# You-Solve-It Mafia Game

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 11, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636 "2007-12-11T18:21:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1701 "2008-02-20T15:56:24Z")

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90 minutes folks.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1702 "2008-02-20T15:59:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop]  
Now that the scum’s plot to down the message board has failed, back to work. I don’t think you being scum is as unlikely as you say. You could easily of taken traits from a fellow scum and then revealed them first.  
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Except that, no scum share those traits.

> [@](#):
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> Furthermore, both the remaining scum have had only 1 trait revealed, so you only would needed to be lucky once, not three times.

That’s an outright lie! The first killer killed twice. The second killer killed twice. The third killer killed three times, including once after **Hazel** was lynched(which means that the third killer must still be alive). The fourth killer killed once.

**Vote sachertorte**

I’m willing to switch to **Hawkeyeop**. I see no point in lynching **faithfool** if she’s going to be mod-killed anyway, and as I believe that she’s Town a vote for her will end the game if I’m right.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1703 "2008-02-20T16:06:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Rysto]  
Except that, no scum share those traits.

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No scum revealed those traits. There is a difference.

[QUOTE=Rysto]

That’s an outright lie! The first killer killed twice. The second killer killed twice. The third killer killed three times, including once after **Hazel** was lynched(which means that the third killer must still be alive). The fourth killer killed once.

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Am I misremembering? I thought the last two killers only revealed once. The person who revealed the Pleo trait revealed other traits? Regardless, I don’t believe Faith is scum, so you could be the most recent killer.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1704 "2008-02-20T16:12:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop]  
No scum revealed those traits. There is a difference.  
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If I had thought to do that, I would have thought to do [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9433722&postcount=1431).

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1705 "2008-02-20T16:16:31Z")

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NETA:

[url=[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9452019&postcount=1529](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9452019&postcount=1529)]And yes, the killer with the Nuclear Bombs trait was the “icepick-weilding rabbit trainer” who killed **Hal** and **story**.

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> Regardless, I don’t believe Faith is scum, so you could be the most recent killer.

You don’t believe that **faith** is scum, but you’re willing to vote for her? If that’s the case, you should be trying to lynch scum toDay and hope that **faithfool** doesn’t get herself mod-killed.

Well, that’s what you’d be doing if you were Town, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1706 "2008-02-20T16:17:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Rysto]  
If I had thought to do that, I would have thought to do [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9433722&postcount=1431).  
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Which doesn’t mean you didn’t do something similar. At any rate, I’m not likely to vote for you, so I’d like to focus on Faith. The way I see it

95% chance Faith is not scum  
Faith doesn’t vote.  
Scums don’t vote for each other.  
We lose.

5% chance Faith is scum  
All three other town members vote for her.  
Town still alive.

So I think we need to go for the 5%

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1707 "2008-02-20T16:19:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Rysto]  
NETA:

[url=[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9452019&postcount=1529](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9452019&postcount=1529)]And yes, the killer with the Nuclear Bombs trait was the “icepick-weilding rabbit trainer” who killed **Hal** and **story**.  
You don’t believe that **faith** is scum, but you’re willing to vote for her? If that’s the case, you should be trying to lynch scum toDay and hope that **faithfool** doesn’t get herself mod-killed.

Well, that’s what you’d be doing if you were Town, anyway.  
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If Faith is town, we can’t lynch scum without her.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1708 "2008-02-20T16:19:33Z")

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NETA:

[url=http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9452019&postcount=1529]And yes, the killer with the Nuclear Bombs trait was the “icepick-weilding rabbit trainer” who killed Hal and story.  
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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1709 "2008-02-20T16:21:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop]  
Which doesn’t mean you didn’t do something similar. At any rate, I’m not likely to vote for you, so I’d like to focus on Faith. The way I see it

95% chance Faith is not scum  
Faith doesn’t vote.  
Scums don’t vote for each other.  
We lose.

5% chance Faith is scum  
All three other town members vote for her.  
Town still alive.

So I think we need to go for the 5%  
[/QUOTE]  
I agree, except I think there’s much more than a 5% chance **faith** is scum.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1710 "2008-02-20T17:04:10Z")

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And we are back.

NAF,

Can we have an extension since our board time has been rather limited today?  
unvote Sach  
vote Faithfool

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1711 "2008-02-20T17:09:00Z")

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I’m not switching my vote. If she doesn’t show up, she gets mod-killed. If she does show up, we have a chance at lynching scum.

There’s no reason to lynch **faithfool** toDay.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1712 "2008-02-20T17:14:18Z")

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Oh, and remember that I’ll soon be leaving, so an extension won’t do us a heck of a lot of good.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1713 "2008-02-20T17:16:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Rysto]  
I’m not switching my vote. If she doesn’t show up, she gets mod-killed. If she does show up, we have a chance at lynching scum.

There’s no reason to lynch **faithfool** toDay.  
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She won’t get modkilled until after the day ends (I’m assuming). So we will lose with a no lynch before she would be modkilled. If we lynch her, we at least have a mathematical chance.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1714 "2008-02-20T17:18:18Z")

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That doesn’t make any sense. The Town doesn’t lose until another townie is night-killed.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1715 "2008-02-20T17:19:28Z")

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NAF, can you clarify? If **faithfool** is scum and is mod-killed, does the Town lose anyway? If yes, then I’ll change my vote to **faith**

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1716 "2008-02-20T17:25:28Z")

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I guess that this is game.

We didn’t deserve to win anyway. ☹

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1717 "2008-02-20T17:35:28Z")

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Rambling…

I’ve been trying to get in off and on. Stupidly, my friend said yesterday that he’d read I had another day. Anyway, from what I’ve briefly read, I’d vote Pleo, if for no other reason than not making any sense. But whoever can respond to me quickest to let me know what I should do since I obviously haven’t been able to read much further along. I’m so sorry for my real life shit getting in the way.

I’ll attempt to remain around a bit.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1718 "2008-02-20T17:37:55Z")

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I told you so, **Hawkeyeop**.

**faith** , I am voting for **sachertorte**. He’s barely participated, and he’s a very good player who has said a couple things that seem very off(he’s said that he doesn’t trust the private dossier traits, for instance, and then gone and formed a theory based on the private dossier traits).

It’s your call. Vote and I’ll probably follow you.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1719 "2008-02-20T17:38:44Z")

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I don’t think it matters. The Day is over.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1720 "2008-02-20T17:40:03Z")

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There is an extension. I don’t know how long yet. But it will be a minimum of 60 minutes. I will post again soon.

I just need to figure out how long the board was down.

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