# You-Solve-It Mafia Game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 11, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636 "2007-12-11T18:21:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 87
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1721 "2008-02-20T17:40:06Z")
Eh, we’ll get our last minute votes in and then **NAF** can work out the mess. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1722 "2008-02-20T17:42:03Z")
[QUOTE=sachertorte] I don’t think it matters. The Day is over. [/QUOTE] unvote Faith Faith, vote for who you want in blue. Pleo isn’t on top of my list, but I’ll vote with you as well. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1723 "2008-02-20T17:42:43Z")
[QUOTE=Rysto] NAF, can you clarify? If **faithfool** is scum and is mod-killed, does the Town lose anyway? If yes, then I’ll change my vote to **faith** [/QUOTE] If faithfool is scum and is mod killed, that leaves the town with one scum and more then one town. It depends, but not necessarily. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1724 "2008-02-20T17:44:08Z")
Okay, since NAF is very generously extending our time, than I will simply remain in place until we decide. Unfortunately, there’s no way I can really honestly catch up, so could I just be pointed to best, quickest arguments? That way I can try to make a somewhat informed decision (although apparently I’ve been all over the place with my voting – least I think that’s what was said). ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1725 "2008-02-20T17:45:05Z")
Faith, If you want my opinion I’d say vote Sach. Naf, I think it is a moot point now, but I believe the question would be if the mod kill would occur before or after the scum had an opportunity to lynch a town member. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1726 "2008-02-20T17:47:07Z")
Nononononono. Don’t follow me! Remember, I’m pretty much clueless and you guys have been able to go along as the game unfolds. That bit from **Pleo** was about all I’ve been able to digest and other than that, I don’t want to spearhead the lynch to vote someone who doesn’t deserve it just because their pitch seems silly to me. So, heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!! ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1727 "2008-02-20T17:47:56Z")
[QUOTE=Hawkeyeop] Faith, If you want my opinion I’d say vote Sach. Naf, I think it is a moot point now, but I believe the question would be if the mod kill would occur before or after the scum had an opportunity to lynch a town member. [/QUOTE] It would happen before. If faith votes before 10:20 pacific time then there won’t be a mod kill. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1728 "2008-02-20T17:51:31Z")
[QUOTE=faithfool] Okay, since NAF is very generously extending our time, than I will simply remain in place until we decide. Unfortunately, there’s no way I can really honestly catch up, so could I just be pointed to best, quickest arguments? That way I can try to make a somewhat informed decision (although apparently I’ve been all over the place with my voting – least I think that’s what was said). [/QUOTE] Don’t worry, I’ve read everything and I’m just as confused. I’m town and I believe you are town, which means, that two of the other players are scum. So for this to work the two of us in addition to the third town member must all vote for the same person. So question is, which two of Rysto, Sach, and Pleo are scum. I believe Sach is one of the scum, and I keep changing my mind on the other two. I’ll try to recap for you why you should believe I’m town and why I believe Sach is scum in the next hour or so. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1729 "2008-02-20T17:54:27Z")
**faith** , if you are Town, read through what everyone else has said, and make your best estimate of who’s scum and not. I think **Hawkeye** is likely Town, and one of **sach** and **Rysto**. If I wasn’t voting for you, I’d vote for either **sach** or **Rysto** , and one of them is your best bet for getting scum. Of course, if you’re scum like I’m guesing you are, then ignore the above. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1730 "2008-02-20T17:56:48Z")
Okay, here is my big post where I argued I am town. [Town Defense](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9479518&postcount=1665) ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1731 "2008-02-20T17:58:12Z")
[Here’s my case against **sachertorte**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9489211&postcount=1681) Read it and believe what you will. There’s not much, but **sachertorte** is too good of a player to make an obvious slip. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1732 "2008-02-20T18:07:27Z")
Here was my first case against Sach. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9464523&postcount=1569](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9464523&postcount=1569) ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1733 "2008-02-20T18:08:34Z")
My analysis posts are [1648](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9473098&postcount=1648) and [1669](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9480921&postcount=1669). As to why I am Town, well, I think over the course of the game it should be obvious by now. 😃 I’ve done my best to look at voting records to ferret out scum. I’ve encouraged discussion as much as possible. I don’t have a perfect record, but that’s how it goes when you don’t have perfect information. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1734 "2008-02-20T18:11:04Z")
**Unvote faithfool** I’m obviously not going to convince anyone else on this ToDay, so I’ll withdraw it for discussion Tomorrow. I’ll decide between \*\*Rysto[/b[ and **sach** for ToDay. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1735 "2008-02-20T18:11:30Z")
10 minutes ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1736 "2008-02-20T18:14:07Z")
Sorry, I never posted firmly that 60 minutes was the total of the extension. But yeah, get your votes back in. I will count up after it all goes down. Anything time stamped before 20 after will count. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1737 "2008-02-20T18:15:06Z")
Well, um, I’m trying to grasp all the posts being brought to my attention. However to do so in a ‘speed round’ setting is a bit difficult. So, I’m going to print out those particular ones to read after this day is over and I’ll vote with the consensus. We should do that now, right? ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1738 "2008-02-20T18:17:01Z")
[QUOTE=faithfool] Well, um, I’m trying to grasp all the posts being brought to my attention. However to do so in a ‘speed round’ setting is a bit difficult. So, I’m going to print out those particular ones to read after this day is over and I’ll vote with the consensus. We should do that now, right? [/QUOTE] Yes, but you do need to vote now. I say vote Sach and hope for the best Vote Sach ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1739 "2008-02-20T18:18:21Z")
I did last review of arguments, it’s time to make a final vote. Again, sorry if this is wrong, but I’m going with **Vote Rysto** **Hawkeye** , if I’m right, we’ll have to go through this again to decide between **sach** and **faith**. I guess I’m not confident enough on either to put a vote on either at this point. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636/1740 "2008-02-20T18:18:39Z")
I’m going to do that indeed. But I’m not leading the way until I understand why I’m choosing who I do. You all have gotten to be here, I haven’t. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=86) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-solve-it-mafia-game/429636.md?page=88)