# \[you\] See Spot run

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-spot-run/64375>\
**Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\
**Created:** [May 4, 2001, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-spot-run/64375 "2001-05-04T18:15:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cheeses\_Priced\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Cheeses\_Priced\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheeses_Priced_1)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2001, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-spot-run/64375/1 "2001-05-04T18:15:58Z")

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Isn’t that how it should be… with an understood “you”? Sure as hell makes a lot more sense like that.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2001, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-spot-run/64375/2 "2001-05-04T23:55:50Z")

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(a) Wrong forum, this is a Cecil column, not a Staff Report.  
(b) Imperatives in English often–even typically–have no expressed subject. This helps differentiate them from declarative sentences.

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2001, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-spot-run/64375/3 "2001-05-05T01:14:09Z")

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The link to Cecil’s column: [How do you diagram the sentence, “See Spot run”?](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a980814a.html)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2001, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-spot-run/64375/4 "2001-05-05T19:49:52Z")

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Moving to Comments on Cecil’s Columns.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2001, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-spot-run/64375/5 "2001-05-07T01:17:01Z")

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Thank you for the assist, Chronos and bibliophage.

Welcome to the SDMB, and thank you for posting your comment.

Please include a link to Cecil’s column if it’s on the straight dope web site. To include a link, it can be as simple as including the web page location in your post (make sure there is a space **before** and **after** the text of the URL).

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**Author:** ![davanden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@davanden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davanden)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2001, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-spot-run/64375/6 "2001-05-08T12:32:53Z")

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It makes more sense to treat “run” as a gerund, with the “ing” omitted. “See Spot running” appears to mean exactly the same thing as “See Spot run.”

–Dav

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2001, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-see-spot-run/64375/7 "2001-05-08T19:52:44Z")

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No, I think the objective infinitive is correct. Example:

Help Arnold post the link.

Subject - implied “You”  
verb - imperative acting verb “Help”  
Direct object - noun clause  
subject - “Arnold”  
verb - “(to) post”  
object - “the link”

The verb in the noun clause is infinitive.
