# You-Solve-It Mafia Game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 11, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636 "2007-12-11T18:21:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 83
**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1641 "2008-02-13T16:40:46Z")
Bumping from the Peanut Gallery to wallow in self-pity about how slow the [off-site game](http://psychopathgame.proboards106.com/) is going. I feel like the worst mod ever… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1642 "2008-02-13T17:20:29Z")
[QUOTE=dotchan] Bumping from the Peanut Gallery to wallow in self-pity about how slow the [off-site game](http://psychopathgame.proboards106.com/) is going. I feel like the worst mod ever… ☹ [/QUOTE] Don’t worry, Dot, you are doing fine over there. PM me if you ever want to commiserate on the woes of modding mafia games. Sorry about the lack of color Hockey. but the scum have selected a Night kill and I still have no time to really write something up for you. If you would like to submit some ideas to me, I will be happy to post a death scene of your choosing. Brewha - associate is dead. Here is the current player list. faithfool Hawkeyeop Pleonast Rysto sachertorte It’s lynch or lose for the town. And will take 3 votes to secure a lynch, 4 votes to end the Day instantly. You have 7 Days from this post. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1643 "2008-02-13T18:16:28Z")
Down to the wire. Continuing the vote counts… **Day 1** Mhaye (10): OAOW, zuma, brewha, freudian slit, Diomedes, Hawkeyeop, Kat, Cookies, Pleonast, Hockey Monkey zuma (4): sachertorte, Mhaye, Hal Briston, HazelNutCoffee Diomedes (1): storyteller Hal(1): faithfool brewha (1): shadowfacts No Vote (1): Rysto **Day 2** Day 2 votes in correct order… I’m not sure there’s much to be gleaned from day 2, for when Cookies revealed the killer’s trait, a OAOW lynch was inevitable. However, I thought I’d list the pre-revelation vote count: brewha (2): shadowfacts, Hockey Monkey faithfool (2): Diomedes, Pleonast Diomedes (1): faithfool Here’s the end of day vote count: OAOW (10): Hal, Hawkeyeop, sachertorte, shadowfacts, freudian slit, Kat, Hockey Monkey, faithfool, Diomedes, OAOW Diomedes (1): Rysto No Vote (5): brewha, Hazel, zuma, story, Pleonast The only things to note were that Pleonast placed the 5th vote on OAOW, then unvoted because he said he didn’t want to end the day early. Diomedes placed the 9th vote (I think we’ve discussed that one), and OAOW self-hammered the 10th vote to end the day instantly. Rysto said he placed his vote on Diomedes because of Diomedes’s 9th vote. **Day 3** Day 3 vote counts: (This was the no-lynch day - Brewha was 1 vote short of majority) brewha (7): sach, Hockey Monkey, Hawkeyeop, fruedian slit, Rysto, Hal, Pleonast faithfool (2): Diomedes, zuma Diomedes (2): faithfool, kat Hawkeyeop(1): Brewha No Vote (2): HazelNutCoffee, storyteller **Day 4** Here was the state of voting before story laid out his case against Fruedian Slit if anyone is interested: brewha (6): Hockey Monkey, freudian slit, hawkeyeop, sachertorte, Diomedes, faithfool faithfool (2): Pleonast, zuma Diomedes (1): HazelNutCoffee Not yet voted: Rysto, storyteller, brewha, Hal And the final vote count in the correct order: Freudian Slit (8): storyteller, brewha, zuma, Diomedes, sachertorte, rysto, hawkeyeop, faithfool brewha (3): Hockey Monkey, Freudian Slit, Pleonast Diomedes (2): HazelNutCoffee, Hal **Day 5** Hazel: Pleo, Diomedes, zuma, Hockey Monkey brewha: faithfool Diomedes: Hazel, Rysto, Hawkeye, Hal, sach, brewha **Day 6** HazelNutCoffee: Pleo, zuma, brewha, Rysto, Hockey brewha: hawk, sach, faithfool No Vote: Hazel **Day 7** Hockey Monkey: Pleo, Rysto, brewha, Hawk, sach (not certain about order) Sachertorte: Hockey Monkey No Vote: faith ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1644 "2008-02-13T18:22:08Z")
Not sure how much these help, but I want to look over them, so might as well post 'em. **faith** 1st Hal (Single) 8th OaOW (Lynch, Hammer) 1st Diomedes 8th Freud (Lynch, Post-Hammer) 1st brewha (Single) 3rd brewha (No Vote) **Hawkeye** 6th MHaye (Lynch) 2nd OaOW (Lynch) 3rd brewha 7th Freud (Lynch, Hammer) 3rd Diomedes (Lynch) 1st brewha Hockey (Lynch) **Pleonast** 9th MHaye (Lynch) (No Vote) 7th brewha 3rd brewha 1st Hazel 1st Hazel (Lynch) Hockey (Lynch) **Rysto** (No Vote) 1st Diomedes (Single) 5th brewha 6th Freud (Lynch) 2nd Diomedes (Lynch) 4th Hazel (Lynch) Hockey (Lynch) **sach** 1st zuma 3rd OaOW (Lynch) 1st brewha 5th Freud (Lynch) 5th Diomedes (Lynch) 3rd brewha Hockey (Lynch) ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1645 "2008-02-13T18:32:53Z")
I may well miss the end of this Day, guys. I will be skiing next week. It’s not booked yet, so I don’t know when I’ll be gone. When I know my schedule I’ll let you know. It’s lynch or lose, which means that all three townies must vote together. And if two townies mis-vote, the two scum can insta-hammer and win the game. Be very wary before placing a vote. I’m going to take a real long look at **faithfool**. Her voting record is awful, and with **Hockey** turning up town, I don’t think that a single scum was on that initial bandwagon. That makes me very suspicious. I also have to say that I’m very surprised to see that **Pleonast** is still alive. Was it just me, or did everybody seem to trust that he was town? Why didn’t the scum eliminate him? It’s in their interest to kill off the most trusted townies. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1646 "2008-02-13T18:42:39Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] Not sure how much these help, but I want to look over them, so might as well post 'em. **faith** 1st Hal (Single) 8th OaOW (Lynch, Hammer) 1st Diomedes 8th Freud (Lynch, Post-Hammer) 1st brewha (Single) 3rd brewha (No Vote) **Hawkeye** 6th MHaye (Lynch) 2nd OaOW (Lynch) 3rd brewha 7th Freud (Lynch, Hammer) 3rd Diomedes (Lynch) 1st brewha Hockey (Lynch) **Pleonast** 9th MHaye (Lynch) (No Vote) 7th brewha 3rd brewha 1st Hazel 1st Hazel (Lynch) Hockey (Lynch) **Rysto** (No Vote) 1st Diomedes (Single) 5th brewha 6th Freud (Lynch) 2nd Diomedes (Lynch) 4th Hazel (Lynch) Hockey (Lynch) **sach** 1st zuma 3rd OaOW (Lynch) 1st brewha 5th Freud (Lynch) 5th Diomedes (Lynch) 3rd brewha Hockey (Lynch) [/QUOTE] Hey, everyone’s final vote was on scum twice. How symmetrical. This isn’t going to be easy, even if we can figure out who the last 2 scum are. We need all three town members to agree, and be able to post, or we lose. My current order of suspicion is. Sach Rysto Pleo Faith I will not vote until Brewha’s death post comes in though. Sorry Brewha. I was right on Hockey atleast… ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1647 "2008-02-13T19:47:07Z")
[QUOTE=Rysto] I also have to say that I’m very surprised to see that **Pleonast** is still alive. Was it just me, or did everybody seem to trust that he was town? Why didn’t the scum eliminate him? It’s in their interest to kill off the most trusted townies. [/QUOTE] I was more surprised that I survived the Night after we got **Hazel**. If they didn’t kill me after that, well, I didn’t do so hot going after Hockey. I need to see if my vote analysis comes up with a clear answer, but I’m not sure it’s enough to base a vote on. I’m more tempted to look at the Dossiers now. They may be killing us off based on our traits somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1648 "2008-02-13T22:04:13Z")
I’ll step through the different Days and comment on each player. With two scum left among the four of you, I gots 50-50 odds. Day 1: You each voted differently. The three of you who voted for a player, voted for a Townie. **Rysto** didn’t vote for anyone. I think that makes **Rysto** the most suspicious of that Day. Day 2: You all voted for OAOW, while **Rysto** voted for Diomedes. Another bad mark for him. Day 3: You all voted for brewha, while **faithfool** voted Diomedes. I’m tempted to think this is a good mark for faith. I think the brewha vote was dominated by scum. Day 4: You all voted for Freud, and were in fact the last four voters! **Hawkeye** was the hammer, and **faith** jumped on after. I’ll count that as a bad mark for **faith**. Day 5: You all voted for Diomedes, except for **faithfool** who went for brewha. Not sure what to make of this. Day 6: You all voted for brewha, except for **Rysto** who followed me on Hazel. And everyone else who voted for Hazel is now a dead Townie. Is **Rysto** a Scum who put a vote on Hazel to break up the block on brewha? Or was he a Townie voting with the rest of us? Based on how the story vote went (where I know two Scum jumped on the wagon), I’m inclined to say Scum. Day 7: You all voted for Hockey, except for **faith** who didn’t vote. Whatever **faith** ’s alignment, I believe his real life problems prevented a vote. No tell. Looking over the Days, I now see exactly why I am still alive–every Day, you four voted in a block, with one of you not in the block. That fact totally screws my previous method of analysis. :smack: But based on a Day by Day look, I think I rank you guys from most scummy to not: Rysto sach == Hawkeye faith My vote would be on **Rysto** at this point, but I won’t place it yet. I’m equally suspicious of **sach** and **Hawkeye**. I’m not seeing **faith** as Scum right now. And brewha’s clue may change my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1649 "2008-02-13T22:15:13Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] Day 1: You each voted differently. The three of you who voted for a player, voted for a Townie. **Rysto** didn’t vote for anyone. I think that makes **Rysto** the most suspicious of that Day. [/quote] Now come on, I explained that. I was right at the end of my exam period, I lost a day traveling and I spent the next day Christmas shopping. I got caught up with an hour to go with **MHaye** already at the required majority. I let you all know well ahead of Day 1 that I would not be able to participate much. > [@](#): > > Day 2: You all voted for OAOW, while **Rysto** voted for Diomedes. Another bad mark for him. I wasn’t going to insta-hammer **OAOW**. That bandwagon was giving me awful flashbacks to the **Autolycus** lynch in M2. Unanimous rushes to judgment scare the crap out of me. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1650 "2008-02-13T22:24:04Z")
[QUOTE=Rysto] I wasn’t going to insta-hammer **OAOW**. That bandwagon was giving me awful flashbacks to the **Autolycus** lynch in M2. Unanimous rushes to judgment scare the crap out of me. [/QUOTE] Me, too. That’s why I unvoted OAOW. But why did you vote for Dio? Anything to say about your vote for Hazel on Day 6? Do you want to present an argument for lynching someone else? ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1651 "2008-02-14T00:04:25Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] Me, too. That’s why I unvoted OAOW. But why did you vote for Dio? [/quote] I was expressing my displeasure that he put **OAOW** on the clock. > [@](#): > > Anything to say about your vote for Hazel on Day 6? What? Now I need to justify voting for scum, too? Would you prefer that I had voted for **brewha**? I think that my reasons for voting **Hazel** are pretty clear. Of course, **Hockey Monkey** ’s lynch has shown that my case was crap, but my reasons for voting for **Hazel** are a matter of record. > [@](#): > > Do you want to present an argument for lynching someone else? I want to, but I want to pass Networks more. I’m afraid that this game will have to wait. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1652 "2008-02-14T14:52:43Z")
Anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1653 "2008-02-14T15:16:08Z")
[QUOTE=Pleonast] Anyone? [/QUOTE] I’m generally waiting for Brewha at this point. I think Sach is scum. I don’t think Faith is scum. I’m torn between you and Rysto, but leaning towards Rysto. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1654 "2008-02-14T15:22:12Z")
Just cause I like to argue with you Hawkeye - you’re waiting on Mtgman, not me. 😃 He has my lame death scene and is presumably checking it over. It’s been fun and I’m actually relieved to have been killed by scum. I do not envy the remaining town and the decisions that you have to make. Good luck town! Rot in Hell Scum! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1655 "2008-02-14T15:37:31Z")
[QUOTE=brewha] Just cause I like to argue with you Hawkeye - you’re waiting on Mtgman, not me. 😃 He has my lame death scene and is presumably checking it over. It’s been fun and I’m actually relieved to have been killed by scum. I do not envy the remaining town and the decisions that you have to make. Good luck town! Rot in Hell Scum! 😃 [/QUOTE] I had a friend in college whose beliefs were, pretty much across the board, the polar opposite of mine. We both tended to be fairly outspoken, so throughout the years, we argued about any topic that would come up. We had one memorable exchange towards the end recapping a previous discuss on amending the constitution of an extracurricular organization. Him “Joel (my actual name) and I disagreed on everything.” Me “That’s not true.” Took me a few seconds to realize why everyone was laughing. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1656 "2008-02-14T18:28:20Z")
And now, a musical interlude. These eyes arrrreeee glazin these eyes have seen a lotta death but they’re never gonna see another death like they have with **brew** **ha** **ha** **ha** **ha** These eyes AAAARRRRRRRREEEE glazin… > [@brewha](#): > > "After the devastating truth that I had a major role in killing a fellow townie, I felt like a drink. I moseyed into the pub and ordered a Blue Lagoon and proceeded to talk to the bartender. I thought it was odd that a fellow employee was serving drinks at this resort, but I was thirsty and thought nothing else of it. The barkeep and I chatted it up to pass the time until I was drunk enough to put this whole HockeyMonkey nonsense behind me. The bar was empty except for the barkeep and I. I guess after the day’s events no one else wanted to leave their room. After my 4th refill, I noticed this rather strange almond flavor. I figured the barkeep must’ve put too much almaretto in my drink and proceeded to sip away. The lights started dimming around me and I noticed my arms and legs going numb. I lost my balance and fell backward off my barstool. As I lay on my back - unable to speak - I thought to myself that I shouldn’t be this drunk off 4 drinks. That’s when it dawned on me that there shouldn’t be any almaretto in a Blue Lagoon… > > Then again, there shouldn’t be cyanide either… > > Although completely paralyzed, I was still conscious as the barkeep grabbed me to drag me out of the bar. The last thing I heard as I lost consciousness was the music in the ear of my killer. I could clearly hear the Ipod softly playing very soothing music – it was ‘[Sand and Water](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001227FS0/ref=dm_mu_dp_trk4?ie=UTF8&qid=1202924190&sr=8-3)’ by Beth Nielsen Chapman. " Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1657 "2008-02-14T18:36:07Z")
This is a new killer. Unless this clue matches one of **faithfool** ’s traits, this confirms her as a Townie. Which blows yet another of my theories completely out of the water. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1658 "2008-02-14T18:44:06Z")
[Here’s the song](http://youtube.com/watch?v=3zaoYkCPUN8) [Here are the lyrics.](http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/nielsen-chapman-beth/sand-and-water-14861.html) ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1659 "2008-02-14T19:24:50Z")
What’s the trait the clue is referring to? I’m at a loss. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1660 "2008-02-14T20:22:19Z")
Here are the traits of the people still alive. Pleonast 1 I am scared of moths. Pleonast (public) 1 I had my last cat, Clawdia, professionally preserved and she sits in my bedroom. Pleonast 1 I have handled and fed a lot of snakes, alligators and crocodiles. Pleonast 1 I was once bitten by a wild animal while visiting Dollywood. Pleonast 1 I’ve wandered and built on an old, live Soviet bomb dump. Pleonast 1 My mother was a former NFL cheerleader. faithfool (public) 5 I believe the Honda Element is a good-looking car. faithfool 5 I enjoy practicing the cello. faithfool 5 I have been shot in the head with a muzzleloading .45 caliber pistol and in leg with a bow and arrow. faithfool 5 I have performed an exorcism. faithfool 5 I provided a line in a song that became a top 20 hit for the band Traffic. faithfool 5 I voted for a boy for prom queen. Rysto 6 Farts are really funny. People only pretend to not think they are. Rysto 6 I believe that the world would be a much better place if about 25% of the population were taken out back and shot. Rysto 6 I believe the cruelty makes foie gras all the more tasty. Rysto 6 I started a forest fire by playing with matches. Rysto 6 I was in a biker movie. sachertorte 13 I got an autograph from Billy Crystal on top of the World Trade Center. sachertorte 13 I have gone to Disney World 3 times and Disneyland at least 5 times sachertorte 13 I watched as over 30 people jumped out of an airborne aircraft. sachertorte 13 I’ve been a model appearing on the cover of a nationwide catalog. sachertorte (public) 13 I’ve climbed to the top chamber of Cheops. sachertorte 13 I’ve eaten grilled cow udder more than once. Hawkeyeop (public) 17 I have performed an exorcism. Hawkeyeop 17 I speak Swahili. Hawkeyeop 17 I was in a biker movie. Hawkeyeop 17 I’ve been a model appearing on the cover of a nationwide catalog Hawkeyeop 17 I’ve been on the cover of a Chicago area phone book. Hawkeyeop 17 I’ve bowled two perfect 300 games [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=82) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=84)