# You Nameless, Faceless coward **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 7, 2003, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156 "2003-10-07T21:33:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/381 "2003-10-14T03:02:18Z")
Whatever Jessity. I know you like IDBB for some reason, but she’s referring to an actual (depending on your views) baby that’s going to actually be her child where as my frustration with infertility (which I venture to say you could never understand until you’ve been there) results in swearing about a creature that doesn’t even exist. All I know is that if she’s making an effort to show us how happy and excited and thrilled she is to be a mom, perhaps she shouldn’t see her child as an upcoming inconvenience. This thread strikes a cord with some of us more than others, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/382 "2003-10-14T03:08:03Z")
Whatever Jessity. I know you like IDBB for some reason, but she’s referring to an actual (depending on your views) baby that’s going to actually be her child where as my frustration with infertility (which I venture to say you could never understand until you’ve been there) results in swearing about a creature that doesn’t even exist. If you think for one minute that when I finally get pregnant I’ll be calling my baby a ‘damn kid’ and bitching that I can’t collect all the Disney Bobbleheads I once wanted, you don’t know me AT. FUCKING. ALL. All I know is that if she’s making an effort to show us how happy and excited and thrilled she is to be a mom, perhaps she shouldn’t see her child as an upcoming inconvenience. This thread strikes a cord with some of us more than others, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/383 "2003-10-14T03:27:59Z")
…actually, it strikes a _chord_ with me. ---
**Author:** ![Jessity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jessity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jessity)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/384 "2003-10-14T03:40:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \* > \*\*Whatever Jessity. I know you like IDBB for some reason, but she’s referring to an actual (depending on your views) baby that’s going to actually be her child where as my frustration with infertility (which I venture to say you could never understand until you’ve been there) results in swearing about a creature that doesn’t even exist. If you think for one minute that when I finally get pregnant I’ll be calling my baby a ‘damn kid’ and bitching that I can’t collect all the Disney Bobbleheads I once wanted, you don’t know me AT. FUCKING. ALL. > > All I know is that if she’s making an effort to show us how happy and excited and thrilled she is to be a mom, perhaps she shouldn’t see her child as an upcoming inconvenience. > > This thread strikes a cord with some of us more than others, obviously. \*\* Actually, I don’t “like IDBB for some reason”. Please don’t claim to know what or who I like or dislike, when we haven’t had a conversation in quiiiiiiite a while. I just found your wording very … off. And yes, I can certainly say that I don’t know the frustration of infertility. I never did think for a minute that you’d be calling your baby a “damn kid” BUT I think you read WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to much into it when she said it. I also think it is ridiculous to go about stating who DESERVES a child and who doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/385 "2003-10-14T04:03:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by fessie \* > \*\* > Plus, as **lezlers** pointed out, people have taken umbrage. Now how can you not love a thread in which someone takes umbrage? Really. > > I’d take umbrage over a pony any day. \*\* What can I say? “Umbrage” is my new favorite word. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/386 "2003-10-14T12:44:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \* > \*\*I HAD A PONY! AND I LOVED HIM! \*\* I think I caught that act in Tijuana. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/387 "2003-10-14T13:11:28Z")
Just a brief word on the ‘damned kid’ debacle that seems to be one of the thorns in many posters’ sides, how many of you who are mothers will admit to calling their lump a _damned_ whatever during their pregnancies? I know I certainly did. Every time I got indigestion, it was the ‘damned kid’s’ fault. Every time fetus # 2 decided to play trampolines on my sciatic nerve, he was called a LOT worse than a ‘damned kid’. Fetus # 3 had a different trick where he would kick into my kidneys, causing great pain. Fetus # 4 chose to wake up and get active when I was just dozing off to sleep. By CHRIST did I call him a ‘damned kid’. When I couldn’t fit into my clothes anymore, it was all the doing of TDK’s. I was too tired to go out and party…blame TDK. I couldn’t enjoy a grilled steak anymore…blame TDK. It’s all part and parcel of coming to terms with motherhood, and does NOT indicate that the mother is going to be some evil abusive witch who loathes her child. We all say things in jest or frustration that do not become part of our post-birth lives (although they might get reactivated when the kids hit teenagehood!! :D) So, before you jump on Maven for daring to express such a heinous term as ‘damned kid’, just take a step back and consider that it is a VERY common ‘term of endearment’ for belly-lumps. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/388 "2003-10-14T14:24:09Z")
Well, I like to think that after waiting thirty one years and two and a half of fertility treatment, I wouldn’t refer to my baby as a ‘lump’ or a ‘damn kid’. I would be in fucking heaven that I’d been blessed with it. But that’s why I said this thread means more to some than others. To each their own. ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/389 "2003-10-14T16:36:31Z")
Without passing judgment, I am just chiming in to say that I never referred to my three pregnancies as “lump” or “damn kid”. But that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/390 "2003-10-14T16:46:22Z")
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**Author:** ![Infectious\_Lass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e56c9b/32.png) [@Infectious\_Lass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infectious_Lass)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2003, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/391 "2003-10-14T21:47:54Z")
_sigh_ I urged IDBB in her lj to change her name. So it may be my fault if anyone got ‘taken in’ or somesuch. Thing is, I was thinking, yes! get a fresh start, begin again, go forward and sin no more. And then she goes and makes the same mistakes again, and the name change is as much good for a fresh start as a chocolate fireguard. _Siiigh_ ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/392 "2003-10-15T13:40:50Z")
oh my god. Now all I can think of is chocolate covered firemen. ---
**Author:** ![Aries28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Aries28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aries28)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/393 "2003-10-15T13:53:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \* > \*\*oh my god. Now all I can think of is chocolate covered firemen. \*\* I’ll do you one better…how bout a chocolate covered Ingo? Enjoy. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/394 "2003-10-15T13:59:54Z")
```auto (\(\_ _.o o`\\\\ ("_ )))) '---' (((( .=, ) )))___.-""-./=;\\\ / ((( \ )))) ; | |// /\ | | (( ( \ /__.-'\ / ) / /` | / \ \ | / / \ ; \ (\ ( \\_ || || || \_] || || || jgs /_< /_ **Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/395 "2003-10-15T14:17:36Z") With all this pony-lovin’ going on, this explains the nature of some of the porn spam I get with farmgirls attending to the, _ahem,_ “needs” of their livestock. ---
**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/396 "2003-10-15T15:37:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*With all this pony-lovin’ going on, this explains the nature of some of the porn spam I get with farmgirls attending to the, _ahem,_ “needs” of their livestock. \*\* They have “porn” with girls feeding and watering horses, and trimming their hooves and curry-combing them? To whom is that porn? I don’t understand. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/397 "2003-10-15T16:56:49Z")
But the horses are NAKED!! ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/398 "2003-10-15T17:30:33Z")
OH sure, but if it was shiny, muscled BOYS tending to their needs it would be fine…right? HYPOCRITE! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![zoogirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b9bd4f/32.png) [@zoogirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoogirl)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156/399 "2003-10-17T07:13:10Z")
I’ve got darn near everything BUT a pony… pleasepleaseplease? 🙂 And I’m sorry if I sounded harsh. Late, tired and bitchy. I really do hope things work out OK. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-nameless-faceless-coward/206156.md?page=19)