# You-Solve-It Mafia Game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 11, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636 "2007-12-11T18:21:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 70
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1381 "2008-01-31T16:13:55Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] On preview: thank you for contributing. I think your wrong about **Hawk** (based on my own analysis), but at least your trying. [/QUOTE] Not edited: this is what I get for not previewing my preview. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1382 "2008-01-31T16:36:20Z")
There’s no grudges here. It’s just a game that I would very much like to win. It’s not that you voted for me that causes me to cast suspicion on you. It’s that when the vote started swinging towards **Frued** - who turned out to be scum - you tried to get the focus back on me. I don’t care what you say - that looks scummy. Yes, I am very much frustrated with this game and I do almost want to just give up. The frustration is caused by the town doing the same thing everyday. “Look! Brewha’s scum!” Then I get a few votes. Then _ **nothing** _ is said for the rest of the game day until a few hours before lynch time. Then everyone scrambles to vote for someone and nothing good comes of it. It looks to be happening again today. And I see no reason to believe that it’s not going to happen again tomorrow. What can I do about it? Most of the suspicion that has been cast on me is a direct result of my ‘over-participation’. So, how do I make a case against someone without posting? Better still, how can I make a case against those who don’t post. I can’t. The lack of participation is going to be the downfall of the town. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1383 "2008-01-31T18:12:09Z")
By my count, here are the suspicion lists. This is based off my readings of your posts, please make corrections and/or elaborate. Hockey =\> brewha, Hazel, Rysto zuma =\> Hazel, brewha Hazel =\> brewha, Rysto brewha =\> Hawkeye, Hockey, Pleonast Hawkeye =\> brewha Pleonast =\> Hazel sach =\> Hazel, brewha Rysto =\> ??? faithfool =\> ??? no posts toDay Actual votes: brewha \<= Hockey, Hawkeye, sach Hazel \<= Pleonast Hawkeye \<= brewha **Rysto** and **faithfool** : please help us out. Who do you think is suspicious? _Everyone_: can everyone either vote or state explicitly who they will vote for (keeping in mind we do not want any quick lynches)? ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1384 "2008-01-31T18:21:18Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] By my count, here are the suspicion lists. This is based off my readings of your posts, please make corrections and/or elaborate. Hockey =\> brewha, Hazel, Rysto zuma =\> Hazel, brewha Hazel =\> brewha, Rysto brewha =\> Hawkeye, Hockey, Pleonast Hawkeye =\> brewha Pleonast =\> Hazel sach =\> Hazel, brewha Rysto =\> ??? faithfool =\> ??? no posts toDay Actual votes: brewha \<= Hockey, Hawkeye, sach Hazel \<= Pleonast Hawkeye \<= brewha **Rysto** and **faithfool** : please help us out. Who do you think is suspicious? _Everyone_: can everyone either vote or state explicitly who they will vote for (keeping in mind we do not want any quick lynches)? [/QUOTE] Rysto would be #2 choice to lynch. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1385 "2008-01-31T18:37:13Z")
I’m contemplating switching my vote over to \*\*Rysto \*\* right now. The dossier reveal stance bothers me, but his vote on \*\*Diomedes \*\* is the cincher for me. **Brewha** , you have made some compelling pleas that are sounding more and more townie to me, and I would be willing to spare you in favor of either \*\*Rysto \*\* or \*\*Hazel \*\* today, so long as we don’t consider you “confirmed” if we do so. You are still very very high on my suspect list. I still don’t see how you are still alive if you are town. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1386 "2008-01-31T19:54:53Z")
Well that’s the bitch of it - the only way to be confirmed town is to die. We have only one mislynch left and wasting it on me would not be the best choice at this point. I’m certainly not saying you can’t lynch me - my life and work would be much simpler if you did - I’m just not going to encourage it. It’s become painfully obvious to me that the players that I’m most heavily pointing fingers at are the players that are participating the most. **Rysto** has participated very little and not said much when he has posted. I’d be willing to vote for him under the premise that if you are town and you are not participating you are partially to blame for our loss. Here’s a tidy package for everyone: **Rysto HaznelnutCoffee Faithfool** I get the feeling that these three have been posting just enough to be seen as posting, but never really saying anything. I believed **Hal’s** claim to know **Faithfool’s** dossier info - so I’ve been just kinda ignoring her. But, she has done nothing to gain (or for that matter betray) my trust. Which is actually the perfect thing to do if you are scum. The rest of us have been posting consistently and consistently pointing fingers at each other (mostly me at all of you and all of you at me). Perfect for the scum - if those three listed above are the scum and the rest of us aren’t. Unvote Hawkeyeop **Rysto** has been most consistently inconspicious - I’m comfortable with chucking him over the cliff. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1387 "2008-02-01T00:37:37Z")
For a Day that’s ending today (?) , it’s sure quiet in here. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1388 "2008-02-01T00:42:10Z")
The day ends sunday. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1389 "2008-02-01T01:27:36Z")
Oh. Scraaaaatch that then! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1390 "2008-02-01T01:47:46Z")
I have a deadline tomorrow. Don’t expect much out of me before then. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1391 "2008-02-01T03:41:29Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] _Everyone_: can everyone either vote or state explicitly who they will vote for (keeping in mind we do not want any quick lynches)? [/QUOTE] **HazelNutCoffee** for reasons previously stated. I also plan on going back and taking a look at **sachertorte** before the day is out. I can’t really put my finger on anything beyond a general uneasiness, so I want to put that one to bed one way or another. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1392 "2008-02-01T04:36:18Z")
Sorry - I need to catch up on today and yesterday. Thank God tomorrow is Friday - have no classes to teach, so I’ll catch up and post my vote tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1393 "2008-02-01T06:34:55Z")
I swear this has been the most screwed up time for me to try posting. :mad: Anyway, I apologize to everyone for not having been able to get on. The computer has died where I’m staying at and I’m only able to temporarily borrow a friend’s laptop. Hopefully, they’ll get the damn thing back up and running tomorrow, but it doesn’t look promising. I’ll do my best to keep y’all updated. Anyway, as of the moment I’m going to stick with my vote for **brewha** because, although I feel their pain about constantly being under the microscope, I wonder why we haven’t lynched before if it’s always that close. I guess the ‘if there’s smoke, there must be fire’ approach is setting off warning bells, especially if everyone now shifts focus to someone else due to a self-vote. Or at least, if I understood it correctly, that’s what was thought of me. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1394 "2008-02-01T06:35:57Z")
Shit. **vote brewha** ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1395 "2008-02-01T09:36:08Z")
[QUOTE=faithfool] I guess the ‘if there’s smoke, there must be fire’ approach is setting off warning bells, especially if everyone now shifts focus to someone else due to a self-vote. Or at least, if I understood it correctly, that’s what was thought of me. [/QUOTE] So should we vote for you too, since you self-voted? ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1396 "2008-02-01T09:38:12Z")
**vote: HazelNutCoffee** , who I find much more suspicious than **brewha** , especially factoring in vote history. I will switch my vote to anyone who starts the clock early and/or hammers. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1397 "2008-02-01T13:42:30Z")
Things I’ve learned while rereading the thread part two. So I’m through page 12 on my reread. Brewha, thus far, has seemed more town then scummy, which is pretty impressive given that I am having trouble not reading his posts as confirmed scum. The only things that he has did early on that hit my scum radar are not having a unique trait (only OAOW shared this fact) and his claiming to have to discovered a secret pattern. Storyteller rightly points out that there was no reason for Brewha to reveal his knowledge of the pattern until after all the dossiers were revealed, and I don’t think his answer to this were satisfactory. The other thing that caught my eye was Sach stating: > [@](#): > > (My personal opinion is that Santo Rugger’s killer lied about his/her dossier and did not state the VW bug characteristic). We know now that this was not true and OAOW was honest about this trait. Now, it is certainly possible for Sach to have that opinion without any additional knowledge. I don’t want to discount the possibly that Sach new OAOW didn’t lie though, and wished to push the conversation away from OAOW. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1398 "2008-02-01T14:24:02Z")
Hawk, I’ve read through day 1, and something doesn’t ring right with **sach** to me. I think it’s because he played M5 as town, when I was scum, and we had these debates about killing him, because he was so active, so agressive, and was usually right. I’m just not getting the same impression from him in this game. That said, I’ve only read through day 1 so far, and can’t really fault him for anything particularly scummy yet. But this just doesn’t look like the same one who played in M5. **sach** is just someone that needs to be looked at. He’s kind of an enigma for me so far. It’s not really fair to **sach** that I keep throwing nebulous suspicion at him, but there we are. I won’t be voting for him today, though. Also, I am back to agreeing that **brewha** doesn’t bother me at this point. I was concerned about the day 5 votes, but reading brewha’s posts, and his voting history, leave him off my lynch list for today. I’m good with **HNC** , still based on voting history. Also, if **brewha** were scum, it would mean that 3 out of the first 4 **Mhaye** voters were scum. (4 of 4 if you think I am scum), which I just think is improbable. At this time I’d vote for a lot of people before **brewha**. I’m also not sure how far I’m willing to forgive **faithfool** for her newbiness. She’s been at it a while now, and I’d like to see some better analysis from her. People I’m very worried about right now: **HNC** **sachertorte** **rysto** **faithfool** I hope to have something more substantial tomorrow. But these four just bother me, with **HNC** far and away the most troublesome. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1399 "2008-02-01T15:33:08Z")
It’s a snow day and the re-read begins. Has it always said “Abandon all hope, ye who enter here” on Page 1? ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1400 "2008-02-01T16:13:24Z")
[QUOTE=Rysto] It’s probably too late to look at this now, but early in the game **Freudian** said that she trusted **Dio** but really had nothing to back it up with. Now that we know that she was scum, it looks to me like the kind of mistake a newer player could make. He’s also been voting aggressively, and I’m not sure that’s pro-Town [/QUOTE] Rysto, nice to see you around. Did you really believe that **freudian** would make a scum slip saying that a fellow scum was trusted? This seems like a silly argument. A scum would not make this kind of “mistake”. Also, what did you mean by “voting aggressively”. If you mean putting votes on record early, that seems like something a townie would do. Also, **Rysto** , I apologize for being aggressive, but you’ve been largely absent here, and you’re rising to the forefront of my suspicions. Why did you vote **Diomedes** with no reason other than “let’s get this bandwagon rolling”? Based on voting history, who do you find most scummy? Based on anything other than voting history, who do you find most scummy? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=69) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=71)