# You say you want a Jihad?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-jihad/82435
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [September 18, 2001, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-jihad/82435 "2001-09-18T18:57:56Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@davesink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davesink)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2001, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-jihad/82435/1 "2001-09-18T18:57:56Z")
Just something to consider before we enter WWIII:
[http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/abomb/mp10.htm](http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/abomb/mp10.htm)
from the Avalon Project at the Yale Law School
The Atomic Bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki :
Chapter 10 - Total Casualties
TABLE A
Estimates of Casualties Hiroshima / Nagasaki
Pre-raid population 255,000 / 195,000
Dead 66,000 / 39,000
Injured 69,000 / 25,000
Total Casualties 135,000 / 64,000
…Thought this might be appropriate since many are drawing comparisons between the WTC disaster and Pearl Harbor.
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### Author:  [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2001, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-jihad/82435/2 "2001-09-18T19:32:00Z")
I’m sorry, I fail to see why this is appropriate. I haven’t heard any serious suggestions that we use nukes against them. Have you?
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### Author:  [@davesink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davesink)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2001, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-jihad/82435/3 "2001-09-18T20:06:50Z")
Have I heard it seriously suggested that we use nuclear weapons against them? No, though I’ve heard plenty of faceitous comments to that effect. The fact is, with today’s weaponry, it wouldn’t take nuclear weapons to do plenty of damage to an already fragile Middle East and do untold damage to the innocent along with the enemy.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2001, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-jihad/82435/4 "2001-09-18T23:31:46Z")
Moving this to MPSIMS.
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### Author:  [@kinoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kinoons)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2001, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-jihad/82435/5 "2001-09-19T04:19:46Z")
I dont have the numbers available right off hand, but didnt the fire bombing of Tokyo and the successive bombing of Drezden cause more deaths than the two atomic bombs?
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### Author:  [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2001, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-jihad/82435/6 "2001-09-19T04:56:09Z")
> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by kinoons \*
> \*\*I dont have the numbers available right off hand, but didnt the fire bombing of Tokyo and the successive bombing of Drezden cause more deaths than the two atomic bombs? \*\*
Dresden : according to [this site](http://www.uni-jena.de/~p7week/frauenkirche/MASON.HTM), 100,000.
Tokyo : [80,000](http://www.wcflyers.com/aviation_history.html#Mar), after the first raid.
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### Author:  [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2001, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-jihad/82435/7 "2001-09-19T04:59:57Z")
I think the point of the OP is that just about everyone who’s started a conflict with the United States has had their ass royally kicked.