# You steal a camera during MY Workshop? Fuck you, you piece of messed-up shit !

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 19, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223 "2010-07-19T14:22:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/301 "2010-07-27T18:16:30Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> As a non drug taker, can somebody please enlighten me on something. If pot doesnt impair driving or cognition in any way, then why do stoners need to compensate for it when driving? What are they slowing down, and driving more carefully for?

The fact its illegal probably has something to do with it 🙂

And the fact they realize they are actually fucked up probably has something to do with it too.

But, hey, they ARE careful you know…

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/302 "2010-07-27T18:20:15Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> > Yes, it _affects_ cognition, but that’s not the same as _impairing_ it. Since it does not impair the ability to perform tasks, I don’t see how it can be said to impair cognition. I would argue that it _enhances_ cognition.
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> As a non drug taker, can somebody please enlighten me on something. If pot doesnt impair driving or cognition in any way, then why do stoners need to compensate for it when driving? What are they slowing down, and driving more carefully for?

I don’t know. I never had to. Paranoia about getting caught, I guess.

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> > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> > Anecodtes are not evidence.The actual empirical data shows that driving stoned does not increase the risk for accidents. There’s no way out of that box. That’s a checkmate for me.
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> > No, I’m saying that hard empirical data trumps anecdotal bullshit. Why the fuck do you think it should be otherwise?
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> Troll

How does either of those quotes make me a troll?

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/303 "2010-07-27T18:31:56Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> No, idiot, I was saying that the “I am the evidence” line was a joke.

You are thick, I’ll give you that. I understand exactly what you are saying. I’m saying I don’t believe you.

Your position in this thread has been you’re right because:

_“I was stoned in 90% of my college classes and got straight A’s.”  
“I am one of those people who never seemed to suffer any impairment.”  
“Pot actually seemed to clear me up and help me concentrate”  
“I drove stoned a billion times. Never hit one school bus.”  
“It never impaired me at all.”  
“Always turned in my work on time. Never cheated or missed a test. I got my A’s on merit, aced tests and wrote good papers. I was baked in high school too that’s why I graduated early.”_

How are any the above statements substantively different from “_I AM the evidence_”? They are not. You made an ass of yourself and you are trying (and failing horribly) to convince everyone you were joking. Using yourself or your experiences as a cite/proof/evidence is SOP for you. You do it in every thread you commandeer.

Unrelated to the above, [here’s an interesting online documentary](http://documentaryheaven.com/cannabis-the-evil-weed/#) on pot.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/304 "2010-07-27T18:42:53Z")

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> [@\*sigh\* Obama is not a "racist" (and neither is Rev. Wright, really)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sigh-obama-is-not-a-racist-and-neither-is-rev-wright-really/443547/267):
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> My post is my cite.

Seems anecdotes are not evidence, unless the anecdotes are from The Great and Powerful Dio.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/305 "2010-07-27T18:57:07Z")

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The studies back me up, so the anecdotes are irrelevant.

It’s funny that I’m expected to take everybody else’s anecdotes as evidence but my own, though.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/306 "2010-07-27T19:22:45Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> As a non drug taker, can somebody please enlighten me on something. If pot doesnt impair driving or cognition in any way, then why do stoners need to compensate for it when driving? What are they slowing down, and driving more carefully for?

To \*enhance \*their _driving_! Duh!

Quick, what’s that over there?!

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/307 "2010-07-27T19:28:09Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> The studies back me up

Here is what the stud(y/ies) say(s), _which no one is arguing about_:  
\*Pot smokers are not at an increased risk for car accidents, and may actually be safer drivers than someone who’s sober

Here is what the studies \*also \*say, _which you’re plugging your ears and going “lalala” to_:  
\*Pot affects your cognition, motor skills, etc. in a negative fashion  
\*Pot smokers are generally aware of this impairment and compensate for it at lower levels of impairment (which may be greater or smaller levels of marijuana _use_, depending on the person)  
\*Pot smokers will generally refrain from potentially dangerous activities, such as operating vehicles, when they are too impaired to do so safely (which again does not necessarily correlate with the \*amount of marijuana \*someone has smoked/injested/etc.)

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**Author:** ![conway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@conway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/conway)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/308 "2010-07-27T20:56:46Z")

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So…the guy stole the camera?

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/309 "2010-07-27T21:57:10Z")

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> [@conway](#):
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> So…the guy stole the camera?

Seeing as the OP ( **Cartooniverse**?) has slunk shamefully into the night, I think the concensus is that he probably didn’t.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/310 "2010-07-27T22:02:41Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> > [@conway](#):
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> > So…the guy stole the camera?
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> Seeing as the OP ( **Cartooniverse**?) has slunk shamefully into the night, I think the concensus is that he probably didn’t.

Thats okay though. Some other pothead stole something right here.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/311 "2010-07-27T22:06:15Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Thats okay though. Some other pothead stole something right here.

\*\*Dio \*\*didn’t attempt to walk off with reasoned debate because he’s a pothead–he did it because he’s a fucking retard.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/312 "2010-07-27T22:37:36Z")

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> [@](#):
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> How does either of those quotes make me a troll?

Your posts are the evidence.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/313 "2010-07-27T22:40:15Z")

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I was quietly hoping Cartooniverse would come back to clear things up, but since he didn’t, I’ll just add to the noise.

I think Dio is talking crazy, contridicting himself and scrambling to scoot goal posts. But I knew “I AM the Evidence” was a joke the second I saw it. In the tradition of “My post is my cite” and “I AM the hall monitor”… I think it was just a joke.

I have been too stoned to make it to the front door from the back of the party. Literally had to stand right there on the back deck for an hour until I came down a bit. Best weed ever. Almost no one was left in the club by the time I met my friends out front. No way would I drive in that condition.

I think it was really wack for Dio to try the ol’ “You all are just sheep that swallowed the whole Reefer Madness Propaganda!ZOMG!!!” Lots of the people disagreeing with you are current or former weed smokers. I have a Legalize It Tshirt. It’s ugly to watch you stoop to that tactic. Stop it.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/314 "2010-07-27T23:17:09Z")

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Well, that’s just it, though. I’m sure he did mean it as a joke in that post, but it’s basically how he was acting in all of his other posts, too. Which is what makes it extra funny.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2010, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/315 "2010-07-27T23:29:30Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> Well, that’s just it, though. I’m sure he did mean it as a joke in that post, but it’s basically how he was acting in all of his other posts, too. Which is what makes it extra funny.

Right. The irony didn’t escape me.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/316 "2010-07-28T02:57:13Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> But I knew “I AM the Evidence” was a joke the second I saw it. In the tradition of “My post is my cite” and “I AM the hall monitor”… I think it was just a joke.

“I AM the motherfucking shore patrol, motherfucker! I AM the motherfucking shore patrol. Now GIVE this man some weed!”

“I don’t even wan–”

“YOU’RE GONNA HAVE SOME FUCKIN’ WEED!”

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/317 "2010-07-28T14:21:17Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> But I knew “I AM the Evidence” was a joke the second I saw it. In the tradition of “My post is my cite” and “I AM the hall monitor”… I think it was just a joke.

But it was only funny because it was _an exact summation of the entirety of his argument_. So it \*was \*a joke, but \*\*Dio \*\*wasn’t in on it.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/318 "2010-07-28T14:27:32Z")

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I am just bummed out because nothing - NOTHING - that I ever say on this message board will ever be as memorable as “I AM the evidence!” That is going down in the Dope Hall of Fame, right there.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/319 "2010-07-28T15:02:56Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> > [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> > But I knew “I AM the Evidence” was a joke the second I saw it. In the tradition of “My post is my cite” and “I AM the hall monitor”… I think it was just a joke.
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> But it was only funny because it was _an exact summation of the entirety of his argument_.

And most, if not all, arguments he’s used for the past couple of years (cf: “My post is my cite” above).

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/320 "2010-07-28T16:34:28Z")

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I still want to know if Cartooniverse ever watched the surveillance tape.

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