# You saw "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back". What did you "catch" in the film? SPOI **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 26, 2001, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150 "2001-08-26T02:45:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/61 "2001-08-30T17:37:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > [BI really don’t think that was a Khan reference, closer to a “FREEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!!!” Braveheart reference. > \*\* I’m not sure about what moaning “Justice” has to do with it, but that scene seemed reminiscent of _The Shawshank Redemption_ after Andy escapes and he’s standing in the rain looking skyward. ---
**Author:** ![JosephFinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@JosephFinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JosephFinn)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/62 "2001-08-30T18:22:03Z")
Two more I remembered: The ongoing 404 references (since they’re ticked off at internet people). For instance, Jay’s union card shows him as a member of his local 404, and the time on the clock of the receptionist they beat up is 4:04. The diner is the Arena Diner. That scene is in Death Valley, Utah, used to film the classic Star Trek episode “The Arena.” ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/63 "2001-08-30T22:46:59Z")
Another obvious one: George Carlin the hobo was, of course, George Carlin the priest in _Dogma_. Fitting that a Buddy Jesus should show up in the very next scene. ---
**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2001, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/64 "2001-08-31T05:59:57Z")
Thanks, **ModernRonin2**. ---
**Author:** ![silent\_rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@silent\_rob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silent_rob)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2001, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/65 "2001-09-02T09:49:04Z")
Okay, saw it again, tonight, with another group of friends (it’s my b-day, and I really like the movie, all right?). Anyway, caught a few more great things: -The View Askew fictional cigarette brand “Nails Cigarettes” is used extensively throughout the film, but you can see it the most at the beginning. When Jay & Silent Bob are standing outside RST Video, there’s the “Got Nails?” poster from _Dogma_, hanging up. It’s an x-ray of a nail in a lung. Then, when it shows the inside of the Quick Stop, the only cigarettes they have are Nails Cigarettes. But there are lots of different kinds, apparently, as there are lots of different coloured boxes. -In the _Planet of the Apes_ parody, there’s the obvious stuff: all of the humans are naked except Dante & Randal who where their regular clothes, the ape Jay & Silent Bob, and the Ape Video and Ape Stop. However, if you look closely, there’s also a shoe-polish made sign hanging on the Ape Stop. It says, parodying the sign from _Clerks_ (and seen at the beginning of this movie): “I assure you, we are not open to humans!” 😃 -When Jay & Silent Bob are talking to Pumpkin Escobar (Tracy Morgan) & Silent Scott about finding Miramax, there are posters for a Greatest Hits album, behind them on the wall. The posters are for a fictional band, made by View Askew, featuring Scott Mosier and someone in the Berserker wig. The band’s name is “Random Meat” and their tagline is “The Meat Is On!” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![fishboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/96bed5/32.png) [@fishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fishboy)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2001, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/66 "2001-09-02T14:29:37Z")
Minor correction, the Arena episode of Star Trek was filmed as Vasquez Rocks, about 15 miles N.E. of Los Angeles (beneath the Grapevine). It’s a state park also. Check it out, it’s cool… They used it a lot in S.T. and Chevy truck commercials, probably 'cause it’s close to L.A. ---
**Author:** ![red\_dragon60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@red\_dragon60](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/red_dragon60)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2001, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/67 "2001-09-03T01:13:35Z")
Don’t know if these have been posted yet… Jay had an Olaf Berzerker shirt. Remember him from Clerks? Randall had his awesome CCCP hockey jersey, also from Clerks. ---
**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2001, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/68 "2001-09-03T03:35:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by silent\_rob \* > \*\ ***Number Six** , it’s not technically a sequel, as it’s a story separate from the other films. However, the main plot is a take off of some stuff that happens in _Chasing Amy_. > It’s very true that fans of Kevin Smith’s other films (or people that have at least seen them) will get a lot more out of it. But that’s not the reason you should go back and watch _Clerks_, _Chasing Amy_, and _Dogma_…you should watch them because they’re really great movies. Though some might not like _Mallrats_ as much, it’s pretty funny, too. > \*\* You make a reasonable point. I borrowed the dvd’s from my friends and watched them. I thought “Clerks” and “Dogma” were both pretty good, but neither was the kind of movie I’d want to go back and see again. “Mallrats” left me cold. It seemed like “Clerks” with a bigger budget and less imagination. “Chasing Amy” is clearly the class of these films. I can see sparks of potential greatness here, though I wouldn’t call this movie great. I liked it a lot, though. From what I remember of how it was advertised when it was released, I thought it was a romantic comedy-drama about a love triangle, and here it turns out to be a screwball comedy about the comic book industry. Had I known that, I would have seen it at the theater. This was one seriously mis-advertised movie. Overall, I’d still put Kevin Smith movies (except “Mallrats”) in roughly the same category as “Fight Club” or “The Usual Suspects”. I like the movies, but can’t quite grasp what makes people want to watch them over and over again. For me, the connection just isn’t there the way it is with, say, Whit Stillman or Pedro Almodovar. Oh, and after seeing “Chasing Amy”, I’d classify “Jay and Silent Bob” as a sequel. If a movie uses characters from another movie and continues the story line, it’s a sequel. ---
**Author:** ![Totoro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Totoro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Totoro)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2001, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/69 "2001-09-03T04:45:33Z")
You know what? My name is Justus. (Yes I know her name is Justice in the film, not Justus, it sounds the exact fucking same, so no shit, k?) When she said her name, I yelled “WHAT?!?!” and the person I was with goes, “oh man, you’re gonna get some shit.” Not really a signature Kevin Smith hidden thing, but whatever. Did anyone catch the Blade references? The Lightsabre drag against the ground that Jay does is a direct copy, that most would notice, but when Jay does the jump and lands, and slowly looks up, that’s also a copy. The Cocknocker hit where Jay gets hit back is also from Blade. I don’t know why he has all the Blade references, but I’m 200 proof sure that they’re from Blade. Anyone know if Kevin Smith or anyone has a connection to Blade? Anyone know how many times I’ve said the word Blade? Blade Blade Blade? ---
**Author:** ![Totoro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Totoro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Totoro)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2001, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/70 "2001-09-03T04:47:48Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Number Six \* > “Chasing Amy” is clearly the class of these films. I can see sparks of potential greatness here, though I wouldn’t call this movie great. I liked it a lot, though. From what I remember of how it was advertised when it was released, I thought it was a romantic comedy-drama about a love triangle, and here it turns out to be a screwball comedy about the comic book industry. Had I known that, I would have seen it at the theater. This was one seriously mis-advertised movie._\* You know, Kevin himself says that Chasing Amy is his favorite of the films. You should listen to him on the DVD commentary. After that, I appreciated it even more. He really stresses the wonderful acting, and it really did make it more enjoyable for me. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/71 "2001-09-04T19:22:42Z")
Call me an inveterate geek, but I noticed how the instructions on the tranquilizer case read “In case of emergency, **brake** glass…” Any meaning to that?? \ 😉 ---
**Author:** ![silent\_rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@silent\_rob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silent_rob)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/72 "2001-09-05T01:53:42Z")
A change has been made on [Movie Poop Shoot](http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/4.html), so it now includes both the new post that Jay & Silent Bob respond to in the film, as well as their response. The interesting thing is that they didn’t read all of the first post out loud, in the film. It was apparently posted by “Darth Randal” (from _Clerks_ and the new flick) and has a few other funny bits in it. Give it a look-see. ---
**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/73 "2001-09-05T02:31:35Z")
I don’t think anyone mentioned the guys from Reservoir Dogs walking around in the background of the Miramax lot. ---
**Author:** ![Mythos45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@Mythos45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mythos45)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/74 "2001-09-05T02:38:26Z")
In the scenes in Banky’s Secret Stash (comic store), he’s holding the tiny cup he carried around and ‘made last’ in \* Mallrats \*. ---
**Author:** ![Baraqiyal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@Baraqiyal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baraqiyal)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/75 "2001-09-05T10:22:22Z")
When Affleck described the internet as “a place where losers get together to discuss stuff they claim to despise, but can’t help discussing”, it reminded me so much of the numerous ST Voyager discussions I’ve seen. I have to wonder if Kevin Smith had that in mind when he was writing those lines. ---
**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/76 "2001-09-05T13:45:38Z")
Or Episode 1. (Which, for the record, I liked.) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/77 "2001-09-10T03:29:51Z")
I think I might have the most obscure here. In _Dogma_ there’s a reference (by way of _Krush Groove_) to Run-D.M.C. when Loki gets off the bus saying “Whose house?..Run’s house!..” and _J&SBSB_ has a Run-D.M.C. song on the soundtrack (_Tougher Than Leather_). ---
**Author:** ![silent\_rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@silent\_rob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silent_rob)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150/78 "2001-09-10T06:36:50Z")
**Robot Arm** , “Run’s House” was also used in _Chasing Amy_. And were it not for the [soundtrack](http://www.viewaskew.com/chasingamy/amysoundtrack.html) getting dropped, they were planning to have it on there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-saw-jay-and-silent-bob-strike-back-what-did-you-catch-in-the-film-spoi/78150.md?page=3)