# You Motherfucking Father-Raping White Trash Fuckers In Hayward

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 5, 2005, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-motherfucking-father-raping-white-trash-fuckers-in-hayward/311119 "2005-07-05T05:27:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2005, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-motherfucking-father-raping-white-trash-fuckers-in-hayward/311119/61 "2005-07-10T20:57:39Z")

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That whole area by the bay is pretty bad, and I’ve lived in some of the hardest neighborhoods in San Jose. I was working as an insurance inspector about a month ago, and I cringed whenever I got an order for Mountain View, EPA, and even some parts of Cupertino.

I hope everything ends well for you, Inkleberry. Monday morning you ought to place a phone call to our local renter’s consortium. They will help you out and maybe even apply some pressure on your landlord, who is probably in violation of the law.

If Haywired is in Santa Clara County, go here: [http://www.legalaidsociety.org/housing.html](http://www.legalaidsociety.org/housing.html)  
If not, Alameda County or whatever county you are in will have a Legal Aid Society as well.  
For more info, I believe that the CA Dept. Of Consumer Affairs also has renter info: [www.dca.ca.gov](http://www.dca.ca.gov)

Sam

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**Author:** ![inkleberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f17d59/32.png) [@inkleberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkleberry)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2005, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-motherfucking-father-raping-white-trash-fuckers-in-hayward/311119/62 "2005-07-10T22:53:27Z")

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[QUOTE=GaWd]  
That whole area by the bay is pretty bad, and I’ve lived in some of the hardest neighborhoods in San Jose. I was working as an insurance inspector about a month ago, and I cringed whenever I got an order for Mountain View, EPA, and even some parts of Cupertino.

I hope everything ends well for you, Inkleberry. Monday morning you ought to place a phone call to our local renter’s consortium. They will help you out and maybe even apply some pressure on your landlord, who is probably in violation of the law.

If not, Alameda County or whatever county you are in will have a Legal Aid Society as well.  
For more info, I believe that the CA Dept. Of Consumer Affairs also has renter info: [www.dca.ca.gov](http://www.dca.ca.gov)

Thanks. We already have a private lawyer. We have filed suit against them, and within 24 hours we noticed they were at least superficially beginning to do some work on things. Considering we have pictures from the past few months, it’s not really going to change the court outcome much. Moreover, cleaning the rugs accomplishes jack shit when you have a bit of a boring wasp & termite problem. We’ve filed complaints with the town again (we did so in February as well), but Hayward authorities are remarkably overloaded. We’d optimally like to organize our neighbors for a class action filing, in conjunction with several tenants from other buildings owned by this same company, but we have been encountering some serious language barrier issues, because a great number of the tenants here are from Pakistan and India.

Our water is still on & off, so we’ve been staying in hotels and such. This morning we discovered the pool was overflowing (!), no doubt because a hose has been left on and in the pool for a few days, which explains part of the plumbing issue. The manager was obviously at home but not answering her door, so we “corrected” the issue ourselves. 😃 Let’s just say that the hose is operational, but would require quite an effort to be retrieved from its current location.

Now that we both are going to be working, we’re able to move to a much nicer area. We already have a done deal on a 3 bedroom townhouse on the penninsula, and we’re packing already.

I’m suprised to hear you cringe about Mountain View. Well, I guess sort of surprised. I’ve known people who’ve lived in really nice parts and the, uh, not so nice parts. It’s a _huge_ disparity.

Actually, I’ve found that to be the case all over the Bay Area. Towns tend to have extremes in housing/neighborhood quality- really really nice and expensive or so cruddy Tiajuana looks classy in comparison. And not much in between. And it can change literally by block.Our current place was actually not so bad when we moved in, but around Christmas, it took a nasty dive for the worse. Well, at least we’re out now. 🙂

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-motherfucking-father-raping-white-trash-fuckers-in-hayward/311119/63 "2005-07-11T00:58:15Z")

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The part of MV I’m talking about didn’t even have sidewalks…

And the same thing goes for EPA. Most of it is nice, charming even, in that culturally diverse way. I’m from GIlroy, so I’m used to heavily hispanic areas and it reminds me of home. However, one neighborhood in EPA I visited was so awful that when I, a white guy in a Jeep Grand CHerokee, drove down the street, the local kids made police siren sounds. Everyone had a pit bull named “dosia”, or some such ghetto name and I was just generally uncomfortable as shit.

Sam

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**Author:** ![inkleberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f17d59/32.png) [@inkleberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkleberry)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-motherfucking-father-raping-white-trash-fuckers-in-hayward/311119/64 "2005-07-11T02:01:03Z")

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> [@GaWd](#):
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> The part of MV I’m talking about didn’t even have sidewalks…
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> And the same thing goes for EPA. Most of it is nice, charming even, in that culturally diverse way. I’m from GIlroy, so I’m used to heavily hispanic areas and it reminds me of home. However, one neighborhood in EPA I visited was so awful that when I, a white guy in a Jeep Grand CHerokee, drove down the street, the local kids made police siren sounds. Everyone had a pit bull named “dosia”, or some such ghetto name and I was just generally uncomfortable as shit.
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> Sam

I helped someone move out of that section of MV while in grad school. Let’s just say we got out of there before dark for the sake of our cars.

EPA in general has been pretty awful since I first came to this area in '96 (I lived in Campbell then). Rumor has it that EPA is becoming gentrified now, especially since Ikea has come. But I’m sure as hell not going to be going to check it out. I’ll stick to my nice green hills by 280, thank you very much.

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**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-motherfucking-father-raping-white-trash-fuckers-in-hayward/311119/65 "2005-07-11T06:11:05Z")

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Where in MV is that? I used to lived on Escuela until '92. A decent sort of neighborhood, though they had to disable incoming calls on the payphones at the 7-11 at Latham to disperse the drug dealers.

I was looking for an apartment a couple of months ago and went looking for a listing in EPA west of 101. It was after dark, so I couldn’t tell how bad it might have been. But rents were cheap, there were no sidewalks, and every possible place for street parking was occupied. I don’t have any particular reason to live that for north, so I’m staying in San Jose for the time being.

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-motherfucking-father-raping-white-trash-fuckers-in-hayward/311119/66 "2005-07-11T06:27:38Z")

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Ya got me, Zagloba. I got orders, followed maps and left ASAP. It’s closer to what would have seemed the leftovers of of Mountain View’s farming district. It was very…agricultural. Old old houses, large lots, almost no fire hydrants(one of the items on my inspectors checklist), and let’s just say a bit of a language barrier…

Sam

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**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-motherfucking-father-raping-white-trash-fuckers-in-hayward/311119/67 "2005-07-11T09:27:50Z")

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There’s a little corner NW of El Camino and San Antonio that’s a little like that, but it’s jammed up against the butt end of Palo Alto.

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**Author:** ![Airblairxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Airblairxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airblairxxx)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-motherfucking-father-raping-white-trash-fuckers-in-hayward/311119/68 "2005-07-11T16:32:14Z")

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> [@zagloba](#):
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> There’s a little corner NW of El Camino and San Antonio that’s a little like that, but it’s jammed up against the butt end of Palo Alto.

Hey, I grew up in that “butt end” of Palo Alto, thankyouverymuch.

I, too, would love to know exactly which area of Mountain View **Gawd** is referring to. I was under the impression that the whole town had been gentrified ever since the dotcom boom.

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**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-motherfucking-father-raping-white-trash-fuckers-in-hayward/311119/69 "2005-07-11T21:03:44Z")

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No offense meant, **Airblairxxx**. Believe it or not, one of my best friends lives on Monroe in PA. It seems a nice enough neighborhood to me, but when you cross into MV it seems to still be improving.

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**Author:** ![Airblairxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Airblairxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airblairxxx)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-motherfucking-father-raping-white-trash-fuckers-in-hayward/311119/70 "2005-07-12T20:22:52Z")

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> [@zagloba](#):
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> No offense meant, **Airblairxxx**. Believe it or not, one of my best friends lives on Monroe in PA. It seems a nice enough neighborhood to me, but when you cross into MV it seems to still be improving.

😃

It’s about the only chip I can fit on my shoulder: I grew up in the tough part of Palo Alto, where the houses sell for only about $1.2 million . . .

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