# You see, it's stuff like this that makes people think Teabaggers are a bunch of right-wing cranks.

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**Created:** [February 18, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558 "2010-02-18T23:30:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/61 "2010-02-20T00:29:06Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> But that’s just the level of discourse in this country now, on both sides. I’m as far left as damn near anybody on these boards, but let’s not pretend similar insults weren’t lobbed at Bush. And if McCain/Palin were in office now, I have no doubt the Nazi comparisons would be fairly commonplace.

But I doubt anyone would be retarded enough to call McCain a communist nazi.

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**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/62 "2010-02-20T00:50:45Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> But that’s just the level of discourse in this country now, on both sides. I’m as far left as damn near anybody on these boards, but let’s not pretend similar insults weren’t lobbed at Bush. And if McCain/Palin were in office now, I have no doubt the Nazi comparisons would be fairly commonplace.

I don’t doubt you’d get those comments from some of the lefty wackos but that guy is an elected official. I don’t believe you would see an elected Democrat calling the standing president a liar in the middle of his speech or going on the radio and talking about Obama wanting to put American’s in Nazi style prison camps. And even if that were to happen I’m pretty sure they be told by their own party to shut the fuck up.

Did any Dems go on the radio and accuse Bush of being fascist? Also, serious question, can one be fascist and communist?

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/63 "2010-02-20T00:57:48Z")

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True - the elected official qualification changes things. I was more focusing on message boards dipshits like our boy **polecat**. But no, I can’t think of any dems in prominent positions making similar statements about Bush.

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**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/64 "2010-02-20T01:11:48Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> True - the elected official qualification changes things. I was more focusing on message boards dipshits like our boy **polecat**. But no, I can’t think of any dems in prominent positions making similar statements about Bush.

I’m just waiting for them all to start [legislatin South Korean style!](http://www.loweringthebar.net/2008/12/legislation-breaks-out-during-brawl-in-south-korean-assembly.html)

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/65 "2010-02-20T01:24:05Z")

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> [@Rack-a-Bones](#):
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> Not just them. Even elected officials. I give you [Matt Shea-R, Spokane, WA](http://www.seattleweekly.com/2010-02-17/news/one-loon-for-tea/)

\*[Sigh]\*I live in his district (although I certainly did NOT vote for him) and, until recently, this guy had such a low profile hardly anybody around here could identify him as their representative. Appealing to the right-wing crackpot crowd is his way of getting attention. Unfortunately, all idiots like him do is perpetuate the stereotype prevelant in the Seattle area that Spokanites and other people from Eastern Washington are trigger-happy paranoid racist reactionaries who still see Reds hiding everywhere. That, in turn, discourages people from moving–or even visiting–here and encourages smart people to leave.

(It’s a damn shame that the only way to elected around here is to put an “R” in front of your name. Too many people don’t seem to care about anything else when they’re voting.)

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/66 "2010-02-20T01:27:30Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> First, some numbnuts has to come along and tell us how this new Republican is also not representative of the Republican party. Just like all the crazy Republicans who are also not representative of the Republican party who came before them.

And according to conservatives, neither are we progressive Republicans

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/67 "2010-02-20T02:26:47Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Those are Obama’s fault now?

Pickle you, kumquat! Seriously, dude, this reply is so fucking retarded I have no idea how to respond to it.

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/68 "2010-02-20T02:42:24Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> :rolleyes: I truly, honestly did not realize you were **that** much of an idiot.

(shrug) This country is in serous fucking trouble, trouble so bad that our survival as a nation is very much in question. You want to pretend it’s not so, you go right ahead. You go on whistling past the graveyard.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/69 "2010-02-20T02:44:32Z")

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> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> (shrug) This country is in serous fucking trouble, trouble so bad that our survival as a nation is very much in question. You want to pretend it’s not so, you go right ahead. You go on whistling past the graveyard.

Will you take back your baseless assertion that Obama is quasi-Marxist?

Cause if you don’t, it will be pretty fucking hilarious.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/70 "2010-02-20T02:50:23Z")

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> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> Yeah, I’ve got relatives in the service and others who have been. There’s also a cop in the family. They feel pretty much the same way I do about the government these days. If you’re counting on the military and the police to preserve the quasi-Stalinist state Obama is trying to set up, you may be in for a very ugly surprise. Did you and Vinyl Turnip throw keggers on hearing the news about Waco and Ruby Ridge?

Oh, they will preserve it, just as they took an oath to do. It’s their job, it’s their sworn duty. Protect and defend the constitution, uphold the law, all that stuff. And, it’s no where close to a Stalinist police state. In a Stalinist state, you’d have already been reported to the secret police and probably “disapeared” already. Maybe your family too.

Think on that for a while.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/71 "2010-02-20T03:11:44Z")

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> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> You want to pretend it’s not so, you go right ahead. You go on whistling past the graveyard.

Seems to have worked for about [the past year:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10923662&postcount=45)

> [@LonesomePolecat on 3/10/09](#):
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> I don’t know if you’re aware of it or not, but a lot of people are talking about armed rebellion these days. I’m hearing it from people whom I never thought would ever advocate such a thing. It may–in fact, it probably will–come to nothing, but I think a lot of people underestimate just how ugly the country’s mood is these days.

Or even the past [forty years](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10439185&postcount=39)?

> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> > [@Declan](#):
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> > If it didn’t happen during desegragation and the civil rights movement, then iits hard to think what would cause it.
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> Well, a few years later the Black Panthers, the Black Liberation Army, the Symbionese Liberation Army and the Weather Underground certainly thought armed insurrection was a real possibility.

**LP** , you do seem to have a certain persistent wistful fondness for the idea of a violent insurrection in the US, but I think your wish may be father to your expectation here.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/72 "2010-02-20T03:17:05Z")

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> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> (shrug) This country is in serous fucking trouble, trouble so bad that our survival as a nation is very much in question. You want to pretend it’s not so, you go right ahead. You go on whistling past the graveyard.

Care to give a rough, high-level explanation, or couple of bullet-points why you think this is so?

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/73 "2010-02-20T03:38:13Z")

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> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> (shrug) This country is in serous fucking trouble, trouble so bad that our survival as a nation is very much in question. You want to pretend it’s not so, you go right ahead. You go on whistling past the graveyard.

Yeah! I mean, christ, they went and put a nigger in the White House! Good lord, what are all us whiteys gonna go now.

I’ve got cop family too. And I don’t give a shit what they say. That’s what they think. So do you, Polecat.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/74 "2010-02-20T03:57:41Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Yeah! I mean, christ, they went and put a nigger in the White House! Good lord, what are all us whiteys gonna go now…

I have faced that question, and come to a fearsome conclusion: I must learn to dance.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/75 "2010-02-20T04:03:46Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> And, it’s no where close to a Stalinist police state. In a Stalinist state, you’d have already been reported to the secret police and probably “disapeared” already. Maybe your family too.

Uncle Joe didn’t “disappear” people. He often did it in the middle of the day. “Disappearing” give plausible deniability. Stalin didn’t give a shit about deniability because it diluted the message.

I’m amused that conservatives still assume liberals admire Stalin, like some leftwingers did in the 30s. No, he was a monster equal to Hitler and even commies like Nikita “We will bury you” Krushchev repudiated him.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/76 "2010-02-20T04:04:29Z")

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How did the listeners to the speaker in the OP respond to her?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/77 "2010-02-20T04:05:48Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I have faced that question, and come to a fearsome conclusion: I must learn to dance.

You and I are truly fucked. I can claim my Minnesota heritage but you are an immigrant.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/78 "2010-02-20T04:18:12Z")

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Oh, hell, Texans can’t dance any better, why they invented the two step, that’s all the further we can count.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/79 "2010-02-20T04:25:13Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> How did the listeners to the speaker in the OP respond to her?

Laughed and cheered. You can see the incident in the video in the OP’s link.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-its-stuff-like-this-that-makes-people-think-teabaggers-are-a-bunch-of-right-wing-cranks/529558/80 "2010-02-20T04:27:32Z")

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> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> (shrug) This country is in serous fucking trouble, trouble so bad that our survival as a nation is very much in question. You want to pretend it’s not so, you go right ahead. You go on whistling past the graveyard.

If that’s true, I’m not sure you’re on the side you think you’re on.

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