# You say you want a revoluuuution **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 7, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698 "2017-07-07T15:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/1 "2017-07-07T15:23:58Z")
Here’s [a group](https://refusefascism.org/2017/06/09/july-15-2017-in-cities-across-the-country-demonstrate/) attempting to raise an army of protesters “inspiring people to see the possibility of ousting this regime through unleashing the tremendous power of the people – aiming for the time when millions can be moved to fill the streets of cities and towns day after day and night after night, declaring this whole regime illegitimate – Demanding, and Not Stopping, Until The Trump/Pence Regime Is Driven from Power.” Because populist revolutions against elected governments tend to turn out _so_ well. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/2 "2017-07-07T15:32:39Z")
Yeah, it’s too bad there aren’t a couple of different ways that the current “regime” could be ousted peacefully. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/3 "2017-07-07T15:36:49Z")
Sure. You know it’s gonna be alright. By all means let’s exhaust the peaceful alternatives first. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/4 "2017-07-07T15:39:16Z")
How many of these assholes actually voted? ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/5 "2017-07-07T15:39:36Z")
This thread title chaps my hide. Lennon very clearly sings “you say you want a revoolutiooon.” C’mon, man, get it right. (Low energy nutpicking – SAD!) ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/6 "2017-07-07T15:46:09Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Here’s [a group](https://refusefascism.org/2017/06/09/july-15-2017-in-cities-across-the-country-demonstrate/) attempting to raise an army of protesters “inspiring people to see the possibility of ousting this regime through unleashing the tremendous power of the people – aiming for the time when millions can be moved to fill the streets of cities and towns day after day and night after night, declaring this whole regime illegitimate – Demanding, and Not Stopping, Until The Trump/Pence Regime Is Driven from Power.” > > Because populist revolutions against elected governments tend to turn out _so_ well. Nonviolent mass protests??? The horror! I’ve never heard of such a thing. It’s the end of democracy as we know it. Quick, everyone, start beating up anyone who looks lefty. I’ll tell you when to stop. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/7 "2017-07-07T15:48:03Z")
I wouldn’t dismiss this call to action so quickly. The first step to power is clearly seizing the Catalina Park and Splash Pad in Tucson. The rest of the nation would then fall like dominoes. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/8 "2017-07-07T15:55:31Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > Nonviolent mass protests??? The horror! I’ve never heard of such a thing. It’s the end of democracy as we know it. Quick, everyone, start beating up anyone who looks lefty. I’ll tell you when to stop. “Nonviolent protests” and “drive the elected government from power” do _not_ go hand in hand. But thanks for the disingenuous, dismissive bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/9 "2017-07-07T15:56:10Z")
Yeah, on further read, they’re just calling for peaceful protests. If that scares you, that’s your problem. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/10 "2017-07-07T16:02:19Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > “Nonviolent protests” and “drive the elected government from power” do _not_ go hand in hand. But thanks for the disingenuous, dismissive bullshit. Large enough continuous protests, mass general strikes, and enough outrage at the current administration could theoretically influence Congress to oust the madman in the White House. I’m not counting on it, but I can see the appeal in trying. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/11 "2017-07-07T16:50:25Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > “Nonviolent protests” and “drive the elected government from power” do _not_ go hand in hand. But thanks for the disingenuous, dismissive bullshit. If you are truly alarmed by this, I suggest you go hide in your bunker for the next several decades. The world must be a horribly scary place for you. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/12 "2017-07-07T17:02:10Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Yeah, on further read, they’re just calling for peaceful protests. > > If that scares you, that’s your problem. I’m scared. Terrified. I’m gonna get mah gunz and defend the things that are sacred to me … the bowling alley and the BBQ joint. Murrica! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/13 "2017-07-07T17:11:19Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > “Nonviolent protests” and “drive the elected government from power” do _not_ go hand in hand. But thanks for the disingenuous, dismissive bullshit. Heh, the guy who put “army” and “revolution” in his OP, when neither term appears on the page you’re complaining about, says _I’m_ disingenuous. Nice alarmist bullshit there. Are you unaware that Congress can remove the President from office? Or that mass protests are a way to pressure Congress to action? That’s why the page says “demand” so many times, they’re talking about making political demands. This isn’t complicated. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/14 "2017-07-07T17:40:50Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > If you are truly alarmed by this, I suggest you go hide in your bunker for the next several decades. The world must be a horribly scary place for you. I’m not “alarmed” by it–I’m pitting it. I’m pitting the idiots who think a legally and fairly elected president is “illegitimate”, and that a mass populist insurrection to overthrow that legally and fairly elected president would not be the death knell of American democracy. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/15 "2017-07-07T17:40:52Z")
I looked for news coverage of this organization’s past rallies, including the “People’s Trial of Donald Trump” in Berkeley two months ago, and the “Refuse Fascism Potluck Meet and Greet” (not making that up) in Tuscon on the same day. I could not find anything. Clearly a lamestream media conspiracy to conceal these seditious meetings that threaten Making America Great Again! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/16 "2017-07-08T15:23:40Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I’m not “alarmed” by it–I’m pitting it. I’m pitting the idiots who think a legally and fairly elected president is “illegitimate”, and that a mass populist insurrection to overthrow that legally and fairly elected president would not be the death knell of American democracy. I will not consider him to be legit until and unless we get to the bottom of Russian meddling in the election. He got elected courtesy of the Russians and Comey. So there is no “moving forward”. The way the Orange Bastard keeps trying to scuttle the investigations screams GUILTY to me. So no, the fat fuck is NOT legit. He’s never been legit in his fucking life. Ever. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/17 "2017-07-08T16:15:38Z")
His parents were, in fact, married. To each other. So, for a brief, shining moment… ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/18 "2017-07-08T16:22:06Z")
The difference between the Trump administration and the communist regimes of Eastern Europe that were deposed by mass demonstrations circa 1990 is that a large number of people actually voted for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/19 "2017-07-08T19:02:20Z")
Fascists want the state to be run by the military. Trump would never support that. It takes attention away from him. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698/20 "2017-07-08T19:14:08Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Here’s [a group](https://refusefascism.org/2017/06/09/july-15-2017-in-cities-across-the-country-demonstrate/) attempting to raise an army of protesters “inspiring people to see the possibility of ousting this regime through unleashing the tremendous power of the people – aiming for the time when millions can be moved to fill the streets of cities and towns day after day and night after night, declaring this whole regime illegitimate – Demanding, and Not Stopping, Until The Trump/Pence Regime Is Driven from Power.” > > Because populist revolutions against elected governments tend to turn out _so_ well. > [@Slash1972](#): > > Yeah, it’s too bad there aren’t a couple of different ways that the current “regime” could be ousted peacefully. If only there were an amendment to the constitution that would allow people the right to peaceably assemble, to speak, and to petition the government for grievances, otherwise, what they are doing would be outright unconstitutional. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-say-you-want-a-revoluuuution/790698.md?page=2)