# You-Solve-It Mafia Game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 11, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636 "2007-12-11T18:21:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 74
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1461 "2008-02-03T02:55:32Z")
[QUOTE=Rysto] Translation: “Our teammate is in trouble. Quick, get back on the **brewha** bandwagon.” [/QUOTE] Or, you know, maybe I’ve thought Brewha was scum since day 3, Hockey Monkey has thought so longer, and now we can finally get him lynched. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1462 "2008-02-03T02:57:55Z")
Another thing that I’d like to throw out here is that yesterDay, **Hal** was pressuring **Hawkeyeop** , and now Hal’s dead. On the other hand, I’m not sure if I’ve ever actually seen scum kill off a player for pressuring scum unless they believe the townie is a Seer. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1463 "2008-02-03T03:58:13Z")
So, I’ll see you all here tomorrow for another exciting game of last-minute lynch? Well, at least for once I got my votes in early, put together some analysis and built what I think is a pretty good case against my targets. Even **Hockey Monkey** agrees that I’ve got a good case. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1464 "2008-02-03T04:22:40Z")
Uh huh, I even voted for you! 🙂 Seriously, though, I’m starting the clock. unvote Rysto Vote HazelNutCoffee ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1465 "2008-02-03T04:29:37Z")
Are you trying to psych me out here? It won’t work. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1466 "2008-02-03T16:06:58Z")
So, either everybody’s completely satisfied with this lynch, or nobody’s checked in on a Sunday morning. In the interests of not cutting off discussion, I’ll unvote. Fellow townies, for the love of God, don’t make me regret this. **Unvote Hazel** ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1467 "2008-02-03T16:10:38Z")
**Vote Hazel** The day ends today at 2pm Pacific, 5pm Eastern. Please keep in mind that if anybody else votes for Hazel, the day will end immediately. If everyone else is happy with a **Hazel** lynch, though, I’m certainly happy with it. Oh, and **Hockey Monkey**? Starting the clock at 11:30 at night? How very townie of you. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1468 "2008-02-03T16:10:49Z")
The day now ends at 2 p.m. pacific. As of right now, there won’t be a lynch. I’m ok with you stopping the clock, **Rysto** , to further any discussion, but let’s just be aware of the deadline. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1469 "2008-02-03T16:13:16Z")
OK, I see what you were doing. Better to just let it end at 2 rather than 11:30. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1470 "2008-02-03T17:15:37Z")
Ugh. Hungover. I typed out a long post, but I re-read it and it’s nothing I haven’t said before, plus I’m hungover so it doesn’t make much sense. Pure survival instinct would have me vote for brewha, but I don’t think he’s scum (if he is scum, scum have been playing an awfully close game). And despite Rysto’s crackpot theory that assumes the scumminess of not one but three players, I don’t think he’s scum either, based on the reasons I outlined in my previous post. And yet, if I vote for someone else, I am again going to be accused of making a “safe” vote. I am vaguely reminded of the Pit thread where people are complaining about those who vote for candidates that will never be elected for president anyway. Look, I don’t care what the majority thinks; I’m going to vote in whatever way I deem is pro-town. Sometimes that aligns with the majority’s opinon, sometimes not. I just want to emphasize again - if I were scum and trying to save my own neck, it would have made much more sense for me to vote for someone already garnering votes. It would have drawn less attention and there would have been a higher probability of me being saved, doncha think? Ugh. I don’t want to vote for any of the candidates up for lynching right now (including myself, obviously), but I’m trying to decide if it’s worth voting at all for someone else at this point. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1471 "2008-02-03T17:17:29Z")
Oh, never mind. It seems a majority has been reached and I’m spitting into the wind, or whatever the metaphor is. ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1472 "2008-02-03T17:28:37Z")
[QUOTE=Rysto] That’s a dangerous way of thinking. “We can’t win if this is true, therefore it can’t be true”? I’ve seen that one backfire massively in the past(see: “if **storyteller** is scum we’ve lost, so I trust **storyteller** ” from Mafia 2). Examine your assumption. I’ve yet to hear a reasonable explanation for how **brewha** could be town, **Hazel** could be scum and **Hazel** not vote for **brewha**. I don’t believe **brewha** ’s explanation that the scum want him alive. I agree that the scum have been milking the **brewha** bandwagon for all that it’s worth to distract the town, but for the scum, better a dead Townie than a dead scum. [/QUOTE] I’ll give you that, Rysto. I am slightly bothered by the fact that **HNC** did not vote **brewha**. Maybe she would have come back later and switched her vote? Maybe **brewha** really is scum? But really, I have to just go back and put everything in proper perspective. I just go back to **Diomedes** getting lynched out of the blue, and **Hazel** having a really suspicious voting history. And I’ll admit that **HNC** claiming the Sicily trait is a factor. I tend to have a backwards-ass approach to this game, in that I kind of try to identify townies, then try to hone in on scum. Worked for **Diomedes** and I hope it works for **HM** and somewhat for **brewha** , and I try to re-examine my conclusions each day. Eh. I’m rambling. I’ll say again that this game is a learning experience for me… I do hope I’m on the right track. All I can do is vote who I think is the most scummy… ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1473 "2008-02-03T18:06:49Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] And despite Rysto’s crackpot theory that assumes the scumminess of not one but three players, [/QUOTE] I don’t assume the scumminess of the three of you. I find **Hockey Monkey** and **Hawkeyeop** suspicious because of the reasons that I’ve voiced earlier, as well as some other things that I can really only sum up as “they’ve been pinging my scumdar”. I also find the arguments against you, **Hazel** , to be compelling, but I couldn’t get over the fact that you refused to vote for **brewha**. My theory just tries to answer the question of why, if you were scum, you did not vote for **brewha**. And now that I have a viable theory as to why you would vote as you did if you were scum, I can accept the arguments that are are scum. The fact that my theory just adds more evidence against the three of you is just gravy. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1474 "2008-02-03T18:42:28Z")
Gah, this is frustrating. Hockey Why due you think Hazel is scummier then Brewha? Hazel, If Hockey or anyone else was willing to switch over from you to Brewha, would you vote Brewha? Would you prefer a no lynch to lynching Brewha? ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1475 "2008-02-03T19:05:50Z")
[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop] Gah, this is frustrating. Hockey Why due you think Hazel is scummier then Brewha? Hazel, If Hockey or anyone else was willing to switch over from you to Brewha, would you vote Brewha? Would you prefer a no lynch to lynching Brewha? [/QUOTE] I don’t think **HM** has stated she thinks **hazel** is scummier than **brewa** No-lynch at this point is the same as a lynch of a townie. We’d be lynch or lose tomrrow regardless. I support a lynch today because even if the lynchee is town, it provides data points, and one less person to consider tomrrow. I hope I am right and we off a disgruntled, but even if we’re wrong it’s better than a no lynch. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1476 "2008-02-03T19:52:44Z")
[QUOTE=zuma] I don’t think **HM** has stated she thinks **hazel** is scummier than **brewa** [/QUOTE] Her vote says that. If she voted for Brewha, it would of evened things 4 to 4 with Brewha and Hazel, with only Hazel left to vote. If Hazel was willing to vote Brewha at that point (hence question two), Hockey is, in essence, choosing to lynch Hazel over Brewha. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1477 "2008-02-03T22:01:33Z")
Just barely made it back. Let’s hope we got the right one. I’m thinking we have to look closer at Hawkeye and Hockey if HNC does turn up scum. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1478 "2008-02-03T22:02:36Z")
That should be it; night starts when **NAF** posts. _Now I lay me down to sleep, Pray the Lord my soul to keep, And if the scum my life should take Send **HM** tumbling in my wake_ ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1479 "2008-02-03T22:14:55Z")
Management has a mean streak and almost decided to make you think that HNC wasn’t scum. Management had written a whole 3 paragraph essay taunting town about how bad they were at this. Manangement has since thought better of it. You guys deserve to get some straight talk. HNC - a very disgruntled associate has been killed. Good work team. Keep it up. Day 7 will start no later then 48 hours from this post. Go Team! ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1480 "2008-02-03T22:22:08Z")
Apparently scum can forget about the game. Feel free not to listen to me in the future… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=73) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=75)