# You’re going to miss Trump when he’s gone **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 10, 2024, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-re-going-to-miss-trump-when-he-s-gone/1005530 "2024-08-10T15:06:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![survinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@survinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/survinga)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-re-going-to-miss-trump-when-he-s-gone/1005530/101 "2024-08-11T21:44:49Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > “Competent fascist” is an oxymoron. > [@DrDeth](#): > > Fascism is embraced by liars and madmen. I agree with your second statement, and not your first statement. Being a liar or a madman doesn’t mean you’re going to be incompetent in your pursuit of evil or implementation of Fascism. I would argue that Hitler was very competent in his Fascism. Where he failed was military strategy. But his basic takeover of Germany and much of Europe prior to getting over-extended in the East was competent…He was a madman. He was evil. He was a liar. But he wasn’t incompetent. ---
**Author:** ![jjakucyk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3d9bf3/32.png) [@jjakucyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjakucyk)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-re-going-to-miss-trump-when-he-s-gone/1005530/102 "2024-08-11T21:49:14Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > My personal opinion on this… > > …they feared he would give away the game, stomping the pedal to the floor and derailing the whole long-term project. I think I mostly agree, but it’s not a line of thought I’ve spent too much time on. It’s too depressing. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-re-going-to-miss-trump-when-he-s-gone/1005530/103 "2024-08-11T21:58:46Z")
I’m not promoting fascism, for Pete’s sake, and its evil is self-evident. I’m not a fan. But if you think Hitler was a bumbler as a politician, I’d suggest you read up on it. I’d recommend Shirer’s _The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich_. Hitler learned from his mistakes and was almost flawless in his political decisions in his lead-up to assuming control. His manipulation of European leadership prior to the war was masterful. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-re-going-to-miss-trump-when-he-s-gone/1005530/104 "2024-08-11T21:59:58Z")
> [@survinga](#): > > I would argue that Hitler was very competent in his Fascism. Where he failed was military strategy. Exactly. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-re-going-to-miss-trump-when-he-s-gone/1005530/105 "2024-08-11T22:39:23Z")
I will not miss trump when he is gone. Not one little bit. If a worse one comes along, we’ll just have to fight that one off too. Same shit, different day. He isn’t the first and he won’t be the last, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to miss him. It’s kind of a weird take on the topic, to be frank. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-re-going-to-miss-trump-when-he-s-gone/1005530/106 "2024-08-11T23:33:57Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > If a worse one comes along, we’ll just have to fight that one off too. But we haven’t fought the first one off. He’s tied in the polls and has a massive following. The societal forces that created Trump haven’t gone away either. I’m confused what you think we’ve accomplished so far. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-re-going-to-miss-trump-when-he-s-gone/1005530/107 "2024-08-11T23:35:32Z")
You’re right. I’ve allowed my recent optimism to override my thinking skills. Let’s restate to we’ll fight the next one off just as we are now. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-re-going-to-miss-trump-when-he-s-gone/1005530/108 "2024-08-11T23:40:24Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > If a worse one comes along, we’ll just have to fight that one off too. At the expense of sounding like a cliche, it isn’t a fight you win, it’s a fight you fight. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-re-going-to-miss-trump-when-he-s-gone/1005530/109 "2024-08-11T23:47:07Z")
I will miss him when he is gone, but we will always have Paris. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-re-going-to-miss-trump-when-he-s-gone/1005530/110 "2024-08-11T23:48:15Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > But we haven’t fought the first one off. He’s tied in the polls and has a massive following. > > The societal forces that created Trump haven’t gone away either. I’m confused what you think we’ve accomplished so far. Well, the recent success of the Harris/Walz ticket was certainly got him panicking, so that’s a start. Like most things in life, it’s a confidence game, and no one wants to vote for a loser. That’s why Trump is losing confidence. Just have to keep picking away at him. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-re-going-to-miss-trump-when-he-s-gone/1005530/111 "2024-08-12T00:19:10Z")
You never know until you try. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-re-going-to-miss-trump-when-he-s-gone/1005530/112 "2024-08-12T00:24:54Z")
I like to think of the quote from Starbuck in the re imagined 2004 Battlestar Galactica series: _Fight 'em 'til we can’t._ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-re-going-to-miss-trump-when-he-s-gone/1005530.md?page=5)