# You-Solve-It Mafia Game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 11, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636 "2007-12-11T18:21:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1081 "2008-01-16T16:25:23Z")
I am still playing. I don’t have a good excuse for not participating more. I just don’t have a good read on anybody and I feel like I’ve been chasing my tail the whole game. We have less an hour until the deadline, correct? **storyteller** ’s case seems the strongest and **Freudian Slit** is the leading candidate. **[colour=blue]Vote Freudian Slit[/color]** I believe that means that **Freudian Slit** is one vote from the require majority. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1082 "2008-01-16T16:28:01Z")
That’s the second time I’ve done that this game: **Vote Freudian Slit** ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1083 "2008-01-16T16:33:12Z")
unvote brewha vote Freudian Slit ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1084 "2008-01-16T16:45:42Z")
Since I changed my vote in accordance to what seemed to be necessary, I’ll do it again and I won’t even have to voice my opinion about it, seeing as I’m already on record once. ☹ **Unvote brewha** **Vote Freudian Slit** ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1085 "2008-01-16T16:54:17Z")
You guys don’t need me to change my vote right now, so I’ll keep mine where it is. I find it quite interesting that \*\*brewha \*\* has managed to escape the noose two Days in a row. If the rest of you guys don’t find that to be compelling I don’t know what more I can do. I think the **Freudian Slit** wagon built a head of steam way too fast, but if any funny business happens at the end of the day I’ll make sure I do what I can to make the lynch happen. (Unless you all want to switch back to **brewha**.) ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1086 "2008-01-16T17:05:36Z")
8 - Freudian Slit (story, sach, brewha , zuma, dio, faithfool, rysto, hawk) 2 - brewha (HM, Freudian) 2 - Diomedes (HNC, Hal) 1 - faithfool (pleo) Everyone has voted and Freudian Slit has a majority of votes. If there were 12 hours left in the game the countdown clock would have started. As it is, it will take one more vote to end the Day instantly or 2 unvotes to stop a lynch. If neither of those things happen, the Day will end in 2 hours. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1087 "2008-01-16T17:15:36Z")
[QUOTE=brewha] **Pleonast** , you’re going to have to show your work. You say: 10% of what? How are you getting that number? I just don’t buy your math. Either the scum decided that they would or would not vote together. That looks alot like 50/50 odds to me. If there are 4 scum, 3 town had voted for me. I’m not sure what order it happened, but I’d guess that once two or three town voted against me, the scum all jumped on board and hoped a 4th and 5th townie would cast their vote and lynch me. [/quote] I thought I was showing too much work, so didn’t go into more detail. I explicitly laid out all the cases I could think of, including how the Scum would be distributed among the voting groups, and then estimated the likelihood that each case is correct. I think it’s unlikely that _all_ the Scum (assuming you are not) ended up voting for you. That seems a very risky move. You’ll notice, however, that I give a total 50% chance of 3 or more Scum voting for you (cases 1,2,3). > [@](#): > > Like **Hockey Monkey** said, there’s not much strategic advantage to letting me live. The only scenario that makes sense that I’m alive is that all the scum had voted for me. Unless the scum just missed a deadline or weren’t paying attention. It which case, they aren’t very good at this and we should be doing much better than we are. > > I couldn’t be more opposed. Either kill me today or call me town and focus on someone else. This is two days in a row that too much time has been analyzing me to no positive outcome. So you are suggesting we do that again tomorrow? That would be the most pro scum thing we could do. > > If the majority opinion is that analyzing me again tomorrow or the next day is a good idea - just chuck me off the cliff now - because there is no way we can win if we keep wasting time like this. Wow, you attack me for trying to get others out of the blinders of focusing only on you. I was beginning to lean towards thinking you were one of us. But this whole “lynch me or trust me, NOW” simply reeks of Scum trying to force a false dichotomy. (Similar to what **Hal** ’s been trying to do, too.) And then this sudden rush onto **Freud**? **story** made a reasonable case and now there’s a headlong rush to lynch? Looks like a lot of me-too votes, perfect for scum jump on. Count me as highly skeptical of that bandwagon. Based on **brewha** ’s reaction to my post and speed with which the **Freud** votes built up: **unvote faithfool** **vote brewha** ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1088 "2008-01-16T18:11:13Z")
Actually you only have 50 minutes now. It took me 10 minutes to get this posted. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1089 "2008-01-16T18:14:41Z")
Okay, um, wow…I wasn’t expecting this? Not sure i’ll have time to debunk the case against me, but… [QUOTE=storyteller0910] Jeez, that ended up being longer than I’d anticipated. That was the long version; here’s the synopsis: **The Case Against Freudian Slit, with Bullet Points** [list] [li]She has shown a consistent pattern of throwing opinions, ideas, suspicions, and even votes out for consideration - but hedging them and backing away from them to an extreme degree, usually in the same post. She consistently seeks to avoid responsibility for her own votes, casting votes to lynch **mhaye** and **brewha** while protesting her own uncertainty and citing the need to achieve majority as her primary justification. The only strong and unqualified opinion she’s had has been:[/li][/quote] Well, I really don’t think that being unsure=scum, but, um, okay… [quote] [li]Her utterly groundless expression of trust for **Diomedes** “as town.”[/li][/quote] He hasn’t given me any evidence that he’s scum… [quote] [li]Also concerning has been her constant and insistent effort to get people to focus on **faithfool** and **brewha** as the primary (even _only_ reasonable lynching candidates), even going so far as to ask if we were all just going to lynch **brewha** before the current Day had even really begun. The fact that her myopia just so happens to concern two of the more popular targets over the past several Days appears to me to be further evidence of her effort to protect herself with a nice cozy cocoon of waffling and majority opinion. [/li][/quote] **faithfool** seems suspicious to me, as she does to others–her even asking us to lynch her seems proof of it. [quote] [li]Finally, she used exactly the same phrase - “psyching [each other] out” - to describe her own perception of how the game should feel as she previously used to describe her own behavior \*as scu[/li][/QUOTE] This just seems so entirely baseless to me. Using the same, innocuous word equals town? Give me a break. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1090 "2008-01-16T18:40:45Z")
[QUOTE=Freudian Slit] … **faithfool** seems suspicious to me, as she does to others–her even asking us to lynch her seems proof of it… [/QUOTE] For what it’s worth, I’ll try explaining this again, I think. [ul] [li]Right off the bat, the game was coming across plenty different than I expected. To put ridiculously, before (and right after) the start and how it was handled, I got my feelings hurt. But I tried to play along correctly, to this best of my ability, apparently all to no avail with regards to how others saw my ‘slips’. I understand now that doesn’t really matter, but I’m explaining why I thought / felt / decided the way I did.[/li][li]Since said feelings were hurt and I didn’t foresee how the game was progressing as it was, I added bewilderment on to that. Like I said, I’d been looking only at the mechanics of the other games I’d read (not what I thought was just chatter) and apparently misunderstood. I was thrown off right off the bat by what happened prior to and it only got worse with all the seeming paranoia, statistics and the impetus somewhat implied to go ahead with a lynch no matter the evidence. Not to mention, I’ve been dogged (so to speak) by a lot of things, one of which is not having opinions based on fact when I didn’t see the same things in many others who were basically ignored and thus the same logic not applied. \< shrug \>[/li][li]It’s been gently pointed out to me (that I appreciate) that I shouldn’t be in relentless pursuit of just one person. By others, that’s been viewed as suspicious. Unfortunately, I wish more folks would think the latter about a certain party and his single minded focus on me and what that may mean. I wonder if that has any basis in anything?[/li][li]Finally, all that leads to this… Although some of those things came pre and post my initial vote for myself, the reasoning has remained the same. Total honesty here, but this game is stressing me out and I just wanted to be dead as soon as possible to get it over with and allow you guys to have someone who could help you better in all capacities. [/li] Nothing much has changed about its tone in the interim (I don’t seem to be the only one to notice things not going swimmingly) and even then, I assumed it would be much better to get rid of me, in addition to the above, because I’m lost, clueless and obviously going to be snuffed sooner or later (in my humble estimation) regardless of what I do. So that’s WHY I did it and nothing more. [/ul] Everyone is more than welcome to file this explanation under the fact that it’s just like someone else behaved last game (and they proved to be scum), M for Martyr, N for Not Your Problem (which I completely agree, hence I’ve tried to make the best of it no matter what) or D for Don’t Give a Crap, (maybe P for Protesteth Too Much would be more applicable) because I’m likely one of the bad guys anyway. Y’all’s choice. But like I said previously, I’m putting all this out there for one last time in hopes that it’ll do any good. Sadly, I’m not very optimistic. faithfool~ [totally guilty of terrible sentence structure and poor, poor choices of words, obviously and unbelievably long posts – sorry] ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1091 "2008-01-16T18:46:50Z")
[QUOTE=faithfool] unbelievably long posts – sorry] [/QUOTE] Umm have you seen Storyteller’s posts? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1092 "2008-01-16T18:51:34Z")
If you have anything else to say, say it now. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1093 "2008-01-16T18:55:57Z")
Twice now the scum have managed to save you **brewha**! I’ll be on your case again tomorrow if you guys don’t kill me tonight. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1094 "2008-01-16T19:02:42Z")
[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop] Umm have you seen Storyteller’s posts? [/QUOTE] 😃 Sorry. I am what I am, as a great philosopher and vegetarian once said. Incidentally, **HM** - what happened to the case you promised against me? ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1095 "2008-01-16T19:05:57Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910] 😃 Sorry. I am what I am, as a great philosopher and vegetarian once said. Incidentally, **HM** - what happened to the case you promised against me? [/QUOTE] Could ask you the same thing on the one that you promised on me. I got busy at work yesterday and didn’t get more than the compiliation done. Haven’t forgotten about you though. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1096 "2008-01-16T19:10:19Z")
[QUOTE=Hockey Monkey] Could ask you the same thing on the one that you promised on me. [/QUOTE] It’s after deadline now. More toMorrow, if’n we’re both alive to see it. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1097 "2008-01-16T19:27:01Z")
bah, I just wrote a whole death scene. And then the dope ate it. Give me a few more minutes to re write. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1098 "2008-01-16T19:31:55Z")
come on! the suspense is killing me! ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1099 "2008-01-16T19:34:24Z")
This death scene is going to be quick because I can’t spend another half hour writing. But trust me the last one was awsome. It had everything blood, guts, prophetic last words, a double twist fake out. I was way proud of it. I hope that the hamsters thought it was tastey. Freudian Slit - disgruntled associate is dead. Nice work team. This night will last 48 hours and will end no later then 11:30 am pacific time on January 18, 2008. (That’s Thursday) Fruidian, if you want to write up a death scene, you need to get it to us by the start of the next Day. It was a rocky Day, but in the end you all pulled together as a team and made the right decision. Good work people. Go Team! ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1100 "2008-01-16T19:37:07Z")
[QUOTE=NAF1138] This death scene is going to be quick because I can’t spend another half hour writing. But trust me the last one was awsome. It had everything blood, guts, prophetic last words, a double twist fake out. I was way proud of it. I hope that the hamsters thought it was tastey. Freudian Slit - disgruntled associate is dead. Nice work team. [/quote] I did this joke in another game, but I want to do it again: [Chandler Bing] I KNEW it! [/Chandler Bing] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=54) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=56)