# You poor lonely conservative in the SDMB sea of liberals **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 29, 2004, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745 "2004-09-29T22:47:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/1 "2004-09-29T22:47:34Z")
While bothering me for a while now, it was prompted by a thread today. > [@Shodan](#): > > There are only a handful of conservatives on the SDMB > [@Mr. Moto](#): > > If I wanted my ego stroked I sure wouldn’t be hanging out here, one of the few conservatives on this message board. > [@Debaser](#): > > Sure, but only if you mean “One of the last conservative posters on an overwhelmingly liberal message board.” > [@Starving Artist](#): > > Good point. If I had gained even one conservative friend here, I could claim friendship with 25% of the SDMB conservative base.🙂 > [@Starving Artist](#): > > As far as milroyj goes, I’m aware he’s one of the four conservatives on this board:) Give it a rest. I’ll play matchmaker for you, so you don’t feel like the only conservative voice in the cold, cruel, liberal world of the SDMB. I stopped at 50, 35 of which were off of the top of my head, but will happily provide 100 if that would guarantee to stop the whining. Listed below are friends for you to play with. Be advised that a great many of them are intelligent, thoughtful posters, so if you go all freaky on us about Gay Muslim Terrorists destroying Neo-con (liberal code word for Jew they tell me) family structures with 1920’s style death rays while getting blowjobs in round rooms, they’ll not come to your aid, and you will indeed be all alone. Heck, a few of them aren’t even voting for Bush this time around, not counting the ones who can’t vote as they live overseas. They still wouldn’t be caught dead in a “Bleeding-Heart Liberal” T-shirt. Abbie Carmichael Airman Doors USAF athelas beagledave Bill H. bodswood Bricker Bruce\_Daddy Brutus danceswithcats Debaser Dewey Cheatham Unhow Diceman duffer Evil One FriarTed furt John Mace kanicbird Magiver manhattan Martin Hyde Master Control milroyj milum mks57 Mr. Moto msmith537 Muad’Dib owlstretchingtime pervert qts PaulFitzroy ralph124c riserius1 roger thornhill Razorsharp Rune Ryan\_Liam Sam Stone Scylla SHAKES Shodan SnakeSpirit Starving Artist stpualer the raindog Tigers2B1 Uncommon Sense Weirddave Remember, if you promise that the whining will stop across the board, I will give you 50 more friends to play with. In the meantime, just know that you’re not alone out there. Also note, the mods will not ban you for being conservative or even espousing conservative views here, no matter how many times you say they will, so rejoice in your conservatism! ---
**Author:** ![MrTuffPaws](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@MrTuffPaws](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrTuffPaws)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/2 "2004-09-29T22:55:55Z")
**milum???** Why is he on the list? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/3 "2004-09-29T23:16:16Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > I stopped at 50, 35 of which were off of the top of my head… Wow, you think alphabetically? 🙂 I must be the only “conservative” in the world who supports: abortion legalized drugs gay marriage (controlled by states) euthenasia elimination of 'under God" from the pledge legalized prostitution … to name just a few And I see people on that list whom I have never agreed with a single one of their OPs. You need to learn to distinguish between conservatives and libertarians. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/4 "2004-09-29T23:17:57Z")
You forgot me, although I’m more small “l” libertarian than conservative. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/5 "2004-09-29T23:19:57Z")
While he tends to avoid getting deeply into political threads (mostly because he thinks arguing with the Loony Left is a waste of time), **BrotherCadfael** is proudly conservative – with streak of libertarianism. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/6 "2004-09-29T23:20:13Z")
See\*\* ivylass’s\*\* post. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@The\_Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tim)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/7 "2004-09-29T23:20:51Z")
I don’t think the distinction is relevant to the OP. What is relevant is the self identification of posters who complain about there being no conservatives. Though it seems to me that it really resolves down to the “left wing” posters are far more together on politics than the “right wing” posters. Which shouldn’t really be a surprise. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/8 "2004-09-29T23:21:42Z")
Another humorless liberal, I see. **DMC** , did you happen to notice the two smilies at the end of each of my comments? They were intended as tongue-in-cheek, good-natured observations of the board. Frankly, I think this place is much more fun being overwhelmingly liberal such as it is. No shortage of opinions or observations in need of correction. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/9 "2004-09-29T23:28:13Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > stpualer I’m assuming this is me. The gay, atheist, never-have-voted-for-a-republican-but-have-voted-for-democrats-libertarians-and-indepence-party, pro-abortion, pro-gun control, pro-social security, guy. Well, I’m glad to have a rep at least. I feel like Pinky Tuscadero. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/10 "2004-09-29T23:35:47Z")
> [@The Tim](#): > > Though it seems to me that it really resolves down to the “left wing” posters are far more together on politics than the “right wing” posters. Which shouldn’t really be a surprise. Well, when you lump people together whose political philsophies are different, then call them all “right wing”, it shouldn’t be a surprise that they aren’t “together on politics”. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/11 "2004-09-29T23:37:48Z")
I think it’s a common conservative tactic-complaining about how persecuted you are, that conservatives are a minority, in a sea of “loony lefties”, etc. Except of course, when it comes to convincing people to vote for conservative causes. Then it’s all, “A minority of fringe liberals blah blah blah…” Talk about playing the victim card. BTW, **Fenris** is also a conservative. And **Milum** -wasn’t he banned? ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/12 "2004-09-29T23:37:51Z")
Bwahaha. The same put-open conservative mindset that produces such squawks as “liberal media! bleat!” As I’ve said before, to be a conservative is, by definition, to have a twisted understanding of the way things really are. Delusions are part of the package. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/13 "2004-09-29T23:43:13Z")
It’s my understanding that **roger thornhill** and **bodswood** are the same poster. So you’ve only got forty-nine posters on the list, thus invalidating the entire premise of your OP. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/14 "2004-09-29T23:44:58Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I think it’s a common conservative tactic-complaining about how persecuted you are, that conservatives are a minority, in a sea of “loony lefties”, etc. > > Except of course, when it comes to convincing people to vote for conservative causes. Then it’s all, “A minority of fringe liberals blah blah blah…” Good observation except that Liberals do the exact same thing. That’s more of a human being tactic than a Conservative one. It’s just that when “we” do it, it’s real. When “they” do it, it’s a tactic. Haj ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/15 "2004-09-29T23:48:46Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Wow, you think alphabetically? 🙂 > > I must be the only “conservative” in the world who supports: > > abortion > legalized drugs > gay marriage (controlled by states) > euthenasia > elimination of 'under God" from the pledge > legalized prostitution > … to name just a few Not the only one… abortion? Check. legalized drugs? Check. gay marriage? Check. euthenasia? Check. elimination of 'under God" from the pledge? Check. legalized prostitution? Check. _checks OP’s list for my name_ YAY! I’m a conservative! ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/16 "2004-09-29T23:50:05Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I think it’s a common conservative tactic-complaining about how persecuted you are, that conservatives are a minority, in a sea of “loony lefties”, etc. > > Except of course, when it comes to convincing people to vote for conservative causes. Then it’s all, “A minority of fringe liberals blah blah blah…” That’s merely a specific instantiation of the general all-purpose conservative credo – “Such-and-such is bad, except when **my side** wants it/does it.” - Changing your mind is bad, unless George W. Bush does it. - Government handouts are bad, unless rich corporate entities want it. - Tariffs are bad, unless my constituents want it. - Abusing prescription drugs is bad, unless Rush Limbaugh does it. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/17 "2004-09-30T00:03:08Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > That’s merely a specific instantiation of the general all-purpose conservative credo – “Such-and-such is bad, except when **my side** wants it/does it.” > > - Changing your mind is bad, unless George W. Bush does it. > - Government handouts are bad, unless rich corporate entities want it. > - Tariffs are bad, unless my constituents want it. > - Abusing prescription drugs is bad, unless Rush Limbaugh does it. \*Racial quotas are ok, unless it’s White people \*Using family connections to get special treatment is bad, unless you’re a Kennedy \*Tariffs are bad, unless my constituents want it (that one works both ways) \*Blocking judicial nominees is bad, unless it’s Bork blah, blah, blah. It’s all a matter of whose ox is being gored. We can play all day: \*The First Ammendment is sacred, unless it’s buring a flag countered with: \*The First Ammendment is sacred, unless it’s a student who wants to lead a prayer. I can see the inconsistency in my moderately Libertarian views. What the hell is wrong with the Democrats and Republicans in that respect? Haj ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/18 "2004-09-30T00:10:07Z")
> [@stpauler](#): > > I’m assuming this is me. The gay, atheist, never-have-voted-for-a-republican-but-have-voted-for-democrats-libertarians-and-indepence-party, pro-abortion, pro-gun control, pro-social security, guy. > > Well, I’m glad to have a rep at least. I feel like Pinky Tuscadero. Don’t flatter yourself. You’re Urkel if you have any identity from a sitcom. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/19 "2004-09-30T00:18:36Z")
Given the various rebuttals posted, does the OP intend to comment, or revise his list? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745/20 "2004-09-30T00:18:58Z")
It’s interesting and amusing to me how anxious the liberal contingent is to jump upon their opponents that the merest mention by a conservative of being outnumbered – something which is usually little more than a simple observation of fact – is assailed as whining, complaining, squawking, feeling persecuted, etc. I’ve never felt any comment I made about it was a complaint and I’ve never felt persecuted. Whenever I comment on being outnumbered that’s all it is: a comment…a simple, perfectly obvious observation of fact. So chill, you guys. You have enough to contend with just trying to justify your own positions on things without having to try to analyze why we mention the fact that there are so many of you. 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-poor-lonely-conservative-in-the-sdmb-sea-of-liberals/266745.md?page=2)