# You-Solve-It Mafia Game

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 11, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636 "2007-12-11T18:21:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/481 "2007-12-19T17:01:57Z")

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[QUOTE=ShadowFacts]  
You’re right. It is stupid to assume that scum will lie about their dossiers. My bad.  
[/QUOTE]  
Man, I need to get my snarkometer calibrated – I simply cannot tell if you’re being serious there or not.

Anyway, either the scum will tell tell the truth, and we’ll hopefully be able to suss them out as more of us reveal their secrets (posthumously, unfortunately), or they’ll lie and hopefully I’ll be able to tell.

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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/482 "2007-12-19T17:26:23Z")

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[QUOTE=brewha]  
I apologize - to you and to **Zuma**. It was out of line. It seems I should have a breathalyzer between me and the dope. That will be the last of my drunk posting here.  
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We’re cool, thanks for the response. Now, game on.

Enjoy,  
Steven

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/483 "2007-12-19T18:10:03Z")

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[QUOTE=ShadowFacts]  
(That said, **faithfool** , if you really are town, cut the crap and play. Sacrificing yourself is detrimental to the town, period.)  
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I’ve been trying to play, but all the snarking and nitpicking haven’t seemed a very conducive environment to welcome those who do. not. have. a. friggin’. clue. Kind of like the above statement, it’s a bit off putting when you’re still attempting to do your best (and have said so) FOR THE TOWN and yet you’re branded as being some sort of… what? The hell if I know. Geesh, how frustrating. But just in case anyone missed it before, I’ll reiterate again that I am trying to do my part. And just to show that’s the case:  
**unvote faithfool**

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/484 "2007-12-19T18:28:04Z")

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Fret not, **faithfool** on the Mafia playground, people run up and FOS/vote you in the arm or the shin because they like you. 😉

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/485 "2007-12-19T18:42:49Z")

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[QUOTE=faithfool]  
I’ve been trying to play, but all the snarking and nitpicking haven’t seemed a very conducive environment to welcome those who do. not. have. a. friggin’. clue. Kind of like the above statement, it’s a bit off putting when you’re still attempting to do your best (and have said so) FOR THE TOWN and yet you’re branded as being some sort of… what? The hell if I know. Geesh, how frustrating. But just in case anyone missed it before, I’ll reiterate again that I am trying to do my part. And just to show that’s the case:  
**unvote faithfool**  
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I’m sorry if you found my comments to be unwelcoming. I am hardly a veteran myself - this is only my second game on the Dope and third overall. Nevertheless, let me be forward enough to offer some advice:

Don’t take game comments personally. Mafia is a game of suspicion, accusation and paranoia, by definition. You’re going to get accused and you’re going to get nit-picked, but it’s just part of the game. If someone thinks you are doing something anti-town, they’re going to say so. Nobody means it personally (99.9% of the time, anyway).

I hope you stick around and play and have a fun time, and come to enjoy being called a scum 🙂

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/486 "2007-12-19T18:52:31Z")

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Thank you **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** (Gah! How does one shorten that?), I appreciate your encouragement and to all others who have been so as well. I’m just very, very frustrated. (See, I almost typed ‘disgruntled’ and then remembered what that stood for in the context of the game and how it would be seen by the other players… :eek: )

[QUOTE=ShadowFacts]  
I’m sorry if you found my comments to be unwelcoming. I am hardly a veteran myself - this is only my second game on the Dope and third overall. Nevertheless, let me be forward enough to offer some advice:

Don’t take game comments personally. Mafia is a game of suspicion, accusation and paranoia, by definition. You’re going to get accused and you’re going to get nit-picked, but it’s just part of the game. If someone thinks you are doing something anti-town, they’re going to say so. Nobody means it personally (99.9% of the time, anyway).

I hope you stick around and play and have a fun time, and come to enjoy being called a scum 🙂  
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**ShadowFacts** , believe it or not, I thought I was prepared for all the things you mention. However, I didn’t think they’d take place even before there was suspicion to be had anywhere. Like from pre-start comments or arguments pro / con about how to do stuff, etc.. I understood that as things progressed, everything would be considered circumspect and I was looking forward to it. But to have it directed at you, as a complete newbie, when you hadn’t done anything (as far as I knew) to deserve it, has been difficult to eradicate (my ire, everyone’s questioning, not feeling sure of myself anyway) all the way 'round.

Anyway, that’s enough of my hijack for this morning. I pray that the focus will stay off me and yes, I’d have no problem coming to “enjoy being called a scum.”  
[Disclaimer: The last sentence is in direct response to **ShadowFacts** last sentence. It in no way indicates that I am or am not scum. No hidden meaning here, I swear.]

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/487 "2007-12-19T20:26:33Z")

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Ah, well now you know: Anything you say or do can and will be held against you by a rampaging lynch mob. Try not to let it get you down.\</guy who’s never been lynched before\>

FWIW, I’m taking **Mtgman** at his word and believing that the think he sent you was for a Mafia tutorial.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/488 "2007-12-19T21:50:02Z")

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Thanks Faithfool. 🙂 Welcome back to the game.

[QUOTE=faithfool]  
Thank you **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies** (Gah! How does one shorten that?)  
[/quote]  
I call her **DarkCookies**. (I had to call her something, I needed to shorten it for my vote spreadsheet.)

I haven’t had my head ripped off and stuffed up my backside. (Yet.)

I sort of assumed that if DarkCookies has problems with the name, I’ll be told.

@ **HockeyMonkey** : Please update your list : I revealed my dossier in 453.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/489 "2007-12-19T23:51:28Z")

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I think most folks just end up calling me Cookies.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/490 "2007-12-20T02:34:46Z")

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Here’s mine:

(Public) Farts are really funny. People only pretend to not think they are.

I have been an assistant on an archaeological dig in the ancient Malian capital of Djenne.

I have had a conversation with Michael Chiklis

I’ve been a model appearing on the cover of a nationwide catalog

I was once bitten by a wild animal while visiting Dollywood.

I have performed on stage at Branson, MO.

Sorry for the delay…it’s been a stressful weekend and a very busy day! I’ll try to post some more tonight.

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/491 "2007-12-20T02:49:42Z")

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Here’s mine:

(Public) I played piano with Sly Stone in a Holiday Inn restaurant.

I interviewed Pete Townshend via email, and he posted it on his website.

I once had sex in front of the Washington Monument.

I wear a size 7 shoe.

I provided a line in a song that became a top 20 hit for the band Traffic.

I’ve bowled two perfect 300 games

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/492 "2007-12-20T03:16:05Z")

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**Hawkeyeop** , I believe it’s down to just your dossier and mine remaining. Care to reveal?

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/493 "2007-12-20T03:18:48Z")

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Here we go:

(Public) I have performed an exorcism.

I’ve been on the cover of a Chicago area phone book.

I speak Swahili.

I was in a biker movie.

I’ve bowled two perfect 300 games

I’ve been a model appearing on the cover of a nationwide catalog

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/494 "2007-12-20T13:08:41Z")

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I’d like to request that day 1 be extended.

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> 7 real life days per Day. 2 real life days per Night. Length of Day and Night subject to fluctuation at Mod discretion, but this will most likely be the length for the majority of the game.

I would like the day to be extended for 48 hours. We’ve spent a week discussing dossiers and I think we need a couple more days to discuss voting. I invite everyone to discuss a day extension

We can have the day extended at mod discretion. Who here favors extending the day? Who here opposes this request?

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/495 "2007-12-20T13:13:46Z")

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**Hal** - looks like all that’s left is your reveal. I’ll spell out the pattern as soon as you give your list.

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/496 "2007-12-20T13:17:07Z")

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I’d like to spend the a few days examing the reveal of dossier discussions. In my opinion those that favored or opposed it stridently won’t get my vote. Those that were wishy-washy about it are another story. I invite everyone here to ask the mods to extend our day at their discretion. If they don’t, I’ll unvote faithfool and vote: Mhaye

**Mhaye** promised to reveal his decision within hours, but waited a day, then made us wait hours more.

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/497 "2007-12-20T13:19:30Z")

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[QUOTE=brewha]  
I apologize - to you and to **Zuma**. It was out of line. It seems I should have a breathalyzer between me and the dope. That will be the last of my drunk posting here.  
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No apologies necessary. I will warn you that drunken posts tend to get you voted off. I’m starting to think that cell phone posts do the same.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/498 "2007-12-20T13:19:40Z")

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For the record, I would be behind any move to extend day 1. A rushed decision can only be bad ofr the town at this point.

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/499 "2007-12-20T13:30:02Z")

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Extending the day won’t do much for me. I’m leaving on Sat morning and will be travelling all over the place for Christmas. I should be able to find a computer here and there, but I can’t guarantee anything.

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/500 "2007-12-20T13:31:13Z")

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Yeah… our mods said that the day could be extended at their discretion… I think if there was an effort made on our part to get it extended that they would do it. I encourage everyone to lobby for a day extension. If they don’t, we can at least take something from those who remain silent or resist a day extension. Plus I think that even if they don’t extend, we can learn something from those who oppose or do not request the day extension.

I don’t think 48 hours is too much to ask considering the time it has taken to work through the dossier mechanic.

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