# You-Solve-It Mafia Game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 11, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636 "2007-12-11T18:21:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 66
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1301 "2008-01-27T21:53:03Z")
As morning breaks on your 6th day in this nightmareish cororate retreat, you hear over the loudspeakers a voice singing unaccompanied. Faintly at first. Then slowly getting louder, and louder until it becomes ear splitting. “BAH BAH BLACKSHEEP HAVE YOU ANY WOOL? YES SIR YES SIR THREE BAGS FULL” Over and over it plays warbling between the keys of A and G# with the occasional giggle between lyrics. Were the silent pigs taunting you again? Were they once more calling you sheep? Had they failed to kill anyone? No…this was a specific taunt. Hal Briston - The Cubicle Evesdropper (and a perfectly happy Associate) is dead. 9 of you are left, so it only takes 5 like minded people to secure a lynch. and 6 to end the Day early. Seven Days from this post is the lynch deadline. Next Sunday at 2pm pacific. Go Team! ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2008, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1302 "2008-01-27T23:49:19Z")
Can we please kill some scum now? vote brewha ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1303 "2008-01-28T06:01:00Z")
NAF’s vote count at 1259 4 - HazelNutCoffee (Pleo, Dio, zuma, HM) 2 - brewha (faithfool, hawkeye) 2 - Diomedes (HNC, Rysto) 1 - faithfool (sach) 1- Hocky Monkey (brewha) 1- Hawkeyeop (Hal) At this point, I think there is a scum up on the leaderboard, with another scum in second. The next person on the list ( **Diomedes** ) has had some suspicion and seems to be a good target. \*\*HazelNutCoffee \*\* started off the votes for **Dio** , then \*\*Rysto \*\* adds: > [@rysto](#): > > What the hell, let’s try to get this bandwagon rolling. > > Vote Dio > > I’m standing by for a last-minute switch when it becomes necessary. \*\*Hawkeyeop \*\* comes next with: > [@hawkeyeop](#): > > unvote Brewha > > vote Diomedes > > Brewha doesn’t seem to be getting much support, so I’ll again switch to the most popular candidate that isn’t Hazel. I think Hazel is town, and I can go either way on Dio. Consider this more a not Hazel vote then anything else. OK, I will. \*\*Sach \*\* is next with: > [@sachertorte](#): > > Crap. > > I spent most of my game time debating between faithfool and brewha yesterday, I’d shift to brewha, but that doesn’t seem like a useful move. Now the town has shifted to a HazelNutCoffee vs. Diomedes face-off. > > I had a bit of suspicion of Diomedes early in the game (minor stuff). I didn’t pursue it further at the time since the whole brewha thing kind of took my focus. HazelNutCoffee isn’t on my radar, which in and of itself is not a good thing. But if I were to vote for someone for under-the-radar reasons, it would be for Rysto. Also, I don’t think the dossier item is a good reason for voting for HazelNutCoffee (as I’ve stated before for myself and for Hockey Monkey, and I’ll include zuma and HNC on that list now too). > > I’ll try and re-read Diomedes and HazelNutCoffee to make a better informed decision, but for now: > vote Diomedes Then dearly departed \*\*Hal \*\* votes for **Dio**. The nail in the coffin: > [@brewha](#): > > I don’t find Dio particularly scummy, but I do think that Hockey Monkey and Pleonast are. I am voting purely based on my assumption that the person they are voting for is not scum. > > Unvote Hockey Monkey > > Vote Diomedes > > I don’t like this vote and I know that if Dio comes up town I will be labeled the scum ‘hammer’. But, at least a lynch will tell us why Dio has voted the way he has - that info is better the the nothing we would gain from a no lynch. We got led around by the nose on this lynch folks. The question is who was doing the leading. It wasn’t **Hal** , and I don’t think it was **Sach**. My top suspicions are **brewha** , **HazelNutCoffee** , and **Rysto**. I’m not really sure about **Hawkeyeop**. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1304 "2008-01-28T12:08:22Z")
First, I’m going to get this off my chest. Because I was furious upon logging in after the day ended and seeing that **Diomedes** had been lynched. There will be little strategizing in this post, mostly venting. But it needs to be said, and hopefully read if we have a chance to win. I don’t think we will win. I’ll be fucking shocked if we win, based on the history of this game. That was the most dysfunctional, ridiculous, and asinine lynch ever, in all my mafia games. It will go down in the hall of fame of town stupidity. First of all, almost nobody gave any reason for the **Diomedes** votes. Second, we all did the ridiculous “wait until the last hour” voting. I’ll include myself in this, somewhat, for waiting until the day before. But we cannot do this again. Third, nobody seems to give a shit about vote history. I remember **Pleonast** and to a lesser extent **Brewha** at least making cases based on the best evidence we have… vote histories. **Diomedes** was a terrible, terrible lynch choice. He was key in getting the **freudian** lynch done. He was out front on day 1 in getting all the dossiers revealed. It was a retarded fucking lynch. And I think we need to take a good, hard look at the voting patterns of the past 2 days. I also think we need to do a better job at justifying our votes. I think everyone that votes need to list reasons. Even if you’ve listed them before. We have to bat .750 from here on out. Yesterday was total and complete bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1305 "2008-01-28T12:25:05Z")
This is not alalysis, I haven’t yet re-read, but I’d like to present a list of facts we have learned. **HNC** , **Rysto** , **Hawkeye** , **Hal** , **sach** , and **brewha** killed a townie yesterday. This doesn’t imply guilt, but is evidence nonetheless. There are six town and three scum left. We only get one more mislynch. **OAOW** , N0 and N1 killer, did not lie about the two traits that killed him (claimed 7-11 and public washington monument) N2 and N3 killer lied about his/her traits. (7-11 and cow udder). **Sach** claimed cow udder, **hm** claimed 7-11. N4 had a new killer with the Sicilian trait. **zuma** and **HNC** claimed Sicilian. **Faithfool** did not lie about her dossier. **Hal** was town and had the ability to recieve at least one dossier. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1306 "2008-01-28T13:10:58Z")
Now for my thoughts on **Hal Briston**. Yesterday I mentioned, in a reply to **Pleonast** , that **Hal** would need to be talked about today. I was very skeptical of **Hal** ’s role-claim from day 1. A few others had voiced that opinion as well. I didn’t really say anything about **Hal** because I thought it was possible that **Hal** lied when he said he only got **faithfool** ’s dossier. I thought it may have been possible that he got to request one per night, but claimed he only got one as to not get night-killed. One reason I believed this was because just recieving one random dossier seems kind of pointless. Another reason was **faithfool** ’s very suspicious post on night 0. If anyone deserved an investigation night 0, it was **faithfool**. However, saying anything about this possibility would have endangered **Hal**. Did anyone else have this thought? I was going to ask **Hal** this question today, as I thought we’re just about out of time with no margin for error. It started to increasingly bother me that he had not been killed yet, as I thought scum would have considered this as well. Now that **Hal** is confirmed town, I want to see if he breadcrumbed anything. All in all, I kind of put him on the back burner, hoping that my mild suspicion was correct. I think this may have been why **Hal** was finally killed. Now, I want to examine **Hal** ’s day 1 revelations. **Hal** , on day 1 (420-440ish), made the following claims: > [@Hal Briston](#): > > Because that’s what the 7% secret was. I was given a copy of faithfool’s dossier at the onset of game, and she was honest about her traits. > [@Hal Briston](#): > > No joke, no whoosh – I wouldn’t exactly call these “super powers”, but I would very much like to have all the cards (or dossiers, as the case may be) on the table before the day is out and I wind up being tossed off a mountain. This is a very quick re-read, and will be examined more in depth tomorrow. **Freudian** was right up to bat asking **Hal** if he had all the dossiers. Hah. **Hal** replied “wouldn’t you like to know”. Now, what we can learn from this is that scum **freudian** was worried about **Hal** having all the dossiers. Only at the end of the day after all dossiers were revealed did **Hal** say he only got **faithfool** ’s and would get no more. So, I believe that scum who revealed prior to **Hal** ’s claim were more likely to lie, and scum who revealed after would be less likely to lie, worried that **Hal** had more dossiers. Players who revealed dossiers prior to **Hal** making his claim (if scum, possibly more likely to lie): Rysto Mhaye zuma brewha Hazel faithfool ( **CONFIRMED TRUTHFUL DOSSIER** ) Diomedes Pleonast Hockeymonkey Players who revealed dossiers after **Hal** claimed (if scum, possibly less likely to lie): Storyteller Cookies OAOW Freudian Slit shadowfacts Hawkeye sachertorte kat Hal This may explain why **OAOW** did not lie about his 7-11 trait. Beyond that, I’ll need to think about it some more. It’s interesting that all the night kills have been from the “less likely to lie” group. We seem to have a lot of potential liars in the first group. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1307 "2008-01-28T13:54:23Z")
Vote Histories **Day 1** Mhaye (10): OAOW, zuma, brewha, freudian slit, Diomedes, Hawkeyeop, Kat, Cookies, Pleonast, Hockey Monkey zuma (4): sachertorte, Mhaye, Hal Briston, HazelNutCoffee Diomedes (1): storyteller Hal(1): faithfool brewha (1): shadowfacts No Vote (1): Rysto **Day 2** Day 2 votes in correct order… I’m not sure there’s much to be gleaned from day 2, for when Cookies revealed the killer’s trait, a OAOW lynch was inevitable. However, I thought I’d list the pre-revelation vote count: brewha (2): shadowfacts, Hockey Monkey faithfool (2): Diomedes, Pleonast Diomedes (1): faithfool Here’s the end of day vote count: OAOW (10): Hal, Hawkeyeop, sachertorte, shadowfacts, freudian slit, Kat, Hockey Monkey, faithfool, Diomedes, OAOW Diomedes (1): Rysto No Vote (5): brewha, Hazel, zuma, story, Pleonast The only things to note were that Pleonast placed the 5th vote on OAOW, then unvoted because he said he didn’t want to end the day early. Diomedes placed the 9th vote (I think we’ve discussed that one), and OAOW self-hammered the 10th vote to end the day instantly. Rysto said he placed his vote on Diomedes because of Diomedes’s 9th vote. **Day 3** Day 3 vote counts: (This was the no-lynch day - Brewha was 1 vote short of majority) brewha (7): sach, Hockey Monkey, Hawkeyeop, fruedian slit, Rysto, Hal, Pleonast faithfool (2): Diomedes, zuma Diomedes (2): faithfool, kat Hawkeyeop(1): Brewha No Vote (2): HazelNutCoffee, storyteller **Day 4** Here was the state of voting before story laid out his case against Fruedian Slit if anyone is interested: brewha (6): Hockey Monkey, freudian slit, hawkeyeop, sachertorte, Diomedes, faithfool faithfool (2): Pleonast, zuma Diomedes (1): HazelNutCoffee Not yet voted: Rysto, storyteller, brewha, Hal And the final vote count in the correct order: Freudian Slit (8): storyteller, brewha, zuma, Diomedes, sachertorte, rysto, hawkeyeop, faithfool brewha (3): Hockey Monkey, Freudian Slit, Pleonast Diomedes (2): HazelNutCoffee, Hal **Day 5** Hazel: Pleo, Diomedes, zuma, Hockey Monkey brewha: faithfool Diomedes: Hazel, Rysto, Hawkeye, Hal, sach, brewha ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1308 "2008-01-28T14:34:50Z")
I also want to take a look at day 5 voting history, whereby HNC and brewha were tied 3-3, then all of a sudden HNC voted Diomedes (the most ridiculous vote ever), and a final-hours pile-on lynched a townie. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1309 "2008-01-28T14:47:07Z")
[QUOTE=Hockey Monkey] At this point, I think there is a scum up on the leaderboard, with another scum in second. The next person on the list ( **Diomedes** ) has had some suspicion and seems to be a good target. [/QUOTE] HM, I think we’re thinking the same way here. All things were slow when **brewha** and **HNC** were garnering votes. Then all of a sudden the **Diomedes** lynch went crazy. I’ve been a **brewha** defender, but I have to re-think this. We have a week and I hope we hear actual analysis from some of the silent players. My prime suspect remains HNC. I won’t place a vote just yet. I really want to hear from the most-bullshit-lynched victim ever, **Diomedes**. I give him credit for actually posting a death scene. If I had that happen to me, I’d be torn between a no death scene, or a “go fuck yourselves” scene 🙂 If I get lynched you’ll get one of the two. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1310 "2008-01-28T15:25:51Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] My prime suspect remains HNC. I won’t place a vote just yet. I really want to hear from the most-bullshit-lynched victim ever, **Diomedes**. I give him credit for actually posting a death scene. If I had that happen to me, I’d be torn between a no death scene, or a “go fuck yourselves” scene 🙂 If I get lynched you’ll get one of the two. [/QUOTE] \ Sometimes you get the best of both worlds… \ ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1311 "2008-01-28T15:33:36Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] I also want to take a look at day 5 voting history, whereby HNC and brewha were tied 3-3, then all of a sudden HNC voted Diomedes (the most ridiculous vote ever), and a final-hours pile-on lynched a townie. [/QUOTE] I’ll post more later - but seriously, how was I supposed to know my one vote was going to turn into a lynch? **Rysto** was the one who called my one vote a bandwagon (just an observation, btw, at least for the time being). If I’d wanted to instigate a pile-on it would have made more sense for me to vote for **brewha** at that point. It wasn’t a throwaway vote - I had reasons which I posted and which made sense to me at the time. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1312 "2008-01-28T15:55:48Z")
Sorry to say, but I think we’re hosed. So far the SOP has been point fingers at me, then in the final hours of the day, lynch someone else. While this has worked once, I really don’t think it’s the best strategy. It looks like **Hockey Monkey** is hell bent on doing it again today though. The town is getting lead around by the scum. I just don’t know who the leader is. The problem is that actually townies are saying very little. It seems like everyone is waiting for someone else to make a decision and then blindly following them. The problem is that it’s not the good guys making the decisions. If we don’t get more participation from actual townies, we have no chance of winning. At this point, however, I doubt that even that boosts our odds much. It was very dumb of me to vote for **Dio** yesterday without a valid reason. At least we know he was town. I’m going to go back and see who he’s been voting for and for what reasons. At least we know that his intentions were good since he is now confirmed town. As for now, my suspicions remain on **Hockey Monkey** and **Pleonast**. **Hawkeyeop** is getting up to the top of my list as well - both for his unfounded accusations of me two days ago and his pleading for the final vote for **Dio** at the end of yesterday. I’m going to look into **Dio** ’s actions before casting a vote though. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1313 "2008-01-28T16:06:53Z")
[QUOTE=brewha] As for now, my suspicions remain on **Hockey Monkey** and **Pleonast**. **Hawkeyeop** is getting up to the top of my list as well - both for his unfounded accusations of me two days ago and his pleading for the final vote for **Dio** at the end of yesterday. I’m going to look into **Dio** ’s actions before casting a vote though. [/QUOTE] I pleaded for the Dio vote, because I was worried about a no lynch. I still believe a no lynch would of been worse and I still believe Hazel is town. vote Brewha I’ll remake and expand my case in the next couple days. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1314 "2008-01-28T16:12:33Z")
Thanks for the colored vote counts, **zuma**. Saves me the opportunity to get it wrong. 😉 While some players like to look the reasoning behind votes (and I hope a few people do do a detailed look at that; the more approaches, the more likely we get one that works), I’ll stick with a simple vote analysis. [QUOTE=zuma] **Day 1** Mhaye (10): OAOW, zuma, brewha, freudian slit, Diomedes, Hawkeyeop, Kat, Cookies, Pleonast, Hockey Monkey zuma (4): sachertorte, Mhaye, Hal Briston, HazelNutCoffee Diomedes (1): storyteller Hal(1): faithfool brewha (1): shadowfacts No Vote (1): Rysto [/quote] I’m not sure how much we can get from Day 1. We had very little information and Scum probably scattered their votes. If we assume that they put their votes in the same pattern as us, there’d be 3 scum voting for **MHaye** and 2 not. So, I’ll guess: 1 scum in zuma, brewha, Hawkeyeop, Pleonast, Hockey Monkey 2 scum in sachertorte, HazelNutCoffee, faithfool, Rysto > [@](#): > > **Day 2** > > Day 2 votes in correct order… I’m not sure there’s much to be gleaned from day 2, for when Cookies revealed the killer’s trait, a OAOW lynch was inevitable. > > However, I thought I’d list the pre-revelation vote count: > > brewha (2): shadowfacts, Hockey Monkey > faithfool (2): Diomedes, Pleonast > Diomedes (1): faithfool > > Here’s the end of day vote count: > > OAOW (10): Hal, Hawkeyeop, sachertorte, shadowfacts, freudian slit, Kat, Hockey Monkey, faithfool, Diomedes, OAOW > Diomedes (1): Rysto > No Vote (5): brewha, Hazel, zuma, story, Pleonast > > The only things to note were that Pleonast placed the 5th vote on OAOW, then unvoted because he said he didn’t want to end the day early. Diomedes placed the 9th vote (I think we’ve discussed that one), and OAOW self-hammered the 10th vote to end the day instantly. Rysto said he placed his vote on Diomedes because of Diomedes’s 9th vote. I don’t think the pre-revelation votes matter much–simply shows who’re the more active players without giving any info on scumminess. And the end of the Day votes are not useful either. It was very clear that OAOW was scum. I won’t make scum estimation from this. > [@](#): > > **Day 3** > > Day 3 vote counts: (This was the no-lynch day - Brewha was 1 vote short of majority) > > brewha (7): sach, Hockey Monkey, Hawkeyeop, fruedian slit, Rysto, Hal, Pleonast > faithfool (2): Diomedes, zuma > Diomedes (2): faithfool, kat > Hawkeyeop(1): Brewha > No Vote (2): HazelNutCoffee, storyteller I think the Scum probably split themselves between for/against **brewha**. 1 scum in sach, Hockey Monkey, Hawkeyeop, Rysto, Pleonast 2 scum in zuma, faithfool, Brewha, HazelNutCoffee (Yes, that’s slightly different than yesterDay. I think I need to include **brewha** in this analysis.) > [@](#): > > **Day 4** > > Here was the state of voting before story laid out his case against Fruedian Slit if anyone is interested: > > brewha (6): Hockey Monkey, freudian slit, hawkeyeop, sachertorte, Diomedes, faithfool > faithfool (2): Pleonast, zuma > Diomedes (1): HazelNutCoffee > Not yet voted: Rysto, storyteller, brewha, Hal > > And the final vote count in the correct order: > > Freudian Slit (8): storyteller, brewha, zuma, Diomedes, sachertorte, rysto, hawkeyeop, faithfool > brewha (3): Hockey Monkey, Freudian Slit, Pleonast > Diomedes (2): HazelNutCoffee, Hal Based on what I said yesterDay, the Scum mostly avoided the bandwagon: 1 scum in brewha, zuma, sachertorte, rysto, hawkeyeop, faithfool 2 scum in Hockey Monkey, Pleonast, HazelNutCoffee Do I really think **Hockey** and **Hazel** are scum? Maybe. But yesterDay, **Hal** was in that pool. Would the Scum really make it that easy to make a case against _two_ of them? I’m probably over-thinking on what’s merely a scrap of information. > [@](#): > > **Day 5** > > Hazel: Pleo, Diomedes, zuma, Hockey Monkey > brewha: faithfool > Diomedes: Hazel, Rysto, Hawkeye, Hal, sach, brewha Three scum left, and a Townie is lynched. Got to guess: 2 scum in Hazel, Rysto, Hawkeye, sach, brewha 1 scum in Pleo, zuma, Hockey Monkey, faithfool ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ So, what’s this all mean? Let’s look at it by player; I’ll list their scumminess fraction for each Day I estimated: brewha: 1/5, 2/4, 1/6, 2/5 faithfool: 2/4, 2/4, 1/6, 1/4 Hockey Monkey: 1/5, 1/5, 2/3, 1/4 Hawkeyeop: 1/5, 1/5, 1/6, 2/5 HazelNutCoffee: 2/4, 2/4, 2/3, 2/5 Pleonast: 1/5, 1/5, 2/3, 1/4 Rysto: 2/4, 1/5, 1/6, 2/5 sachertorte: 2/4, 1/5, 1/6, 2/5 zuma: 1/5, 2/4, 1/6, 1/4 Note that the analysis is as objective as I can make it. But since I know I’m Town, I’ll base my vote on using that: brewha: 1/4, 2/4, 1/6, 2/5 faithfool: 2/4, 2/4, 1/6, 1/3 Hockey Monkey: 1/4, 1/4, 2/2, 1/3 Hawkeyeop: 1/4, 1/4, 1/6, 2/5 HazelNutCoffee: 2/4, 2/4, 2/2, 2/5 Rysto: 2/4, 1/4, 1/6, 2/5 sachertorte: 2/4, 1/4, 1/6, 2/5 zuma: 1/4, 2/4, 1/6, 1/3 **Hazel** still looks the scummiest to me. Least scummy are **Hawkeye** and **zuma**. Everyone else looks about equally scummy to me. I’ll start off my vote with **vote HazelNutCoffee** Depending on the clue we get from **Hal** or other reasonable arguments, I’m willing to change my vote to anyone other than **Hawkeye** or **zuma**. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1315 "2008-01-28T16:28:41Z")
[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop] I pleaded for the Dio vote, because I was worried about a no lynch. I still believe a no lynch would of been worse and I still believe Hazel is town. vote Brewha I’ll remake and expand my case in the next couple days. [/QUOTE] Enough with brewha votes. 5 is a majority and 6 is instalynch. 3 scum are out there and can insta-lynch giving us our last mislynch. we all should not vote without reasons. Enough with all votes until we can digest what has happened. Quit fucking voting and start giving reasons. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1316 "2008-01-28T16:30:42Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] I’ll post more later - but seriously, how was I supposed to know my one vote was going to turn into a lynch? **Rysto** was the one who called my one vote a bandwagon (just an observation, btw, at least for the time being). If I’d wanted to instigate a pile-on it would have made more sense for me to vote for **brewha** at that point. It wasn’t a throwaway vote - I had reasons which I posted and which made sense to me at the time. [/QUOTE] Post your reasons. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1317 "2008-01-28T16:33:01Z")
[QUOTE=brewha It was very dumb of me to vote for **Dio** yesterday without a valid reason. [/QUOTE] Yes it was, brewha. I think you need to explain your vote. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1318 "2008-01-28T16:34:28Z")
[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop] I pleaded for the Dio vote, because I was worried about a no lynch. I still believe a no lynch would of been worse and I still believe Hazel is town. vote Brewha I’ll remake and expand my case in the next couple days. [/QUOTE] Can you not vote in the meantime, or even unvote? Votes are dangerous at this point. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1319 "2008-01-28T16:36:08Z")
I am having a big problem with all these votes right out of the chute. We have little margin for error. Let’s stop this shit now. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1320 "2008-01-28T16:36:27Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] Enough with brewha votes. 5 is a majority and 6 is instalynch. 3 scum are out there and can insta-lynch giving us our last mislynch. we all should not vote without reasons. Enough with all votes until we can digest what has happened. Quit fucking voting and start giving reasons. [/QUOTE] Heh. You are worried that we might insta-lynch Brewha? Somehow I didn’t consider that a major concern. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=65) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=67)