# You-Solve-It Mafia Game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 11, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636 "2007-12-11T18:21:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/381 "2007-12-17T20:10:32Z")
[QUOTE=Freudian Slit] Perhaps one reason **faithfool** is giving up so easily is because she doesn’t want to reveal the dossier? That is, she assumes that if she just votes for herself, she doesn’t have to make a big reveal because it’ll be moot. She does have a chance of squeaking by if she doesn’t get an exact majority of votes, though. [/QUOTE] Oh good grief. The real deal is, without question, that I don’t know what I’m doing and being straight up is apparently not something done in this game. I am the same person online that I am anywhere else and unfortunately, I never considering being any other way. So, once again, I’m offering up my dossier (ha **Hal**!) because that’s what I would’ve done regardless of which side of the factions I fell on. And ultimately, since I believe in doing the greatest good, I won’t even do what the evil little guy on my shoulder is hinting at… I’ll still oblige as suggested of letting out all the details when I’m offed. Because that’s going to happen no matter what, sooner than later. Hope that helps, although I doubt it will and everyone will assume I’m pulling some scam. So be it, but at least I’ve tried. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/382 "2007-12-17T20:21:13Z")
\If you were so inclined, you could go back and read the Mafia 2 thread which was my first game and laugh at my colossal fuck-up. We all started with a first game. We have all made mistakes. It’s not like you’ve posted something in the game thread instead of on the scum board! (heehee, couldn’t resist) Roll with it baby! Have fun.\ ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/383 "2007-12-17T20:24:07Z")
[QUOTE=Hockey Monkey] It’s not like you’ve posted something in the game thread instead of on the scum board! (heehee, couldn’t resist) Roll with it baby! Have fun.\ [/QUOTE] Did, ah, someone do that in the past? ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/384 "2007-12-17T20:26:55Z")
[QUOTE=Hockey Monkey] I can’t say how without giving the scum the ability to lie effectively, thus negating my (hopefully) ability to pick out the lie. Vague enough? 😛 Sorry, it’s not a magic bag thing, but if I spell it out, then we lose any advantage I might have to be able to do it. [/QUOTE] So, you’re saying you found the lying scum in my little fake scenario? I thought you were joking and implying that I was scum (which is fine, I can take it) 🙂 Without giving away your secrets, which one is it? ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/385 "2007-12-17T20:37:37Z")
[QUOTE=ShadowFacts] So, you’re saying you found the lying scum in my little fake scenario? I thought you were joking and implying that I was scum (which is fine, I can take it) 🙂 Without giving away your secrets, which one is it? [/QUOTE] If I were to guess, I would say that Player D is the lying. What do I win? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/386 "2007-12-17T20:40:03Z")
[QUOTE=Freudian Slit] Did, ah, someone do that in the past? [/QUOTE] :grumble: He is dead to us now. :mad: Oh, and cookies did it in Firefly too. But I wan’t playing in that one, so I care less. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/387 "2007-12-17T20:42:05Z")
[QUOTE=ShadowFacts] So, you’re saying you found the lying scum in my little fake scenario? I thought you were joking and implying that I was scum (which is fine, I can take it) 🙂 Without giving away your secrets, which one is it? [/QUOTE] It has nothing to do with your fake scenario. Everything to do with the real scenario. I didn’t even look that closely at your fake one. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/388 "2007-12-17T20:44:36Z")
[QUOTE=Freudian Slit] Did, ah, someone do that in the past? [/QUOTE] I’m not saying any names but their initials are \*\*Cookies \*\* and **Santo Rugger**. 😃😛 's all good. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/389 "2007-12-17T23:23:14Z")
Very little conversation… I expect everyone to state their opinion on how we should handle the Dossiers. I think most of us would agree that avoiding the issue is very suspicious. At some point I’ll compile a list of what each player thinks we should do with the Dossier and anyone who hasn’t hazarded an opinion will be at the top of my vote list. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/390 "2007-12-17T23:55:41Z")
I also think we should all expose our Dossiers sooner than later, but I highly doubt we’re going to arrive at a consensus as to a method for sharing it. We’re already stuck in a situation where we each have to manage multiple categories of Dossier data: [ul] [li]Public data (mod-posted)[/li][li]Private data (mod-pm’d)[/li][li]Divulged data[/li][li]Townie death-scene data[/li][li]Scum death-scene data[/li][li]Public data that matches other players[/li][li]Private data that matches other players[/li]etc… [/ul] As such, I fear that we will have opinionated townsfolk willing and able to throw votes at people based solely on how other players weigh on in any number of the Dossier-related debates. Even though such votes might land on a scum now and then, I fear that quite often those votes will be townies voting for townies. In order to try and inject some method to our madness, I will hold onto my dossier items in the hopes that the basketball randomization will get some more traction. But if we continue to just stew in our current rut of simultaneous debates for more than another day or two, I will probably just share it. I too noticed **faithfool’s** statement, and the possible “out” that was provided by **Mtgman**. I’m inclined to agree with what has already been said, that from what I know of **Mtgman** he would not have gone out of his way to manufacture an alibi, even for a newbie. As such, I’m willing to give **faithfool** the benefit of the doubt. For now 😉 ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/391 "2007-12-18T00:02:34Z")
My dossier, the english version: (Public) I have walked along the shore of the Bay of Pigs. My great-great-grandfather was a duke in Sicily. I’ve travelled with royalty in torn T-shirt and jeans. I believe that aliens are stealing my socks. I believe that the Apollo moon landings were filmed in Hollywood. I have memorized the entire “D” section of the dictionary. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/392 "2007-12-18T00:07:52Z")
Has there been a definitive decision on who posts when? Or is it one of those just-do-it-whenever things? ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/393 "2007-12-18T00:19:28Z")
I tried to construct a random order, but since **Rysto** and **MHaye** still haven’t decided whether or not to participate, it seems like it’s actually slowing the process down, which is why I went ahead and revealed mine. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/394 "2007-12-18T00:38:52Z")
Fine. Then I’ll put mine up and spoiler it in case anyone decides that This Was a Very Bad Idea after all. [ul] [li]I believe the Honda Element is a good-looking car.[/li][li]I enjoy practicing the cello.[/li][li]I have performed an exorcism.[/li][li]I provided a line in a song that became a top 20 hit for the band Traffic.[/li][li]I have been shot in the head with a muzzleloading .45 caliber pistol and in leg with a bow and arrow.[/li][li]I voted for a boy for prom queen. [/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/395 "2007-12-18T02:05:45Z")
Well, despite my misgivings it seems we’re sharing dossiers. Here’s my private traits: I was in a biker movie. I believe the cruelty makes foie gras all the more tasty. Farts are really funny. People only pretend to not think they are. I believe that the world would be a much better place if about 25% of the population were taken out back and shot. I started a forest fire by playing with matches. **MHaye** , you’re up next. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/396 "2007-12-18T02:14:06Z")
Wow, **Rysto**. A biker arsonist who promotes genocide and animal cruelty. I’d wanna keep that one under wraps too 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/397 "2007-12-18T02:42:17Z")
Also, **faithfool** , don’t get discouraged on your first day in your first game. If it makes you feel any better, I’ve been lynched day 1 twice (once via dotchan), killed night 1 once, and forced to role-claim (one real, one fake) on day 3 twice. I should just go ahead and change my user name to zuma v.2 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/398 "2007-12-18T02:43:59Z")
I just got here (spending too much time at the Other Mafia Game) and want to weigh in to say that since two people already have found something that might be a pattern, I don’t think it will hurt to reveal the dossiers, and it might help, and I hope people continue the reveals. And what number am I? ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/399 "2007-12-18T02:55:10Z")
1. [del]Rysto[/del] 2. MHaye 3. One And Only Wanderers 4. Freudian Slit 5. ShadowFacts 6. [del]zuma[/del] 7. brewha 8. Hawkeyeop 9. sachertorte 10.Kat 11.ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 12.HazelNutCoffee 13.storyteller0910 14.[del]faithfool[/del] 15.Hal Briston ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/400 "2007-12-18T14:15:54Z")
I’ve been doing some research and comparing dossiers. I’ve found a pattern which everyone who’s revealed matches. Everyone but **Zuma**. Here’s where I’m conflicted. If I’m right and **Zuma** is scum, why the push for dossier revelations? **Zuma** , I believe that you have made up four of your traits. Either come clean with your real ones with an explanation why you lied about them, or I’m forced to vote for you. for now, FOS **Zuma**! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=21)