# You-Solve-It Mafia Game

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 11, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636 "2007-12-11T18:21:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 44

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/861 "2008-01-07T16:57:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop]  
**NAF, your vote count seems off. I have one vote on me, but it is Brewha not Dio. Dio voted for Faithfool.**  
[/QUOTE]

:sigh: You are right. Clearly I am on crack. :smack:

Current Vote Count:

7 - brewha (sach, HockeyMonkey, Hawkeyeop, Freudian Slit, Rysto, Hal Briston, Pleo)

2 - Diomedes (faithfool, kat)  
2 - faithfool (zuma, brewha)

1 - Hawkeyeop (brewha)  
One more vote for brewha and we will have a lynch. Day ends on the half hour. So 33 minutes to go.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/862 "2008-01-07T16:57:59Z")

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[QUOTE=storyteller0910]  
This pretty clearly does not rule out power roles. It rules out cops, vigs, SKs, bombs, role blockers, masons, recruiters, or third factions. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that this choice of wording suggests that there _is_ a power role. Why list them all like that, instead of just saying “no power roles?” Only if you were trying to hedge.  
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It’s silly to think that **NAF** meant _only_ those roles are excluded. I read the statement as meaning “no power roles or other funky stuff. really.” They advertised this game as a basic vanilla game.

To accept that some player could have special knowledge just goes against the premise of this game. I don’t buy it. I’m not willing to give a player a free pass because of a claim whose validity that depends on a legalistic interpretation that goes against the spirit of the game. That’s my opinion, you’re welcome to disagree. But if **Hal** is scum, you’re handing the game to him.

> [@](#):
>
> I am saying that your approach is indistinguishable from that of scum.

What does that mean? Scum will do _anything_, and a skilled Scum player will sound indistinguishable from the rest of us.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/863 "2008-01-07T16:59:29Z")

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
:sigh: You are right. Clearly I am on crack. :smack:

Current Vote Count:

7 - brewha (sach, HockeyMonkey, Hawkeyeop, Freudian Slit, Rysto, Hal Briston, Pleo)

2 - Diomedes (faithfool, kat)  
2 - faithfool (zuma, brewha)

1 - Hawkeyeop (brewha)  
One more vote for brewha and we will have a lynch. Day ends on the half hour. So 33 minutes to go.  
[/QUOTE]  
**Brewha** voted twice! Scum tell!

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/864 "2008-01-07T17:01:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Pleonast]  
**Brewha** voted twice! Scum tell!  
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Nah. It’s the secret role.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/865 "2008-01-07T17:13:08Z")

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dammit! That vote on faithfool is Dio not brewha. :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: ☹

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/866 "2008-01-07T17:15:50Z")

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Hey **NAF** , not to point mistakes or anything, but I never voted for **Faithfool**

Townies that are voting for me, reconsider your vote. Ask yourself why you are voting for me. Is it because **Hawkeye** has been putting words in my mouth? Is it becuase I’ve been vocal with the intention to just get conversation going? Do you have any reason that _you_ believe that I’m guilty? If you are just reading what others are saying about me and not forming your own opinions, you are playing right into scummy hands.

If I do take a swan dive into the abyss tonight, take a close look at whose been dogging me.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/867 "2008-01-07T17:34:15Z")

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[QUOTE=brewha]  
Hey **NAF** , not to point mistakes or anything, but I never voted for **Faithfool**  
[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I know. I am not sure why I did that.

> [@brewha](#):
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> If I do take a swan dive into the abyss tonight, take a close look at whose been dogging me.

Well you don’t have to worry about that. Voting has ended ladies and gents and brewha only had 7 out of the required 8 votes for a lynch. ToDay no one dies.

ToNight is a different story.

Scum have 48 hours from this post to make a Night action decision (Wednesday at 9:30 am pacific) Get to work!

(I promise to be less frazzled for the rest of the game.)

Go Team!

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/868 "2008-01-07T22:22:52Z")

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Booooooored. Let’s have a water cooler race down the side of the mountain. The monks won’t get mad. It’s in the interest of team building

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/869 "2008-01-07T22:47:59Z")

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Yeah right. You just want to lure me to the edge of the cliff! I’ll be hiding in my room now that I know that 7 of you want me dead! :mad:

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/870 "2008-01-07T22:52:02Z")

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Aw, crudnasty. I was away for the weekend, and thought I’d get back before Day’s end. I suppose I’ll use this time to go back and read over what I assume were some amazing insight on why we should have lynched **brewha.**

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/871 "2008-01-07T23:04:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Kat]  
Vote Diomedes based on his dogging **faithfool** , especially since he’s re-voting her toDay without any new reasons. Wouldn’t she have made other slips by now if she was that bad at keeping it secret?  
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(I apologize for double posting here… I may end up quadruple posting, just because I’m going to respond to things one at a time as I catch up with today, and I plan on saving story’s continued attacck on me for last)

**faithfool** made a major slip to start the game off. She hasn’t done much of anything other than act aggrieved by me voting for her (a perfectly neutral reaction, especially for a new player), so there isn’t much more for me to go on. I’m confident enough in her slip being a scumtell that I don’t need any more. While I’m starting to see some of the case made against brewha, it seems a much shakier indictment of scumdom than faithfool’s near outright admission of guilt on Day One.

Yeah, I’m like a dog with a bone sometimes. But this one is just too tasty to pass up.

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/872 "2008-01-07T23:06:23Z")

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Crap. I forgot it’s nighttime. Sorry, mods. I’ll save the rest of my thoughts for the Day.

Anybody up for breaking into the monastary’s medicinal brandy stores? Then we an bust out some paperclips and make fun chain-art!

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/873 "2008-01-08T14:26:06Z")

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[Www.topdoghotdogs.com](http://Www.topdoghotdogs.com)

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/874 "2008-01-08T14:47:20Z")

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[www.topdoghotdog.com](http://www.topdoghotdog.com) thd secret is revealed.

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**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/875 "2008-01-08T20:27:04Z")

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Bumping from the Peanut Gallery again (because it’s also Night in [the off-board Mafia game](http://psychopathgame.proboards106.com/)

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/876 "2008-01-08T22:20:16Z")

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I love you, **dot** … who would keep us afloat without you?

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/877 "2008-01-08T23:47:59Z")

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**I am the Seer.**

[Top Dog of Berkeley, CA](http://www.topdoghotdogs.com/) is the One True Top Dog.

[Top Dog Hot Dog of Los Angeles](http://www.topdoghotdog.com/) has a redundant, stupid, and redundant name, and clearly the choice of furry menaces.

**zuma is a werewolf!**

Whadda ya mean that game’s over? I’m still livin’ it, man! Over and over, over and over, over and over…

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/878 "2008-01-09T00:47:39Z")

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I _so_ want a hot dog now.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/879 "2008-01-09T00:54:25Z")

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[QUOTE=sturmhauke]  
**I am the Seer.**

[Top Dog of Berkeley, CA](http://www.topdoghotdogs.com/) is the One True Top Dog.

[Top Dog Hot Dog of Los Angeles](http://www.topdoghotdog.com/) has a redundant, stupid, and redundant name, and clearly the choice of furry menaces.

[/QUOTE]

You know, I live in LA. Grew up in LA. I love LA.\* But sometime…sometimes something comes along that just makes me ashamed.

My home town has besmirched the name of Top Dog and my world just became that much sadder a place. ☹  
\*(I secretly prefer LA to San Francisco, but don’t tell anyone, it isn’t cool to think that way)

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/880 "2008-01-09T02:21:13Z")

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Damnit…this is _not_ a good turn of the conversation for someone with a _Mickey Mouse Clubhouse_-obsessed two-year-old.

_Hot dog, hot dog, hot diggity dog!  
now we got ears, it’s time for cheers  
Hot dog, hot dog, hot diggity dog!_

Repeat in your brain for the next 17 hours.

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