# You Nameless, Faceless coward

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 7, 2003, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156 "2003-10-07T21:33:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/341 "2003-10-13T14:08:18Z")

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Guess I’ll go back to wishing for that pony.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/342 "2003-10-13T14:15:32Z")

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I like ponies.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/343 "2003-10-13T14:17:33Z")

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Who wouldn’t love a pony?

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/344 "2003-10-13T14:20:13Z")

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4 out of 5 spam I get is about loving ponies…

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/345 "2003-10-13T14:28:29Z")

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I hear it’s because they have cocks that can knock through walls.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/346 "2003-10-13T14:30:43Z")

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shaped like baseball bats.

Not that I’d have any _personal_ knowledge, ifyaknowwhadimean

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/347 "2003-10-13T14:36:32Z")

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Ah, they’re 1920’s-style “Death Rays.”

😕

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/348 "2003-10-13T14:46:54Z")

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**Maven** , I wish you good luck with your pregnancy and your baby-to-come. I hope that whatever course you choose, whether staying at home in the early days, or going back to work, works out well for all of you. Take heed of much of the advice offered here though, that new mums need more than just a few days or a few weeks to recover from the experiences your body and your mind go through. Having a baby is a world-altering experience, and sometimes our ‘ideals’ fall short of the realities that confront us. Whatever happens though will be nothing short of wonderful for you, provided you accept it and not push it off as a burden to be carried. I’m sure you’ll be fine and do ok…provided you listen to your baby and your body.

To all the rest of you mutherfuckers, give it a fucking rest. This lynch-mob mentality has gotta stop, OK? Maven last posted to this thread about 5 pages ago, yet you still seem to be coming up with more new disastrous accusations and prophesies about her character, her honesty, and her (potential) mothering abilities. Based on what? The testimonies of people who have only just registered here, and only to add their two-bob’s worth to this debacle? Jeeeeeesus Fucking Cherrrrrrrrist.

I am really dismayed by the behaviour of some posters in this thread, particularly those who I have come to respect for their commonsense and objectivity under other circumstances. I fail to understand why they have turned into raving fucking lunatics in this instance. It is so fucking ugly, it’s unbelievable.

Get a grip folks.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/349 "2003-10-13T14:51:46Z")

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I think **kambuckta** needs a pony.

;j

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/350 "2003-10-13T14:51:55Z")

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I agree with **kambuckta**. This is exactly what Maven wants, and we’re just feeding her. Sometimes it’s just time to stop posting.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/351 "2003-10-13T14:56:57Z")

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gosh, it’s almost as if I’d heard those same words before…

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/352 "2003-10-13T15:02:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ilsa\_Lund \*  
> \*\*I agree with **kambuckta**. This is exactly what Maven wants, and we’re just feeding her. Sometimes it’s just time to stop posting. \*\*

No **IIsa**. this thread is not ‘feeding’ Maven as much as it is feeding some posters blood-lust (your own included by the look of things).

Yes, it IS time to stop posting, but only to save your own crediblity Sunshine.

:rolleyes:

Oh, and **NoClueBoy** …I’d like a bay pony about 10 hands seeing as you’re offering!! 😛

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/353 "2003-10-13T15:13:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by kambuckta \*  
> Take heed of much of the advice offered here though, that new mums need more than just a few days or a few weeks to recover from the experiences your body and your mind go through. Having a baby is a world-altering experience, and sometimes our ‘ideals’ fall short of the realities that confront us. \*\*

This is the best part of your post. You actually think you’re going to get through to her even though we’ve been saying exactly this for eight pages. The whole reason this thread is eight pages long is because we can’t get it through her head that after having a ‘damn kid’ you can’t go back to work in a week.

She insists she can…and doesn’t understand how detrimental that will be to her and her ‘damn kid’.

But go on, stroke her ego a little harder. She loves being coddled.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/354 "2003-10-13T15:35:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*This is the best part of your post. You actually think you’re going to get through to her even though we’ve been saying exactly this for eight pages. The whole reason this thread is eight pages long is because we can’t get it through her head that after having a ‘damn kid’ you can’t go back to work in a week.
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> She insists she can…and doesn’t understand how detrimental that will be to her and her ‘damn kid’.
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> But go on, stroke her ego a little harder. She loves being coddled. \*\*

**Jar** , I’m not trying to get through to Maven as much as I am trying to get through to the other posters that their attempts at ‘helping’ have been thinly disguised condemnations (for the most part). I’m not stroking egos, I’m just trying to restore a little semblance of civility into this thread, which has gone from a couple of bits of advice, to accusing Maven of faking her pregnancy. I don’t give a shit about coddling, but I DO give a shit when someone has been accused of misrepresentation without any evidence. And from what I have seen in this thread, much of the hype has been ‘hyped-up’ by others…NOT Maven. THAT is part of the reason why I fail to understand the intensity of the anger felt against her.

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/355 "2003-10-13T15:35:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*But go on, stroke her ego a little harder. She loves being coddled. \*\*

But all of that might lead to an egogasm.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/356 "2003-10-13T15:42:54Z")

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\*\*wring

> [@](#):
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> gosh, it’s almost as if I’d heard those same words before…

kambuckta

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> No IIsa. this thread is not ‘feeding’ Maven as much as it is feeding some posters blood-lust (your own included by the look of things).
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> Yes, it IS time to stop posting, but only to save your own crediblity Sunshine.

\*\*

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Hey, **wring**! Great job of pulling up a lawnchair in my RAM thread. Still getting off beatig on me? I did stop posting in my other thread, you fucking moron.

**kambuckta**? Waht fucking bloodlust? All I’ve done is request her link, and express my opinion she’s faking it. Show me examples of my ‘bloodlust.’ I think we are feeding her. You can have your little poor Maven pity fest over here, but I’ve seen enough of her train recks to get the impression she has to be doing this for attention.  
Fuck Y’all!:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/357 "2003-10-13T15:47:28Z")

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**kambuckta** ,

I am not speaking for others but I think that the reason that this thread has gotten so ugly and so hateful is because people are FED UP.

If this had been the first train wreck she caused, I would be more inclined to see your side (not that I am not, but you know what I mean).

The fact is, this is not the first train wreck. Nor the second. Nor the third…

THIS is why there is such an intense backlash. Because in the past, ‘feeding the troll’ (as it may be) did nothing. In fact, it seemed that as soon as her threads stopped getting attention that she would cause a new trainwreck. So either way, we lose: feed her or not.

I also think a lot of people are miffed (in this I will include myself) because of the name change. We were duped into falling for another train wreck.

This is what happens, one could say, when you cry wolf too many times. People really stop giving a shit. Even the ones who initially rallied to your cause.

Short of this thread being locked and her being banned, this won’t be the last we hear of her. That I can guarantee. In fact, so much so that I am willing to bet you my pony.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/358 "2003-10-13T16:03:34Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Ilsa\_Lund \*  
> \*\*\*\*wring
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> Hey, **wring**! Great job of pulling up a lawnchair in my RAM thread. Still getting off beatig on me? I did stop posting in my other thread, you fucking moron.  
> \*\*

'scuse me?

my first post in this thread (several pages back IIRC) was not in support of the OP. THe thread, IMHO had degenerated into a slug fest wherin several folks were talking about the OP, giving assesments about her character, lack thereof, other stuff she’d posted _from other sources_ complete w/ nudge nudge wink wink, where can I see that, too crap. I hoped that it would die off w/o the OP coming back in to re-start it, and in fact, it had kinda dropped to the bottom of the first page of the pit. THen, **jar** checked in and bumped it up to the top. that’s when I made, what I think (IIRC) was my second post to this thread, commenting that, IMHO, no one’s opinion was likely to be changed, that people who wanted to see her in the best light would see this continuation as a pile on, and be reinforced in their beliefs, whereas people (and I specifically counted myself as one of them) who thought the OP was an ijiot weren’t changing their opinions either, and I suggested that well, shit, maybe if we all just stopped posting, it’d die.

then some one else came in and posted some other on topic comment, to which I replied something about wanting that damn pony again.

and for a brief shining moment, it appeared that the thread would turn into a pun-filled-sex-crazed hijack, which all could enjoy.

alas and alack, it was not to be. But, when **kam** posted something about ‘hey why don’t we all stop posting’? I commented my deja vu feeling.

and that elicited this hate filled idiocy from you, directed at me?

Frankly I didn’t remember you at all. If we’ve bumped heads in another thread, it obviously didn’t impress me enough to recall your user name and think “gosh, there’s that **Isla** again”.

you’ve corrected that. Not in a good way, mind you, but you have, indeed corrected that.

In short, my posts here were **not** of the ‘pull up a chair’ variety(which are a violation of board rules, and I resent your accusation that I’m in violation), and were fairly dismissive of the OP, but not to the extent that I thought it was ok to post /hint at links to other postings of hers elsewhere and mock them here. and were posted in the (apparently unsuccessful) hope that folks would not only stop the pile on and get on with their lives, but also not bother with her next ‘poor pitiful me’ thread when she posts it.

as for the ‘fuck off’ finger etc, we’re all proud of your coding abilities. Perhaps if you could extend that knowledge into areas where you actually responded to things people posted instead of your assumption about what they posted, we could get somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Ryle\_Dup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Ryle\_Dup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryle_Dup)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/359 "2003-10-13T16:05:18Z")

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kambuckta, get off that high horse, and onto a pony!  
Oooh, ponies…

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2003, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/360 "2003-10-13T16:09:45Z")

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> alas and alack, it was not to be. But, when kam posted something about ‘hey why don’t we all stop posting’? I commented my deja vu feeling.
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> and that elicited this hate filled idiocy from you, directed at me?
> 
> Frankly I didn’t remember you at all. If we’ve bumped heads in another thread, it obviously didn’t impress me enough to recall your user name and think “gosh, there’s that Isla again”.

If your quote was not directed at me, I am sorry. Consider the’hate filled idiocy’ mostly directed at kambuckta (though it was more tongue in cheek, I guess). We did have a little spat in another thread of mine, a pitting of CnoteChris. You had made a similar comment about stopping posting in that thread, and I thought you were talking to me when you said “gosh, it’s almost as if I’d heard those same words before…”

If you were not saying that to beat on me, I apologize for directing my anger at you.

Let’s be buds, man! I love you man!  
I am sorry a pony had to die. Won’t someone think of the ponies?

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