# You miserable poseurs and pretenders! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 11, 2002, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967 "2002-04-11T03:26:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/61 "2002-04-12T02:04:19Z")
Corona? Expensive? Pretentious? _Bite_? What planet are you people on? I guess I have been living in Dominican/Mexican/Puerto Rican neighborhoods for too long. ---
**Author:** ![celestina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/258eb7/32.png) [@celestina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/celestina)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/62 "2002-04-12T02:28:59Z")
If liking what I like makes me a poseur/pretender, then fine. So be it. šŸ˜› I donā€™t care for Crapplebys, OutSaltback, Sizzzzzzzzler, the OliveSaltGarden, Taco Hell, MacSalt&Greasealds, Burger Crap, and so on. Granted, I donā€™t frequent these places often, but the few times I have, the food was not all that good. It was too salty, sometimes too tough to chew, and sometimes I did not feel well after eating this stuff. [shudder] But if folks like food from these places, thatā€™s fine by me. I hope they enjoy it, and Iā€™m not being snobby if I say I donā€™t like it. I just canā€™t stomach the taste of the food. [shrug] I like fresh ingredients in food that is prepared simply. I donā€™t want bland food, but I donā€™t want the integrity of the main ingredients to be overwhelmed with salt or spicy peppers. Thatā€™s just right suspicious to me. Iā€™m not too keen on using that much salt because that just masks the natural flavors that one should be tasting from food that should be fresh. Of course, Iā€™m spoiled too. Iā€™d much rather stay home and eat my momā€™s cooking. Yum. Sheā€™s a master cook, and she _loves_ to cook. šŸ˜ƒ Or, Iā€™ll try my hand at cooking something. Thatā€™s not to say that I donā€™t go out and find local restaurants where the food does meet my taste buds. I do. And they are moderately priced. Iā€™ve not personally frequented expensive restaurants, but I have friends who have and who have complained when theyā€™ve spent a small fortune on a meal that was substandard. I donā€™t care if sushiā€™s out or in or on the moon. I still like it and will continue to eat it. šŸ˜ƒ I donā€™t care if itā€™s expensive or cheap, I ainā€™t eating any lobster. I think itā€™s just awful how folks cook those poor creatures. ā˜¹ Oddly, Corona with lime will do in a pinch, and Pacifico wasnā€™t too bad IIRC. Still, I donā€™t like Budweiser, and Rolling Rock tastes like bitter I-donā€™t-know-what. Oh god, one time I tried Miller Genuine Light Draft or some shit like thatā€“I canā€™t recall the name, but I know it was Millerā€“and I really thought I was going to toss my cookies after one sip of that stuff. Whoo, I really donā€™t understand how my friends, who can and do appreciate beers with substance (e.g. Guiness), can tolerate that stuff. But okay. I know I _canā€™t_ do so. Iā€™m not being snobby. I just donā€™t like how these beers taste. I drink imports/foreign beers and wines, but I also drink beers and wines made in the US by US companies. [shrug] One of the best bottles of wine Iā€™ve had so far cost me $4-5 dollars. Maybe the reason I enjoyed it so much was because I didnā€™t pay that much for it, but it really was delicious. But Iā€™ve had $50 wines before and enjoyed those immensely too; they were just a different tasting experience. I still donā€™t understand how folks go pricing these wines, though. Iā€™ll see a wine that costs $50 dollars, but itā€™s rated low, but then Iā€™ll see a wine thatā€™s rated high, and it costs $10, and vice versa. Itā€™s the same grape ainā€™t it? šŸ˜• I donā€™t care for musicals. They just get on my last nerve. Are you going to sing and dance, or just act? Make up your damn mind already! When Iā€™m thirsty, I just want some water. Whether itā€™s from the tap or in bottle doesnā€™t really matter. I want it to taste good and quench my thirst. Likewise, I want a car that will be reliable. I donā€™t care what itā€™s called or what it looks like. I havenā€™t been able to figure out watches yet. Friend of mine swears by his $3000 Rodo (Spelling?). One of the best ones I had was a cheapo $4 quartz thing out of the Kmart. That thing lasted me for years. Iā€™ve since had Fossil and some of them other designer watches, and after the initial battery quit, that was it. But, Scylla, you mean to tell me you ainā€™t going to get your little girl one of them befandangled watches you said you was going to get for your son? I think she and Mrs. Scylla might have something to say about that. šŸ™‚ Well, Iā€™ve probably rambled enough. [giggle] I sure had fun rantinā€™ though. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/63 "2002-04-12T02:37:59Z")
Celestina: Who do you think your fooling? Who are you trying to impress with all those smilies? I know you donā€™t really mean them. Youā€™re just using them so that other people will think youā€™re with it, arenā€™t you? ---
**Author:** ![celestina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/258eb7/32.png) [@celestina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/celestina)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/64 "2002-04-12T03:06:32Z")
**Scylla** , hon, donā€™t you worry none. I ainā€™t trying to fool nobody. I _am_ with it. I just gots it like that. You know? šŸ†’ [giggle] I hadnā€™t used that smilie yet. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/65 "2002-04-12T09:35:39Z")
Of course _real_ self-confidence, poise and taste is not having to preach to _others_ about self-confidence, poise and taste. _Nā€™est-ce pas_, **Scylla**? pan ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/66 "2002-04-12T11:07:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by celestina \* > \*\*Friend of mine swears by his $3000 Rodo (Spelling?). \*\* [Rado](http://www.rado.com/flash.asp), probably? ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/67 "2002-04-12T12:06:01Z")
[ul] [li]A good manager and fresh produce can mean the difference between good and really really bad at a chain restaurant.[/li] [li]Was there ever a cat so clever as Magical Mister Mistoffelees? Sorry. _Cats_ sucked.[/li] [li]You spent close to _three grand_ on a watch? :eek: [/li] [li]Hi Opal![/li] [li]What about the idiots whoā€™ll spend $15 on a bottle of shampoo because itā€™s sold at their _salon_? I laugh at those people. Sodium laurel sulfate by any other name is stillā€¦ sodium laurel sulfate. [/li] [/ul] ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/68 "2002-04-12T12:12:40Z")
I get my shampoo for pretty close to free. How? Well, I buy the stuff thatā€™s always on the 2 for the price of 1 sale if you have your little card at the grocery store (which I always do), and I cut the coupons out of the Sunday paper. So I go to the grocery store, I pick up two bottles of shampoo for 1.99. The grocery store doubles my 99 cent coupon and I take home my two bottles of shampoo for a net price of .005/bottle. It smells good, and it causes my hair to be clean. As opposed to buying a $30 bottle of shampoo at the salon that smells like a chemical waste dump, itā€™s a wonderful deal. ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/69 "2002-04-12T12:59:34Z")
Did somebody just speak? I canā€™t see anything though all this damn tangled hair. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/70 "2002-04-12T13:40:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Scylla \* > \*\*Pretenders and poseurs always piss me off with their snobbish disdain. > > Back to cooking. Fresh ingrediants people! Usually the best food you can possibly make is with the cheap local ingrediants. Donā€™t spend money on inferior ingrediants when you have quality to work with right where you are. I think this may be the most important point of your rant. Your cooking will improve 100% if you learn how to cook in season and learn how to use fresh ingredients. > [@](#): > > Truffles are worth every penny, but Foie gras is overrated pretension. Itā€™s just ok. Disagree. Actually, goose liver is pretty cheap (relatively speaking) here in Hungary and, with France, produces the worldā€™s best quality goose livers. Actually, if there is a problem with foie gras, itā€™s how the geese are handled to achieve gigantic livers (read: force-fed.) But as for taste, I love foie gras, and regularly prepare it myself. > [@](#): > > When youā€™re hot sweaty and dirty, Coors lite or Bush is the best beer. I would substitute ā€œBudā€ or ā€œMillerā€ for your choices. I have (honestly) never been able to finish a can of Busch or Coors lite, and I have tried many, many times in college. Blehā€¦ Re: Heineken. The Heineken you get in the States is crap beer. I think the same of Becks. I think Sam Adams has the best lager, period. (Heineken in Holland is vastly different. Really, I would swear itā€™s not the same beer. It comes in a brown bottle to start with, and actually has flavor.) > [@](#): > > Great Sushi is worth every penny. Iā€™m sure it is, but I just canā€™t get the hang of sushi. Iā€™ve had it half a dozen times, and just think that itā€™s OK. I donā€™t mind the concept at all; it just doesnā€™t do it for me. Great rant overall, **Scylla**! ---
**Author:** ![celestina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/258eb7/32.png) [@celestina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/celestina)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/71 "2002-04-12T17:24:42Z")
**Coldfire** , thank you, darlinā€™. It probably is Rado. I know he said itā€™s a Swiss watch. I just canā€™t keep track of all fancy-shmancy gadgets and things that are out nowadays. šŸ™‚ **Pundit Lisa** , oh heavens no! _I_ canā€™t afford to buy a $3K watch. My friendā€™s the one who has it. I think he got it as a gift. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2002, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/72 "2002-04-13T00:37:52Z")
catsix, I bow before you. The _former_ Coupon Queen, Lisa ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2002, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/73 "2002-04-14T07:34:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Scylla \* > > The musical, Cats was good. OK, now youā€™re talking crazyā€¦ Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Already\_in\_Use](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Already\_in\_Use](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Already_in_Use)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2002, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/74 "2002-04-15T05:45:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hamadryad \* > **I have tried, and failed, to enjoy: > [snip] > Reggae** Yeah, how come every reggae song starts with the same stupid drum roll? I mean, using it for a few songs is okay, but EVERY SONG? Come on. > [@](#): > > _ **Wuthering Heights** _ Yeah, why is that book considered such a great work of literature? The whole thing consists basically of, ā€œCatherine! I love you so much I hate you!ā€/ā€œHeathcliff! I hate you so much I love you!ā€ And Iā€™m sick of these tall, dark, grouchy Romantic heroes. Heathcliff, Darby, Rochesterā€¦ in every one of those stupid books from that era thereā€™s one. Where are all the skinny, medium height, Scandinavian heroes, huh? I feel underrepresented. ---
**Author:** ![comradegonzo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@comradegonzo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/comradegonzo)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2002, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/75 "2002-04-16T02:00:03Z")
Hm, my thoughts on the good cheap and the bad expensiveā€¦ where to start? Hm, food. Love the cheapest (tuna in a can) and the most expensive (extremely fiendishly expensive smoked salmon), but not many middle fish. Weird vegetarian stuff is good, yes, im a hypocritical fish eating veggie. Pizza Hut and Red Lobster were god back when i ate cheese [Homer] mmmmm, Chedder Bay Biscuitsā€¦ [/Homer]. I live on peanut butter. Drink: On the one hand, mostly water (Atlanta has great water, too), but then there are the 3 dollar Odwalla chocolate soy-shakes. So, kinda a dichotomy between expensive and cheap. Mostly cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Winnowill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/4491bb/32.png) [@Winnowill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winnowill)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2002, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/76 "2002-04-17T04:18:09Z")
Iā€™m with **Scylla** on the mixing of good liquor. Our drink of choice is, usually, gin. When we make gin & tonics, we use Seagramā€™s Lime Twisted. Itā€™s the cheapest decent brand, and we use a lot of it (we live in the desert - gin & tonics are necessary to maintaining life!) When we make martinis, though, we use GOOD gin: Tanqueray #10, Bombay Sapphire - something like that. Mixing good stuff like that is silly - you canā€™t taste the difference. And I loved _Cats_. If that makes me a cretin, I donā€™t care. ---
**Author:** ![Mersavets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@Mersavets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mersavets)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2002, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/77 "2002-04-17T15:16:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Scylla \* > **McDonaldā€™s sucks at any price.** I hate McDonaldā€™s as much as any other whiny, socialist, anti-imperialism type but in some parts of the world, itā€™s exactly what you need. The horror of the squat toilet is just one more thing I canā€™t be bothered with when Iā€™m tired, hungry and in need of a crap. In these desperate hours, Iā€™ve often turned to Ronald and knew heā€™d have a clean, plastic seat and toilet paper for me. When Iā€™m done (and washed my hands!šŸ˜ƒ ), I can then go and stock up on salt, sugar and teabags. Itā€™s also kind of funny playing McMonopoly in France or buying a McBeer in Spain.šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2002, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/78 "2002-04-18T06:56:52Z")
. > [@](#): > > When I moved to PA, I drank Bud, until I found an excellent local beer, Yuengling, and I drink that. $14 for a case of bottles, and I get a dollar when I bring back the empties. It is a fine and excellent beer. Fresh. Count me as another convert in the Church of Yuengling. Absolutely unbelieveable that a beer can be this damn good. Bad News - Iā€™m in Ohio and there are no distributors. Good News - My bachelor party is this weekend and my brother-in-law from PA is bringing 2 cases. Itā€™ll be a good old fashioned Come to Yuengling Tent Revival!! Oh, and to whomever mentioned Tastykakesā€¦ burn in hell you smarmy bastard for putting into my mind the thought of Tastykakes at 3:00 a.m. EST!!! :wally Mmmmmmā€¦ tastykakesā€¦ delicious chocolate covered cake with layers of peanut buttery goodnessā€¦ (Another PA delight that you cannot find in Columbus, Ohio). Letā€™s seeā€¦ 3:00 a.m., I could be in Pittsburgh by 6:30 a.m. for tastykakes and yuenglingā€¦ nah, back to bed instead. MeanJoe ---
**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2002, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/79 "2002-04-20T03:43:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Enderw24 \* > \*\* > And whatever you do, donā€™t forget the sunscreen. \*\* Ha! ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2002, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967/80 "2002-04-20T19:00:42Z")
**MeanJoe** : If you decide to show up in Pittsburgh, maybe we go have a sammitch at Primantiā€™s nā€™at. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-miserable-poseurs-and-pretenders/102967.md?page=5)