# You-Solve-It Mafia Game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 11, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636 "2007-12-11T18:21:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/641 "2007-12-24T02:26:25Z")
RIP, **Cookies.** :: crosses self :: I’ll withhold further musings until the death scene is posted. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/642 "2007-12-24T15:20:18Z")
[QUOTE=NAF1138] The note on her chest reads “All work and no play makes Cookies a dull sheep”. [/QUOTE] Let me just make it absolutely clear that I had _nothing_ to do with that. Sorry to see you go, **Cookies**. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/643 "2007-12-24T15:34:37Z")
[color=blue] vote: faithfool You know… because she’s scum. And we should take advantage of new scum mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/644 "2007-12-24T15:35:44Z")
Doh! vote: faithfool ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/645 "2007-12-24T15:46:18Z")
[QUOTE=sachertorte] **zuma** : Why did you organize a random approach to revealing dossiers? Why did you ignore your own random ordering and reveal your dossier early? [/QUOTE] Sorry, **sach** , I couldn’t reply at night. I organized a random approach to revealing dossiers because it was part of my sinister plan I ignored my random ordering because it was what was to be the culmination of my plan. You see, I am scum. Along with my scumbuddies **Rysto** and **MHaye** , I devised an overly-complicated and truly evil plot the likes of which we’ve never seen before! It wasn’t truly random, you see. Between us we were able to manufacture scores in NBA games. Oh you’ve caught us now, I might as well reveal all. Now, it was important that **Rysto** and **Mhaye** were the first two on the list. Once **Rysto** and **Mhaye** delayed their dossier revelations, I jumped in at just the right time and revealed mine. **Diomedes** was instrumental in this nefarious plot too. In retrospect it is SO obvious why I revealed early after two days of non-reveals. Revealing my dossier when I did of course leads us scum to a certain victory. I’ll leave you to explain it since you caught us. I tried to hide my foul motives behind what would be seen as simple, direct, and obvious reasons for doing so. [338](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9279923&postcount=338) [393](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9282266&postcount=393) Unfortunately, this vast conspiricy has been outed. What seems like simple logical arguments seemingly ignored by **sach** have now been exposed as the evil machinations that they are. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/646 "2007-12-24T15:59:04Z")
On a more serious note, **ComeToTheDarksideWeHaveCookies** , it appears that if the scum send the same killer on multiple nights, it will be something the killed player will recognize: > [@mtgman](#): > > Then if the scum send Scum 1 out to kill again on Night 2 the new victim will recognize the first trait(due to that whole “being in their head as they died” thing) and notice something new about the killer. So they would be able to put two factoids in their death scene In your death scene, please make it clear whether or not you were killed by the same scum who offed **Santo Rugger**. I guess in your death scene, if it were the same killer, there should be something in there about driving into 7-11. If that’s not there, we can assume they chose a new killer. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/647 "2007-12-24T16:03:29Z")
Also I too will withold my vote, and most of my analysis, until **ComeToTheDarksideWeHaveCookies** reveals her new knowledge. Plus it’s XMAS. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/648 "2007-12-24T20:00:53Z")
Just FYI for those of you waiting on Cookies. She is going to have until Thursday at noon to get her sceen in because we weren’t able to get her her info until today. (Unfortunatly the holidays have slowed us down too.) She has tomorrow as a pass (as do we all) so she gets 72 hours total from the time we sent the PM to get her scene in. Just so you all know how long you will potentially be waiting. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/649 "2007-12-24T22:13:55Z")
This may be the last vote count you get until late in the day on Wednesday. I don’t work between tomorrow and January 2nd, so I might be preoccupied. 1 - brewha (shadowFacts) 1 - faithfool (Dio) 2 out of 16 votes cast. With 16 alive it takes 9 to start the clock and just 10 to end the Day instantly. Go Team! ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/650 "2007-12-25T16:11:11Z")
Merry Christmas, everyone! (even scum, although I bet you’re getting some coal, suckas!) ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2007, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/651 "2007-12-25T16:22:05Z")
[QUOTE=ShadowFacts] Merry Christmas, everyone! (even scum, although I bet you’re getting some coal, suckas!) [/QUOTE] Seconded. Thanks for giving me a year of mafia fun. And I promise not to give snarky replies to unfair accusations for at least a few days in the spirit of the season 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2007, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/652 "2007-12-25T17:33:14Z")
Merry Christmas! Our requisitioned stockings are in their places. And it looks like I got a sprocket! or is it a widget? ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/653 "2007-12-26T03:09:41Z")
I suppose this makes me the Ghost of Christmas Present. I rattle my chains at you, Silent Swine! I have received my info and will be composing and submitting my death scene in the morrow. Happy Chrismahanukkwanzolstice, everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/654 "2007-12-26T15:22:32Z")
I’ll do a reread at some point, but for now my suspicions are still with **Hal Briston** and **faithfool**. **Hal** for his strange claim of special knowledge about exactly one person. I think the source of the Dossiers is the secret rather than **Hal** ’s claim. **faith** for his possible slip and his anti-Town self-voting behavior. Townies never have a reason to vote for themselves. Scum sometimes do. Also, who didn’t vote? **Rysto** and **faithfool**. I want to see explanations from both of them about why they failed to vote. We need everyone voting, it’s one of our best sources of information. Which is an excellent reason for Scum to avoid voting. And now that’s three marks against **faith**. I like to give newbies the benefit of a doubt on Day One, but we’re past that. Time to pay the piper: **vote faithfool** Looking forward to the info that Cookies managed to learn about her killer, but we need to start discussion before then. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/655 "2007-12-26T17:01:47Z")
Just to catch up on a couple of issues… First, sorry to see you go Cookies. ☹ With such an excellent name as that, I can just imagine how much fun you are to read fairy tales with and drink hot chocolate. Hope the after life is good to ya. Second, I hope everyone had a wonderful holiday. Mine wasn’t so great, but I did get to visit the cemetery to see my brother. I still miss him so. Third, for all the questions. [QUOTE=Diomedes] I still don’t like **faithfool**. [/QUOTE] Eh, you ain’t too friendly yourself. > [@](#): > > Her initial statement, despite mtgman’s ditch for her, still seems off for me. Secondary confirmation stinks to high heaven (who needs to take time to respond to a PM? Signing up for an offboard site, on the other hand…). Well, for me it does take some time. I have lots of other mental crud going on that routinely draws my muddled attention. Now that’s not y’all’s problem, but it is the truth and, seeing how this was before the game started (which I now know doesn’t matter), I thought I had a bit more time to take care of tying up loose ends. I’ve explained this ad nauseum and I suppose I’ll no longer worry about those who disbelieve me from now own. \< shrug \> > [@](#): > > And her whole “vote for me… I don’t wanna play, 'cuz I might hurt my side… oh, wait, I’ll play with you guys” deal also raises my ire… The former had to do with me feeling over my head right off the bat (is there an echo or have I said this before?) and understanding that with all the suspicion hanging over my head due to how I freakin’ write, I simply assumed that it would be in the best interest of the Town to get rid of me as soon as possible because it was going to happen anyway. And I felt that if I were out of the game earlier, someone much more experienced would be of more help. For the latter, I had been advised to hang in there regardless and it seemed like only the right thing to do to try my best. Gosh, I had no idea that would raise anyone’s ire. [QUOTE=Pleonast] **faith** for his possible slip and his anti-Town self-voting behavior. Townies never have a reason to vote for themselves. Scum sometimes do. [/QUOTE] Sometimes _I_ (obviously) vote for myself too, for the reasons expressed above. Again, as I had very little prior knowledge about Mafia, I didn’t know that my doing so was some sort of admission to scumness. > [@](#): > > Also, who didn’t vote? **Rysto** and **faithfool**. I want to see explanations from both of them about why they failed to vote. We need everyone voting, it’s one of our best sources of information. Which is an excellent reason for Scum to avoid voting. Well considering that I [actually, _did_ vote](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9292544&postcount=556), is that explanation enough? I think that sums everything thus far up nicely, except for this… **vote Diomedes** because I think s/he puts an awful lot of focus on me and I’m not sure to what end. Perhaps s/he is trying to draw attention away from themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/656 "2007-12-26T18:21:59Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] Also, who didn’t vote? **Rysto** and **faithfool**. I want to see explanations from both of them about why they failed to vote. We need everyone voting, it’s one of our best sources of information. Which is an excellent reason for Scum to avoid voting. [/QUOTE] I didn’t vote because I had my two worst exams on the 17th and 19th, travelled on the 20th and was rushing around doing Christmas shopping on the 21st. By the time I had caught up, it was about an hour before the deadline, **MHaye** was going to hang no matter what I said or did, I had no clue who I felt suspicious of and then I ended up getting drafted to help clean up the house. I did warn you all that I was going to be busy for most of Day One. I’m sorry that I was busy on the 20th and 21st when I expected to be mostly free(I did not count on having to do my Christmas shopping here but that big snowstorm the weekend before scuppered my original plans). It won’t happen again. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/657 "2007-12-26T18:32:33Z")
[QUOTE=faithfool] Well considering that I [actually, _did_ vote](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9292544&postcount=556), is that explanation enough? [/QUOTE] Yes, that is good enough. **FOS on the moderators for missing votes.** But, **faith** , in the future, it’s better to point out of your vote is missing from the vote counts (and you were missing from the last two). That vote-count error substantially reduces my suspicion of **faithfool**. However, he is still at the top of my suspicion list, so I won’t withdraw my vote, yet. On preview: ok, that’s reasonable, **Rysto**. Darn it, now I really need to reread everything since my current suspicions are evaporating… ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/658 "2007-12-26T18:47:37Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] Yes, that is good enough. **FOS on the moderators for missing votes.** But, **faith** , in the future, it’s better to point out of your vote is missing from the vote counts (and you were missing from the last two). That vote-count error substantially reduces my suspicion of **faithfool**. However, he is still at the top of my suspicion list, so I won’t withdraw my vote, yet… [/QUOTE] Ya know, for as much discussion as there is about me, no one must be paying the least bit of [attention](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9294601&postcount=577) to my posts. So, for the Cliff Notes version: I couldn’t have known about my vote being missing and commenting on it until today, because I was out of town (like I mentioned) and wouldn’t return until the 26th. That was why I went ahead and cast my vote. Shortly upon arrival home, I came straight here to catch up and reply to whatever I’d missed. Does anyone now understand just how frustrating this could be for a newbie? I hope those that’ve gone before me have had a easier time of it. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/659 "2007-12-26T19:49:04Z")
[QUOTE=faithfool] Eh, you ain’t too friendly yourself. [/quote] No, I’m a right bastard. It’s all part of my charm. But I don’t go around killing people at night, now do I? > [@](#): > > Well, for me it does take some time. I have lots of other mental crud going on that routinely draws my muddled attention. Now that’s not y’all’s problem, but it is the truth and, seeing how this was before the game started (which I now know doesn’t matter), I thought I had a bit more time to take care of tying up loose ends. I’ve explained this ad nauseum and I suppose I’ll no longer worry about those who disbelieve me from now own. \< shrug \> That’s not much of a response to what I still feel is highly questionable. You screwed up, you’ll learn from it in the nextgame, but in this game, you sent out a flare saying “scum here”! > [@](#): > > The former had to do with me feeling over my head right off the bat (is there an echo or have I said this before?) and understanding that with all the suspicion hanging over my head due to how I freakin’ write, I simply assumed that it would be in the best interest of the Town to get rid of me as soon as possible because it was going to happen anyway. And I felt that if I were out of the game earlier, someone much more experienced would be of more help. For the latter, I had been advised to hang in there regardless and it seemed like only the right thing to do to try my best. Gosh, I had no idea that would raise anyone’s ire. There’s no ire, here… but I can’t see how you sticking around possibly could hurt the Town, if you were Town. A new and concerned scum, however, might be afraid she’s going to give away {more) information that she shouldn’t. > [@](#): > > vote: Diomedes Oh, my God! Diomedes sucks! If I was trying to draw attention away from myself, I’d do so by laying low. Weak effort, and bad form. Oh, by the way, I’m a man. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/660 "2007-12-26T19:54:28Z")
Yeah, the wobbly vote counts made things a bit tough…though it is hard wading through all these posts, I’m aware. Let’s all try to keep track of whom we vote for and make sure that the game mods have counted our votes, just to make sure this time round. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=34)