# You-Solve-It Mafia Game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 11, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636 "2007-12-11T18:21:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 67
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1321 "2008-01-28T16:41:08Z")
These sudden votes are worrying to me. It won’t take long for scum to pile on and use up the last of our mislynches. Can we all unvote for the next day or two and actually talk about the votes of the past two days? These early votes seem pretty reckless to me. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1322 "2008-01-28T16:44:54Z")
If scum wanted to pile on **brewha** , they’ve had ample opportunity. The reason they haven’t…well maybe HE"S SCUM! ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1323 "2008-01-28T16:45:42Z")
Can everyone who has voted please unvote right now? It only takes 2 townies voting to let scum hammer our last mislynch. Let’s calm down please. We have 7 days and all these crazy votes jeapordize us. PLEASE UNVOTE IMMEDIATELY ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1324 "2008-01-28T16:47:26Z")
We haven’t even heard from Diomedes and everyone is voting. This is crazy. Unvote now. This insane voting will lead to a scum mislynch. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1325 "2008-01-28T16:48:47Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] **Rysto** was the one who called my one vote a bandwagon (just an observation, btw, at least for the time being). [/QUOTE] Actually, I called **my** vote a bandwagon. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1326 "2008-01-28T16:49:31Z")
Anyone who does not unvote before dio reports looks shady to me. Do not let them lead us by the nose. Unvote now. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1327 "2008-01-28T16:51:11Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] We haven’t even heard from Diomedes and everyone is voting. This is crazy. Unvote now. This insane voting will lead to a scum mislynch. [/QUOTE] **zuma** , \*\*diomedes \*\* is dead, he already had his last word. We won’t be hearing from him anymore. We do need a death scene from **Hal Briston**. And no, I’m not unvoting. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1328 "2008-01-28T16:55:29Z")
I meant hal. Bah. we’re losing today. I don’t care anymore. vote me off. This town is the most fucked up ever. We deserve to lose this and we deserve to lose today. I am sorry for wasting time posting voting histories. I am done with this game. You all deserve to lose. These early votes will kill you. This game has been a fool’s errand and I’m not wasting time with it anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1329 "2008-01-28T17:00:16Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] Can everyone who has voted please unvote right now? It only takes 2 townies voting to let scum hammer our last mislynch. Let’s calm down please. We have 7 days and all these crazy votes jeapordize us. PLEASE UNVOTE IMMEDIATELY [/QUOTE] No, it takes six votes to insta-hammer someone. There’s not going to be a sudden lynch unless half of us agree on it. I’d rather see the real votes out there. Those are what count and we need to see where everyone _truly_ wants to be. It’s too easy to say “I intend to vote for X” and then do the opposite when it counts. Votes really matter now, and I, for one, will be looking to see who votes where and when, _toDay_. **zuma** , as I stated before, I think you’re one of the most likely to be Town. I don’t think three of us are going to converge on the wrong person. (Yeah, I’m trying to be hopeful.) And trying to coerce us to not vote who we think is scummy is counterproductive. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1330 "2008-01-28T17:11:28Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] Yes it was, brewha. I think you need to explain your vote. [/QUOTE] I already said I voted without reason. There’s really not much to explain. I was hoping that **Dio** was scum. I was sure that **Hockey Monkey** and **Pleonast** were scum and I just didn’t want to vote with them. I reasoned that whoever they were voting for was town and I didn’t want to vote for town. But if they are not scum, then I got nothing. The only thing my vote accomplished was determining **Dio** ’s alignment. But, I’ve (quickly)gone over his posts and haven’t come up with anything helpful - I’ll keep looking though. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1331 "2008-01-28T18:29:53Z")
Jesus, **zuma** , could you please calm down? The Day has barely started. I said I’d post later, and I will, once I get off from work. (I already DID post my reasons for voting **Diomedes** ; I’ll summarize them later for everyon’e benefit, but if you really think I’m scum shouldn’t you be looking for them yourself to make sure I don’t self-edit? 😛 ) There are still some people who haven’t checked in yet, and no one is in any danger of getting lynched at this point. Anyway, a rushed lynch is very _obviously_ not in the best interests of the town, so I doubt scum are going to be brazen enough to risk instigating one. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1332 "2008-01-28T23:47:50Z")
What a surprise. An initial manic spasm of posts and then a total drop off. You needn’t’ve worried so much, **zuma**. Look, everyone, we’re not out of the game yet. We’re not even to lynch-or-lose yet. We have a week to figure things out, but let’s not waste time. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1333 "2008-01-28T23:50:45Z")
I think we are waiting for \*\*Hal’s \*\* death scene. After we get that we can get to it. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1334 "2008-01-29T00:08:04Z")
[QUOTE=Hockey Monkey] I think we are waiting for \*\*Hal’s \*\* death scene. After we get that we can get to it. [/QUOTE] These words must have triggered something, for as they flew from your lips to **Hal Briston’s** ears, there came a sudden stabbing light. You closed your eyes, but the light wouldn’t be denied and as the red-tinged light overwhelmed you, your consciousness fled to a place which wasn’t a place. > [@Hal Briston's corpse](#): > > I knew I was playing the odds, but I figured I was inside these guys’ heads. For the past five days one of us has been found brutally murdered – a victim of a consortium of seriously pissed-off coworkers. They had a beef with the company and the way things had been run, and I was fine with that. Their methods were a little on the extreme side, but I could get behind the message they were trying to send. So I figured that after five workdays of murder, it was time for them to kick back and take the weekend off. It’d be perfectly safe for me to head out alone. > > Alone. > > Yeah, right…like I’m ever alone. The voices…those damn voices, following me wherever I go. > > It started out simple enough. When I was hired, my first cubicle was next to Carolyn – the horrid, bitter hag who wore way too much perfume and Never Shut Up. She knew the ins and outs of everything that happened in the company, and she made sure everyone knew it. I spent my first 11 months here sitting six feet away from her, hearing her every “Did you hear about Sal in Accounting?”…“Oooo, guess which hussy secretary is knocked up!”…“That Bettie never does a lick of work, but she keeps getting promoted – wonder why!” > > When I finally got moved to a different department, I was thrilled. I figured I’d be able to work so much better without all the distractions. Then strangest thing had happened – I found that I couldn’t work without the distractions. I needed to know what was going on in every corner of the company! Who was sleeping with whom? Who was getting unjustly promoted? Who was stealing credit for other people’s work? Damnit, I needed to know these things! > > So I listened. I honed my aural skills to the point that I could pick out a gossipy conversation from 50 feet over the din of the noontime cafeteria. If something was going on in this company, I knew about it. > > Which is how I came to know exactly who was behind the Disgruntled Pigs. > > I had pieced together everything I learned over my years with the company, and came up with a perfect suspect. I figured that since it was Saturday, none of the Pigs would be out killing. Rather they’d be off having a brew, relaxing, and plotting for the upcoming work week. All I had to do was find their room…and listen. > > Stealthily, I approached the room I knew my target was in. I pressed my ear up against the door, and heard exactly what I needed to hear…“I agree with Wolfson. Everyone should share in opportunities equally. I know I wish everyone could feel the thrill I feel right now.” > > That voice! I knew it! It was same voice I heard in my recent vision – the voice of the vorpal rabbit trainer! I had done it! I knew exactly who was behind this streak of murder and mayhem! I knew who was sworn to kill us all! I knew who just jammed an 8" ice pick through the door and into my skull! I knew who… > > Ah, crap. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1335 "2008-01-29T01:57:28Z")
Googling “wolfson” makes this the most likely, I think: > **[Evan Wolfson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Wolfson)** > > Evan Wolfson (born February 4, 1957) is an attorney and gay rights advocate. He is the founder of Freedom to Marry, a group favoring same-sex marriage in the United States, serving as president until its 2015 victory and subsequent wind-down. Wolfson authored the book Why Marriage Matters: America, Equality, and Gay People's Right to Marry, which Time Out New York magazine called, "Perhaps the most important gay-marriage primer ever written". He was listed as one of Time magazine's 100 most Wol... “I believe that homosexuals should be allowed to be as miserable as straight couples. If they want to get married, let them.” Only **Hal** claimed to have that trait. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1336 "2008-01-29T02:05:15Z")
Nice work **zuma**. I’ve been puzzling this for the last 2 hours. Since \*\*Hal \*\* is the only one with that claimed trait, it doesn’t help much, huh? ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1337 "2008-01-29T16:49:12Z")
Come on, private spoiler board, it was like the 4th google hit. I challenge you to camouflage the next trait better. Don’t make it too hard though! ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1338 "2008-01-29T16:52:38Z")
Ack, sorry, sorry - first essay assignments turned in this week, lots of grading to do. If **Hal** is the only one with that trait, well, either he committed suicide 😉 or someone is lying about their dossier. Either way, it’s not much help, unfortunately. Guess it’s back to good ol’ post-combing. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1339 "2008-01-29T17:03:05Z")
Could there be more to it than that? He also refers to the vorpal rabbit trainer. The vorpal rabbit is the vicious lil bunny in The Holy Grail. So, who’s the trainer? Also, how’d he know which room the killer was in? Didn’t he say that his special power was that he had accidently gone into Faithfool’s room and found her dossier? Is this a clue? I’m going to see if I can find what he said about finding it. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1340 "2008-01-29T17:09:59Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] Ack, sorry, sorry - first essay assignments turned in this week, lots of grading to do. If **Hal** is the only one with that trait, well, either he committed suicide 😉 or someone is lying about their dossier. Either way, it’s not much help, unfortunately. Guess it’s back to good ol’ post-combing. [/QUOTE] Eh, I’m voting for you again, **HNC** , unless something extraordinary happens. I agree with the **Pleonast** vote analysis. You’ve been on the wrong side of every vote since this game started. No offense, but you again have a pattern of wishy-washy conclusions and taking no real stand. Either way, it’s not much help! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=66) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=68)