# You say you are a christian - I say you nead to grow up

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-are-a-christian-i-say-you-nead-to-grow-up/97955>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 13, 2002, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-are-a-christian-i-say-you-nead-to-grow-up/97955 "2002-03-13T00:44:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-are-a-christian-i-say-you-nead-to-grow-up/97955/161 "2012-03-17T11:29:52Z")

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> [@SeaHawk](#):
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> How is it possible for a grown person to believe that Jesus is the son of god… and that sort og rubbish ?
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> It seams to me that these kind of people nead to grow up and stop clutching at straws.
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> I often see endless discussion where adults tries to argue for creationism and at the same time desperately tries to question evolution.  
> You cling to a few lose ends in the evolution theori, while the christian “theory” consists of nothing but loose ends.  
> **Perhaps it is time for you the grow up!!**

If one reads the Bible and reads Psalm 81 in Douay version, or the 82d in KJV the psalmist says," I said you are gods and sons of the most high". Jesus backs this up in John 10; he is quoted as saying",It says in your law, “I said you are gods”, so why do you accuse me of blasphemy when I call God my father , when your fathers did"? It sounds to me like the word god doesn’t mean creator of all things like it does now. but just a man of power.

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**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-are-a-christian-i-say-you-nead-to-grow-up/97955/162 "2012-03-17T11:43:46Z")

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> [@dreamer](#):
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> You know **Seahawk** - the cool thing about religious faith is that anyone can say anything about what their beliefs are and what they think everyone else’s should be, but there is NOTHING you could ever say that would change the mind of anyone who truly knows the truth and knows what they believe is the truth for them.
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> So that being said - JESUS IS THE WAY - THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT - AND ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN HIM SHALL NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE 😃
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> And also May God Bless you and help you find your way…

I don’t believe it is right to criticize a person for their beliefs,but one cannot say in truth that they know the truth, just that they believe it is truth. What is truly known can be proven, and religious belief is just that, based on belief.They don’t need truth to believe. Belief can, and does help many people to get through rough times,and they have the right just as anyone to their beliefs as long as they don’t harm others or force their beliefs on others. Of course, one can not be forced to believe anything, they can say they do, but in their heart and mind they still have just their own beliefs. Some countries try to force people from practicing their beliefs, but it doesn’t stop their beliefs.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-are-a-christian-i-say-you-nead-to-grow-up/97955/163 "2012-03-18T00:11:07Z")

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Og like bacon.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-are-a-christian-i-say-you-nead-to-grow-up/97955/164 "2012-03-18T00:40:06Z")

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Damn right It does!

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**Author:** ![Tamex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Tamex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamex)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-are-a-christian-i-say-you-nead-to-grow-up/97955/165 "2012-03-18T01:34:02Z")

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Ah, so this must be the original creation myth of the Og meme! A holy thread in our midst! What has Og come to teach us this time?

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-are-a-christian-i-say-you-nead-to-grow-up/97955/166 "2012-03-20T00:40:01Z")

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> [@porcupine](#):
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> I find it disturbing that you keep typing “og” instead of “of”.

YOU find it disturbing?! I’m the one whose name is taken in vain here!

> [@racinchikki](#):
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> Og mad! Og smash! OG SMITE!

That’s moe like it!

> [@racinchikki](#):
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> I have no idea what you’re talking about.
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> OG SMASH!

Rock on!

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-are-a-christian-i-say-you-nead-to-grow-up/97955/167 "2012-03-20T00:46:26Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> What if Og was one of us  
> Just a slob like one of us  
> Just a stranger on the bus  
> Trying to make his way home

Music to my bus-weary ears.

> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Hot diggety dog, it’s the origin-of-Og thread, risen from the dead!!  
> There is no og but Og, and **racinchikki** is his prophet.

As the _ **One True Og** _, I say that the choice of prophet is still pending.

(Sorry, racinchikk.)

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-are-a-christian-i-say-you-nead-to-grow-up/97955/168 "2012-03-20T05:48:08Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Then vote Libertarian, inclusion of religion and state in government is explicitly forbidden.

Lol, best post in the thread. Disbelieving in evolution, letting states ban abortion, gay marriage and set up parochial schools and campaigning unremittingly for prayer in schools… Unless you meant anarcho-libertarian?

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**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-are-a-christian-i-say-you-nead-to-grow-up/97955/169 "2012-03-23T05:09:35Z")

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DOWN goes Frazier!!!  
My problem with some religious people is the way they throw persecution around; and have screaming tantrums because other people are not the same religion , or have told them to get the fuck off their property or throw their pamphlets into the trash or recycling bins.

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