# You spill oil on our shore!? We give you Palin!!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 16, 2010, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406 "2010-06-16T09:50:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/21 "2010-06-16T15:59:33Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Given the odd capitalization there, I’m not sure if Palin thinks the US and UK were retarded or just fucking.

Maybe fucking retarded?

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**Author:** ![maladroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@maladroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maladroit)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/22 "2010-06-16T18:18:46Z")

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I read somewhere that the main purpose of the meet from the Palin side is a photo op, something to tie her to Ronald Reagan. “See, I’ve met Thatcher, I’m just like Reagan now.”

I also heard that Thatcher’s ‘handlers’ may be her son, may have a cash-based motive to agree to the meeting.

I spend too much time wandering around the internet. I can try to find those cites if anyone really needs them.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/23 "2010-06-16T18:32:35Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I’d love to be a fly on the wall at a Palin / Thatcher meeting…

I am reminded of a bit from ST:TNG where Riker watches a conversation between Data and the commander of the base they were visiting (a notorious motormouth bore). As he put it, “I’m not sure which one to feel sorry for.”

> [@maladroit](#):
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> I read somewhere that the main purpose of the meet from the Palin side is a photo op

Does Photoshop have an automated drool-removal filter? (Or, for that matter, one for removing the effects of Lady Thacher’s sad condition?)

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/24 "2010-06-16T18:49:27Z")

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Please tell me that the queen still has the authority to order beheadings.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/25 "2010-06-16T18:51:11Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> Please tell me that the queen still has the authority to order beheadings.

It’s so \*cute \*how you think severing Palin’s brain from the rest of her body will have any discernable effect on her behavior.

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**Author:** ![vd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b19c9b/32.png) [@vd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vd)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/26 "2010-06-16T19:40:29Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> For those of you who don’t know Paxman, he’s one of the UK’s most ferocious political intverviewers, whose attitude to all political interviews is, reportedly “why is this bastard lying to me?”
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> He’s very very intelligent and well-informed, and\*\* rarely lets a question lie\*\*. He came to fame when he asked Conservative minister Michael Howard “did you threaten to overrule him?” 12 times in a row because it was clear he was prevaricating. Here’s the best of his [refusing to let politicians off the hook](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCo7qbzEX3c) (although he gets pwned by Portillo in the early part of the clip).
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> He would shred Palin, and it would be a joy to watch.

If what I bolded there is true, I don’t think it would actually be very interesting to watch. You would have an entire hour of

Paxman: [first question]  
Palin: [barely related gibberish]  
Paxman: [same question again]  
Palin: [more barely related gibberish]  
Paxman: [same question again]  
Palin: [more barely related gibberish]  
Paxman: [same question again]  
Palin: [more barely related gibberish]  
Paxman: [same question again]  
Palin: [more barely related gibberish]  
Paxman: [same question again]  
Palin: [more barely related gibberish]  
Paxman: [same question again]  
Palin: [more barely related gibberish]  
…

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/27 "2010-06-16T20:33:18Z")

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“You could have reined in BP willingly, but you have elected the way of **PALIN**!”

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/28 "2010-06-16T21:12:30Z")

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“We will fight British Petroleum to the …”

“to the death, I know.”

“No, to the Palin. To the Palin means the first thing you will lose is half your IQ points when you try to make sense of anything she says. The next thing you will lose is your sanity, then the rest of your IQ points and your faith in humanity. To the Palin means we will leave you in anguish, wallowing in freakish misery forever.”

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/29 "2010-06-16T21:29:03Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Given the odd capitalization there, I’m not sure if Palin thinks the US and UK were retarded or just fucking.

Nothing odd about it: it’s a [proper noun](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Relationship). That you (a USian I presume) haven’t heard about it speaks volumes as to how much it actually matters, and how insignificant we actually are on the world stage…

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/30 "2010-06-16T21:30:55Z")

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> [@vd](#):
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> If what I bolded there is true, I don’t think it would actually be very interesting to watch. You would have an entire hour of
> 
> Paxman: [first question]  
> Palin: [barely related gibberish]  
> Paxman: [same question again]  
> Palin: [more barely related gibberish]  
> etc.

If you watch the clip that I linked to, you’ll see that’s pretty much the form with British politicians, though add “evasive” to “barely related”.

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**Author:** ![Satchmo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/satchmo/32/4223_2.png) [@Satchmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satchmo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/31 "2010-06-16T21:34:02Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> “We will fight British Petroleum to the …”
> 
> “to the death, I know.”
> 
> “No, to the Palin. To the Palin means the first thing you will lose is half your IQ points when you try to make sense of anything she says. The next thing you will lose is your sanity, then the rest of your IQ points and your faith in humanity. To the Palin means we will leave you in anguish, wallowing in freakish misery forever.”

Bravo!  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/32 "2010-06-16T21:47:55Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> Nothing odd about it: it’s a [proper noun](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Relationship).

I suspected as much, but you should never let the facts get in the way of a good joke. Especially one at Palin’s expense.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/33 "2010-06-17T00:23:23Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> For those of you who don’t know Paxman, he’s one of the UK’s most ferocious political intverviewers, whose attitude to all political interviews is, reportedly “why is this bastard lying to me?”
> 
> He’s very very intelligent and well-informed, and rarely lets a question lie. He came to fame when he asked Conservative minister Michael Howard “did you threaten to overrule him?” 12 times in a row because it was clear he was prevaricating. Here’s the best of his [refusing to let politicians off the hook](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCo7qbzEX3c) (although he gets pwned by Portillo in the early part of the clip).
> 
> He would shred Palin, and it would be a joy to watch.

It really makes my day to know that politicians are no more honest under a parliamentary system.

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**Author:** ![elelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@elelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelle)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/34 "2010-06-17T02:52:25Z")

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**And, of course,in a perfect world** :

Palin: Your Highness Mrs. Madame Thatcher, it’s such an honor in liberty and freedom to meet you and be free with the liberty of freedom and defenses of our great United Britain nations, which as you know for liberty that it’s all about job creation freedom. And liberty.

Thatcher: What’s that? Oooohhh, Mr. Palin, you are so clever in the drag outfit, most convincing! You Pythons are still the scamps. Delightful!

Palin: Umm, well your Mrs. Highness, I’ve come a long way to visit in the tradition of the greatest American friends of freedom, just like your good friend Ronald Reagan, to forge the bridge across this Great Pond that unites Britain and the USA as if it weren’t even there that you could see from your house like I can with Russia.

Thatcher: Michael? I … It’s that Python gibberish…ah…Reagan? Oh…all you actors are such wonderful fools! Oh, please do the Dead Parrot bit, won’t you, for this old girl? “It’s ceased to be…cracks me right up…” HaaaHaaaaHaaa!!!

Palin: I’m sorry, um, I don’t ,um, I don’t know what…

Thatcher: Right, I get it, You do look a BIT STUNNED, HaaaaaHaaaaHaaaa… Excellent, lad, most fun in years!

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**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/35 "2010-06-17T13:05:36Z")

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> [@elelle](#):
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> **And, of course,in a perfect world** :
> 
> Thatcher: What’s that? Oooohhh, Mr. Palin, you are so clever in the drag outfit, most convincing! You Pythons are still the scamps. Delightful!

Dammit **elelle** , as soon as I read this line all I could hear was Michael Palin’s falsetto!

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-spill-oil-on-our-shore-we-give-you-palin/543406/36 "2010-06-18T00:36:37Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> Nothing odd about it: it’s a [proper noun](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Relationship). That you (a USian I presume) haven’t heard about it speaks volumes as to how much it actually matters, and how insignificant we actually are on the world stage…

No, don’t feel bad! We love Airstrip One, we take you the most for granted in the world! We have to keep our Queen somewhere foreign, you know.

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