘cute little towns’?

No, I just like it, it’s my favorite cheap beer. Some of my friends can’t stand it. Ho hum.

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**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/49 "2002-04-11T20:59:50Z")

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Am I revealing that I know nothing about beer by stating that I’ll take a Sam Adams over anything else?

Oh, and **Fenris** - the Outbacks out here on the East Coast have never been anything but good to me.  
And definitely what **Scylla** said on the seafood. You want seafood, in a couple months get yerself down here to Maryland and get some crab before harvest limits start setting in again.

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**Author:** ![hudley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@hudley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hudley)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/50 "2002-04-11T21:00:02Z")

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“No, I just like it, it’s my favorite cheap beer.”

You know, that is what is really funny about little local beers that find a distribution channel outside their “known” range. All of a sudden they become imports or microbrews.

When I was in college a pitcher of Shiner bock cost $2.25 (budweiser was $2.85) at happy hour. Last year I got to tour the brewery. I asked about the change in marketing, and about them now selling it out of state. They told me that when they stopped competing on price and raised the price, they sold more beer. Now I pay a dollar more a six pack for Shiner/Shiner Bock than I do for Bud. The other thing I asked them about was the old Shiner Premium I remembered, and that all of a sudden they started selling something called Shiner Blonde where I live but it didn’t seem quite the same (I live out of state now, and hadn’t had a “real” Shiner in 10 years). They told me that they just took advantage of the microbrew thang, and changed “Shiner Premium” to “Shiner Blonde”, and voila, double the sales again!!

Now, for a rotgut beer that enjoys a wide distribution due only to it’s name, please let me introduce… LONE STAR!!! Calling this swill pisswater is an insult to pisswater.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/51 "2002-04-11T21:25:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by catsix \*  
> \*\*I despise Rolling Rock because, well, after the multitude of years of exposure I’ve had to it, I have yet to get a bottle that doesn’t taste like dung.
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> If it’s hot, and I’m trying to cool off, please give me a Corona with a lime in it or a plain ol’ Tetley’s. \*\*

Corona reminds me of piss; I really can’t handle the stuff. Rolling Rock isn’t a brand I prefer but it tastes better than Corona to me.

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/52 "2002-04-11T21:49:55Z")

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**hudley** : My Corona has to be doped with lime or I don’t want it. Corona makes good lime-flavored beer, but it makes for really shitty beer-flavored beer.

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/53 "2002-04-11T22:13:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by dalovindj \*  
> Many, many times I have seen someone pour a glass of water that is at first as white as milk. Whatever causes this white look settles down and the water becomes clear within a few minutes. While the water may settle, I’ll not drink anything that is supposed to be clear and started out milky white.

Yep, used to get this when I lived in the city. As someone else mentioned, it’s just air. We called it “magic water”.

And here’s another former Western Pennsylvanian who thinks that Rolling Rock is for chumps. Nasty stuff. 33 – pfft.

Also, I cannot say enough good things about Yuengling. Just wish I could get it down here. Any driving trips I make back up to PA, I always smuggle several cases of it down with me. OK, I just put it in the back of the car, but I like to call it smuggling because I fancy myself an outlaw.

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**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/54 "2002-04-11T22:20:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by hudley \*  
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> Now, for a rotgut beer that enjoys a wide distribution due only to it’s name, please let me introduce… LONE STAR!!! Calling this swill pisswater is an insult to pisswater. \*\*

**hudley** , that sounds like Rainier beer. Truly vile. Ever tried Buckhorn?

**John Corrado** , you are an appreciator of fine brew if you like Sam Adams, but Rolling Rock’s cheaper (and not nearly as tasty).

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2002, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/55 "2002-04-11T23:37:58Z")

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Actually, the truth is that Corona is shitty pretentious beer. Sure, it’s drinkable with a lime. So’s urine.

It’s expensive pretentious, and bad. Too much bite for the little flavor.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/56 "2002-04-12T00:12:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Scylla \*  
> Actually, the truth is that Corona is shitty pretentious beer. Sure, it’s drinkable with a lime. So’s urine.
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> It’s expensive pretentious, and bad. Too much bite for the little flavor.

Agreed. It’s a remarkably flavorless beer.

On the other hand, Pacifico is not a bad Mexican brew, though hardly my favorite beer, period.

- Tamerlane

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/57 "2002-04-12T00:52:46Z")

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Water snobs are what kill me the most. They are paying X amount of money for…water.

Christ on a Crutch, that just cracks me up. For all it could be is Fred and Ethel garden hose water.

Me, I prefer my well water. It’s got arsenic. No really, it does. I’m presently typing with the third arm growing out of forehead.  
Excellent Rant Scylla.

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/58 "2002-04-12T00:52:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by P.T. Smegma \*  
> \*\ ***hudley** , that sounds like Rainier beer. Truly vile. Ever tried Buckhorn?  
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Big Truck crawling up the mountain: **Bud! Buuud!**  
Motorcycle whipping around the truck as it races uphill: _ **RRRAaaaaaiiiii Nnniiieeeeerrr BEEEEeeeeeerrr!** _

Great commercial. Crappy piss-water beer.

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**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/59 "2002-04-12T01:21:34Z")

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> Yep, used to get this when I lived in the city. As someone else mentioned, it’s just air. We called it “magic water”.

It still seems a little strange. I prefer to came my gasses and liquids seperated . . .

DaLovin’ Dj

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**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/60 "2002-04-12T01:24:10Z")

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I like to _keep_ my gasses and liquids separated. That’s a bizzarre typo. It must have been all the talk of harmless milky white liquids.

DaLovin Dj

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