# You-Solve-It Mafia Game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 11, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636 "2007-12-11T18:21:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 59
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1161 "2008-01-22T03:25:18Z")
[QUOTE=Rysto] I think that our killer lied about his/her dossier. I’m going through the 2 threads to see if there’s anything about The Princess Bride in either. So far, not so good. [/QUOTE] The battle of wits in _The Princess Bride_ was between what’s his face, Westley, and the other guy, over the poisoned wine - wasn’t it? Or maybe there was more than one battle of wits. It’s been so long since I’ve read that book. Okay, I just googled “princess bride battle of wits” and the hits on the front page are the dialogue between “Man in Black” and “Vizzini.” Vizzini is the one that lost. He is the killer’s predecessor … ? 😕 :: goes back to review dossiers :: ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1162 "2008-01-22T03:27:24Z")
Holy crap. :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: Vizzini is the _Scilian_. _My great-great-grandfather was a duke in Sicily._ ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1163 "2008-01-22T03:29:09Z")
Er, and upon further reflection, the only ones that have that trait are **zuma** and me. This is of course assuming that everyone revealed their dossiers truthfully. Sorry for posting multiple times - I got a bit carried away. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1164 "2008-01-22T03:54:11Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] Holy crap. :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: Vizzini is the _Scilian_. _My great-great-grandfather was a duke in Sicily._ [/QUOTE] Fuck. I’ve just wasted a goddamned half hour. **Hazel** ’s nailed it. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1165 "2008-01-22T14:50:48Z")
oh noes. I has Sicilian royalty. I feel your pain, HM and sach. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1166 "2008-01-22T14:54:51Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] Holy crap. :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: :smack: Vizzini is the _Scilian_. _My great-great-grandfather was a duke in Sicily._ [/QUOTE] Bingo! My synapses couldn’t parse the trait from the death scene, but of course now, it makes perfect sense. Oh and **storyteller** …I love reading your stuff dude. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1167 "2008-01-22T15:06:14Z")
I think it also worth noting that Storyteller did not hear any previously revealed traits. So either Freudian Slit was the previous killer, or the scum was worried that the odds of the dossier revealing the previous killer was too great. I also think that we should revisit Story’s idea of having votes in prior to deadline. I would suggest a few modifications. 1. Everyone get there vote in 24 hours prior to the end of day. 2. Each individual who did not pick one of the top 2 vote getters, should choose between those two. 3. Once an individual reaches majority, someone else should switch there vote to lynch that person. That way there can not be a last minute vote change causing a no lynch. Obviously common sense applies, so if we have ties someone will need to switch over to ensure a lynch. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1168 "2008-01-22T15:30:45Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] You know who else intersects both of your lists, **Pleo**? You. I find your reasoning rather arbitrary. Why do you think scum _wouldn’t_ jump on the **Freudian** bandwagon? Her lynch, from what I can tell, became inevitable fairly quickly. Don’t you think scum would more than willingly vote for their own if it became clear she was going to be lynched anyway? I would also like to point out that when I last signed on yesterDay, **brewha** and not **Freudian Slit** was on the chopping block. The votes swung during the half-day I couldn’t log on. I didn’t vote for **brewha** because I didn’t feel he was scum. I voted for **Dio**. I’ll go back and find the reasons I posted when I get the chance. [/QUOTE] Read my lists again: > [@Pleonast](#): > > So let’s say the scum were split on the brewha vote. That means one of sach, HockeyMonkey, Hawkeyeop, Rysto, Hal Briston, Pleo are scum. And two of faithfool, zuma, Dio, Hazel. (Removing brewha, since this is all premised on him being Town.) > > And I think scum were more likely to not vote for Freud. These are HockeyMonkey, Hazel, Hal, Pleo. The intersection of my two short lists is Hazel. Orange added for emphasis. Everyone except **brewha** is on one of the first two lists. But the _short_ lists have players more likely to be scum. And their intersection is you. The **Freud** lynch came out of nowhere. If he’d turned out to be Town, I would’ve been very suspicious of everyone on it. But he was Scum. There’s three of them left, and I don’t see why two of them would have voted for **Freud**. It seems much more likely to me that no more than one Scum voted for him. That leaves two scum on the list of HockeyMonkey, Hazel, Hal, and Pleo. I know I’m not Scum, so I see good odds on the other three. You being on the other short list makes you an easy pick. I now with the clue from **storyteller** , I’m happy with my vote. I wouldn’t mind changing my vote to **zuma** , but I’d like to have more of a case than the killer’s trait. I’m in favor of using **story** ’s voting plan. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1169 "2008-01-22T16:32:05Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] **(Hint: it’s traditionally a mod’s job to post final vote counts.)** [/QUOTE] Fine by me since you asked for it. I don’t traditionally post final vote counts, FWIW. The reason being that I generaly consider keeping track of those sorts of things to be part of the game. You may notice that I am a bit more hands off then the typical mod on these boards, and have been even more hands off in this game than I usually am. That is because I am trying to allow both sides all the tools they have available to them without mod interferance. I know that my game plans have been thwarted on more then one occasion by a “helpful” mod, so I am trying to avoid that. But if y’all want me to post final vote counts, it’s no skin off my nose. Frankly it’s easier then posting the running vote tally since the information is static, and I have it all collected already. Give me an hour or so to get caught up from the long weekend at work and I will post the final counts for all Days up until this point AS I HAVE THEM. If you know you voted and don’t see it there, it is because that vote wasn’t counted for some reason. Remember, all vote counts posted my mods are accurate. We are willing to correct fluid vote counts but no corrections will be made to the static final vote count. If you see an error in the count it is on you to post proof that I screwed up (and I know I did at least once.) ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1170 "2008-01-22T18:45:50Z")
Day 1 1- Diomedes (Storyteller) 10- MHaye (OAOW, zuma, brewha, Dio, Hawkeyeop, Kat, Cookies, Pleonast, HockeyMonkey, Freudian Slit) 3- zuma (sach, Mhaye, Hal Briston) Day 2 1- Diomedes (rysto) 8- One And Only Wanderers (Hal Briston, Hawkeyop, sach, shadowfacts, Freudian Slit, Kat, HockeyMonkey, Dio, faithfool, OAOW) Day 3 7 - brewha (sach, HockeyMonkey, Hawkeyeop, Freudian Slit, Rysto, Hal Briston, Pleo) 2 - Diomedes (faithfool, kat) 2 - faithfool (zuma, Dio) 1 - Hawkeyeop (brewha) (faithfool had voted for brewha also, but I didn’t see it so it didn’t count. Sorry folks.) Day 4 8 - Freudian Slit (story, sach, brewha , zuma, dio, faithfool, rysto, hawk) 3 - brewha (HM, Freudian, Pleo) 2 - Diomedes (HNC, Hal) And that’s the show recap for the day. The one count mistake I know made I placed as a note under the count for the day. Yes, brewha is lucky to be alive. Now that I have posted this, get crackin. Today is Tuesday, you only have until Friday at 11:30am pacific time to get a lynch together. Remember it is 6 to lynch, 7 to end the Day instantly. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1171 "2008-01-22T18:50:40Z")
I am in a counting mood: 1 - HNC (Pleo) and that’s all she wrote. Go Team! ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1172 "2008-01-22T19:44:29Z")
Here’s a color-coded list: Town, Scum. **Day 1** 1- Diomedes (Storyteller) 10- MHaye (OAOW, zuma, brewha, Dio, Hawkeyeop, Kat, Cookies, Pleonast, HockeyMonkey, Freudian Slit) 3- zuma (sach, Mhaye, Hal Briston) 4 - No Vote - faith, Hazel, Rysto, Shadowfacts **Day 2** 1 - Diomedes (rysto) 10 - One And Only Wanderers (Hal Briston, Hawkeyop, sach, shadowfacts, Freudian Slit, Kat, HockeyMonkey, Dio, faithfool, OAOW) 5 - No Vote - brewha, Hazel, zuma, story, Pleonast **Day 3** 7 - brewha (sach, HockeyMonkey, Hawkeyeop, Freudian Slit, Rysto, Hal Briston, Pleo) 2 - Diomedes (faithfool, kat) 2 - faithfool (zuma, Dio) 1 - Hawkeyeop (brewha) 2 - No Vote - Hazel, story (faithfool had voted for brewha also, but I didn’t see it so it didn’t count. Sorry folks.) Day 4 8 - Freudian Slit (story, sach, brewha , zuma, dio, faithfool, rysto, hawk) 3 - brewha (HM, Freudian, Pleo) 2 - Diomedes (HNC, Hal) ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1173 "2008-01-22T20:05:04Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] WTF? I voted the first day for **zuma**. I didn’t vote the second Day because **OAOW** was on the verge of being rush-lynched, which I didn’t agree with; Day 3 was my brain fart when I completely forgot about the entire game. [/quote] According to the NAF official vote count, you did not vote on DAYs 1, 2, or 3. If you voted for zuma, then unvoted you DID NOT VOTE. You can vote and unvote all Day long, but at the end of the Day, if you don’t have a vote on the sheet, then you didn’t do anything. Don’t try to spin it like you did. > [@hazelnutcoffee](#): > > Why, exactly, is my not having voted for **OAOW** and **Freudian Slit** suspcious? **Freudian Slit** ’s lynch became inevitable during the half-day I was unable to be online (and I explained this ahead of time). I did vote that Day and I had my reasons for doing so. It’s suspicious because you are the only person not to have voted for known scum. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1174 "2008-01-22T22:37:22Z")
I DIDN’T UNVOTE! Seriously, if you’re going to accuse me get your facts straight. [I voted for **zuma** on page 13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9296303&postcount=611) just before the Day ended. It was just yesterDay when you snapped at me as well for supposedly not voting when I _had_ voted for **Diomedes**. Who is the one trying to put a “spin” on things? Certainly not me. **NAF** , I DID vote on Day 1 before the Day ended. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1175 "2008-01-22T22:45:35Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] I DIDN’T UNVOTE! Seriously, if you’re going to accuse me get your facts straight. [I voted for **zuma** on page 13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9296303&postcount=611) just before the Day ended. It was just yesterDay when you snapped at me as well for supposedly not voting when I _had_ voted for **Diomedes**. Who is the one trying to put a “spin” on things? Certainly not me. **NAF** , I DID vote on Day 1 before the Day ended. [/QUOTE] OK **Hazel** …don’t get your coffee all in a froth. 😛 I haven’t snapped at anyone, and if it read like I did, please accept my apologies. I was using the offical vote counts, not trying to spin anything. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1176 "2008-01-22T22:50:06Z")
Out of game note: I’ll be on a short business trip Wednesday through Friday. I’ll have internet access and should be able to keep up on reading, but won’t have much time to post. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1177 "2008-01-22T22:59:45Z")
[QUOTE=Hockey Monkey] OK **Hazel** …don’t get your coffee all in a froth. 😛 I haven’t snapped at anyone, and if it read like I did, please accept my apologies. I was using the offical vote counts, not trying to spin anything. [/QUOTE] Sorry. :: sheepish :: I’ve been on my feet all day hammering grammar into the minds of idiots, so you’ll have to excuse my, er, frothiness. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1178 "2008-01-23T04:03:04Z")
[QUOTE=NAF1138] Day 1 1- Diomedes (Storyteller) 10- MHaye (OAOW, zuma, brewha, Dio, Hawkeyeop, Kat, Cookies, Pleonast, HockeyMonkey, Freudian Slit) 3- zuma (sach, Mhaye, Hal Briston) [/QUOTE] [ghost] OOoooooooOOOOOOh…I voted for brewwwwwwwwwwha on Day One - post 547 (and, oddly, you missed it then, too.) OOOooooooooOOOOhhh…go tooooowwwwwnnn… [/ghost] ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1179 "2008-01-23T05:26:46Z")
OK, I started a complete re-read tonight. I also wanted to put together a vote list, because I noticed on at least one occasion **NAF** was not listing votes in the correct order (not sure if it was his intention to or not…). I’ve just finished day 1 and noticed that **NAF** missed a couple votes. BAD NAF. Here is the vote total day 1, in the order they came in: Mhaye (10): OAOW, zuma, brewha, freudian slit, Diomedes, Hawkeyeop, Kat, Cookies, Pleonast, Hockey Monkey zuma (4): sachertorte, Mhaye, Hal Briston, HazelNutCoffee Diomedes (1): storyteller brewha (1): shadowfacts No Vote (2): faithfool, Rysto I’ll try to get the rest of the days in later tonight… ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1180 "2008-01-23T05:44:07Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] OK, I started a complete re-read tonight. I also wanted to put together a vote list, because I noticed on at least one occasion **NAF** was not listing votes in the correct order (not sure if it was his intention to or not…). I’ve just finished day 1 and noticed that **NAF** missed a couple votes. BAD NAF. Here is the vote total day 1, in the order they came in: Mhaye (10): OAOW, zuma, brewha, freudian slit, Diomedes, Hawkeyeop, Kat, Cookies, Pleonast, Hockey Monkey zuma (4): sachertorte, Mhaye, Hal Briston, HazelNutCoffee Diomedes (1): storyteller brewha (1): shadowfacts No Vote (2): faithfool, Rysto I’ll try to get the rest of the days in later tonight… [/QUOTE] I did vote in post [556](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9292544&postcount=556). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=58) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=60)