# You-Solve-It Mafia Game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 11, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636 "2007-12-11T18:21:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/501 "2007-12-20T13:40:18Z")
In fact, everyone here who is pro-town would want a day extension. I encourage all of you to request it. Sorry **NAF** and **mgtman**. I think if just about everyone here demands a day extension they may give us one. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/502 "2007-12-20T13:44:03Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] In fact, everyone here who is pro-town would want a day extension. I encourage all of you to request it. Sorry **NAF** and **mgtman**. I think if just about everyone here demands a day extension they may give us one. [/QUOTE] That’s a little strong. I’m sure it’s possible to have reasons to not want an extension and still be pro-town. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/503 "2007-12-20T14:18:24Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] Yeah.. our mods said that the day could be extended at their discretion.. I think if there was an effort made on our part to get it extended that they would do it. I encourage everyone to lobby for a day extension. If they don’t, we can at least take something from those who remain silent or resist a day extension. Plus I think that even if they don’t extend, we can learn something from those who oppose or do not request the day extension. I don’t think 48 hours is too much to ask considering the time it has taken to work through the dossier mechanic. [/QUOTE] You know what? I don’t agree. I think an extension would be of benefit to the town, and I _am_ town, but I oppose an extension. If we spent seven days chatting about the dossiers and not about who to lynch, then that’s: (1) bad collective play on our part; and (2) good play on the part of the scum. It would be incredibly unfair to grant an extension in such a case. I wouldn’t want that sort of advantage, any more than I’d want to be granted a fourth strike if I swing and miss at a third. And if y’all want to lynch me for this opinion, that’s certainly your prerogative, but I would rather win fair than get mod-granted advantages and win in that way. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/504 "2007-12-20T14:23:21Z")
Right now the day ends in 31hrs and 15 mins. I think if we start discussing the dossiers we may be able to come to a concesus. I’m not at all opposed to extending the day - I’m just afraid if we wait for **NAF** ’s answer, we’d be wasting time if he refuses to extend the day. NAF, can we get an extension? I don’t see the need to wait for **Hal** ’s reveal. He’s already set himself apart from the crowd by claiming a power role. And, if he is scum, he could easily make up a dossier based on the (by my count) 64 characteristics that have already been posted. If we don’t hear from **NAF** or **MtgMan** by 10:00 (1 hr 40min) I’m going ahead with the discussion. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/505 "2007-12-20T14:39:02Z")
story just earned a spot on my trusted town list. He’s completely wrong of course, but scum would not so openly take that position ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/506 "2007-12-20T14:45:38Z")
I’m with Storyteller on this one. I assume the purpose of allowing extensions was to account for non game related events (holidays etc.) and they would be given if it was fair to both sides of the game. Would you think it was right for the town to get an extension if there was a role claim within the last couple hours of a day? By outright claiming that the extention is to help the town, I’d say it goes against the spirit of the extension offer. It certainly not anyones fault besides us townfolk that we were so disorganized in revealing our dossiers. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/507 "2007-12-20T14:46:16Z")
**Storyteller** is right in that it is unfair to scum, and I have been the biggest scum apologist to date. Scum never really had a chance in just about every game we’ve played. There’s a reason I like this game… scum have a chance. We cannot mislynch 18 times and have 3 backup doctors protect 8 cops ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/508 "2007-12-20T14:52:14Z")
Asking for an extension because we have collectively noodled around and not gotten down to business isn’t fair to anyone playing. I’m not in favor of an extension of the day. We still have some time to discuss the lynch. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/509 "2007-12-20T14:58:28Z")
We’ll probably fuck up the lynch and kill a noisy townie yet again. I propose we lynch one of the quiet ones ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/510 "2007-12-20T15:03:04Z")
I never really thought of the fairness to the scum. We knew what the length of the day was and we wasted a bunch of time. Let’s sally forth! [Here’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=443152&page=1&pp=50&highlight=truths)the big pattern I’ve been talking about. It turns out, the more that I research it, the more it is worthless to determining scum. It seems out moderators took most of our traits from that thread - but not all. My original suspicion of **Zuma** was that some of his traits didn’t show up in that thread - such as ‘aliens steal my socks’. But with more and more reveals, I found several more that didn’t show up in the thread. I kept thinking that it was scum showing themselves, until someone posted a characteristic that wasn’t in that thread along with one of my own characteristics before I had revealed it. So, while the characterisics may help in determining whose lying, unless we can find where the rest came from, the dossiers appear to be worthless. I’m guessing that the traits not from that thread may have just come from **NAF** ’s head. Which means there’s no way to track them. Our best bet on determining scum at this point would be to see who tried to delay the reveals. Who wasted our time? Unless **MHaye** can explain why he took so long on his reveal: Vote MHaye ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/511 "2007-12-20T15:20:08Z")
I propose a homework assignment. Take this list: 1.storyteller0910 2.HazelNutCoffee 3.Freudian Slit 4.brewha 5.MHaye 6.ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 7.sachertorte 8.Hawkeyeop 9.ShadowFacts [del]10.Santo Rugger[/del] 11. Pleonast 12. One And Only Wanderers 13. Rysto 14. Hal Briston 15. faithfool 16. zuma 17. Hockey Monkey 18. Kat 19. Diomedes and do some research on the person under your name. **Dio** you skip back to the top and research **Story**. **Rysto** you can skip **Hal** for now and do **Faithfool**. Find their characteristics and try to match them to characteristics in the 2 truths and 1 lie thread. CTRL F works really well for this. Come back here and post the ones not on that thread. Maybe we can find a theme. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/512 "2007-12-20T15:26:04Z")
I’m good with **brewha**. I also think he’s town. Oooh there I said it. We need to get away from always lynching the noisy townie on day 1. **Mhaye** and his delay tactics are a good lynch for me at this time. Trusted: Doimedes Pleonast brewha story So there. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/513 "2007-12-20T15:28:37Z")
I like yourt idea. Hockeymonkey will be investigated this holiday season. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/514 "2007-12-20T15:29:16Z")
Here’s what I found out on **MHaye** His public trait - \*\* I have handled and fed a lot of snakes, alligators and crocodiles\*\*- is on the 2Ta1L thread. None of these are, but they are all shared with at least one other person **As for my dossier; my love of Zombie humour is well known.** **I believe the Honda Element is a good-looking car.** **I enjoy practising the cello.** **I played piano with Sly Stone in a Holiday Inn restaurant.** This one is neither in the thread or shard with anyone. **I have met Chuck Norris** ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/515 "2007-12-20T15:32:28Z")
Rysto’s dossier facts I couldn’t find in the thread I wear a size 7 shoe. I was in a biker movie. I believe the cruelty makes foie gras all the more tasty. Farts are really funny. People only pretend to not think they are. I believe that the world would be a much better place if about 25% of the population were taken out back and shot. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/516 "2007-12-20T15:34:03Z")
[QUOTE=brewha] I propose a homework assignment. Take this list: 1.storyteller0910 2.HazelNutCoffee 3.Freudian Slit 4.brewha 5.MHaye 6.ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 7.sachertorte 8.Hawkeyeop 9.ShadowFacts [del]10.Santo Rugger[/del] 11. Pleonast 12. One And Only Wanderers 13. Rysto 14. Hal Briston 15. faithfool 16. zuma 17. Hockey Monkey 18. Kat 19. Diomedes and do some research on the person under your name. **Dio** you skip back to the top and research **Story**. **Rysto** you can skip **Hal** for now and do **Faithfool**. Find their characteristics and try to match them to characteristics in the 2 truths and 1 lie thread. CTRL F works really well for this. Come back here and post the ones not on that thread. Maybe we can find a theme. [/QUOTE] Already done…I’ll try to post a link soon to my spreadsheet. The only one I don’t have in there is Hal and I wanted to get all of the dossiers before drawing any parallels. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/517 "2007-12-20T15:36:36Z")
Another fun fact, all of **MHayes** traits (except for the Chuck Norris one) were posted before he posted his. There’s no reason he couldn’t have taken all of them from other players. I’m pretty confident that he lied about his dossier. If you can’t be trusted, I see no place for you at this retreat. I’m happy with my vote. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/518 "2007-12-20T15:37:03Z")
**OAOW** , don’t take it personally when I say you haven’t done your homework. Rysto’s traits about the shoe size and the biker movie are in fact in the Two Truths and a Lie thread. His other traits are in another thread. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/519 "2007-12-20T15:39:33Z")
I was afraid someone else was doing a Spreadsheet. If I can find a place to host mine, I’ll post it as well. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/520 "2007-12-20T15:41:08Z")
Some driveby comments on this. [QUOTE=brewha] Here’s what I found out on **MHaye** His public trait - \*\* I have handled and fed a lot of snakes, alligators and crocodiles\*\*- is on the 2Ta1L thread. [/quote] That’s not my public trait, and I never said it was. Read [post=9285974]my post[/post] again. > [@](#): > > None of these are, but they are all shared with at least one other person > **As for my dossier; my love of Zombie humour is well known.** > **I believe the Honda Element is a good-looking car.** > **I enjoy practising the cello.** > **I played piano with Sly Stone in a Holiday Inn restaurant.** > This one is neither in the thread or shard with anyone. > **I have met Chuck Norris** Since I’m very uncertain that the “Two truths and a lie” thread has anything to do with the distribution of the traits, I’ll do **DarkCookies** later. I have a few other things I want to deal with first, some of which are even related to this game. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=27)